Cho-Ku-Nu

wow congratz. ur 10 choku beat 10 catapults. so ur 600 hammer investment beat a 400 hammer investment. Im assume u were also on the attack.

There's a reason why you dont see many players chose china in multiplayer... chokus arent worth it.

Another thing to note is that you get construction WAAAAAY before you get machinery.

Who cares if you can upgrade chokus? In multiplayer good luck sending that merchant out to get the necessary funds to upgrade them... not going to happen.

I should restate what I originally stated. Chokus dont SUCK but they cost too much and come into the game much too late to be REALLY effective. Cats are much cheaper, come earlier and have higher survival rates (assuming u attack and u can always get that if ur good). U can always bring defensive units along for the fight cant you?
 
Oh I almost forgot. Cats also are much better at attacking cities.

Plainly, a stack of cats is much more versatile than a stack of chokus.

And and u state that chokus receive little collat dmg, well cats receive 0 collateral dmg.
 
We'll I'll end your trolling now and say -- Thanks for your input, and good-bye.
 
How am I trolling? Because I disagree with you and back my words in an intellectual manner?
 
CKNs are awesome if you can get them out early enough, but they are quite vulnerable to mounted units. OTOH, you have this aspect covered by going for pikemen with the GE. If you have Ivory, though, I wouldn't even bother with the Pikemen. Just make elephants and spearmen! The only flaw I can see with this strategy is someone beating you to the Oracle. That shouldn't be too much of a problem, though, if you pick the industrious Chineese leader (I forgot which one he is) and chop chop chop. Good strat, man. I think you will win many games with it.

And and u state that chokus receive little collat dmg, well cats receive 0 collateral dmg.

You call this "an intellectual manner"? Are you even speaking English?

And yes, you are trolling. We get it. You don't like the Cho-Ku-Nu. Enough already.
 
Cho-Ku-Nu are pretty good at what they do, the best part few realise is that they can collateral damage catapults, the problem however is the cost and how a big swarm of catapults hitting you first followed by elephants or horse archers (which can pick off the cho one by one if alone) can destroy you if you attack somebody in the open and don't have them upgraded high enough yet or pikemen either.

However they do have the best chance of surviving catapults out of anything but due to how cheap and easy to slave they are they can be overwhelmed if their used offensivly against a good player (3 phalanxe with a general and cats does not make a good army)

Sappov brings some decent points, he just brought them in a pretty loud annoying manner and easy to write off as a child due to use of *u* and caps lock so hard to take him seriously.
 
one more point against CKNs : they do less colateral damage than catapults.
I still would go straight to machinery if I played china, but would build a few (10 or so) catapults to bomb/soften up the defenses before trying to actually win fights with the CKNs.
 
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