City Art + Improvements

[xienwolf]

All mechanics and arguments aside for a moment though: It is funny that the one option which has Sacrafice in the title, and supposedly the worst care for people, is the one option with the highest population growth.

 

[zxcvbnm]

The pop doesn't need so much food as the strong simply take it from the weak, no sharing of anything

 

[Demus]

since only the most productive people get any food at all, they can yield the same production with only half the required citizens (since those citizens will be a LOT more productive than the average ones). Therefor it will only require 1 food (half a citizen) to produce the yield of 1 tile.

 

[zxcvbnm]

Or more accurately the weak don't need food because it's taken from them and they die off

 

[onedreamer]

the fact that half population dies is in contradiction with the highest population growth mentioned by xienwolf. I'd rather say that you don't have to waste half the resources to support the weak (actually, normally a weak/ill person requires even more resources than a strong one). But the end result of the current implementation is double growth speed and generally higher population, which is IMO a wrong result. This civic should instead give a HEALTH bonus, because a society that sacrificies weak elements is healthier and stronger than one which doesn't, not the contrary as the current implementation suggests, with the health malus.

Well, it is hard to claim that a Baby is weak any more than you can claim that it is able to fend for itself, due to the same inability of babies across the board to do much of anything. I mean, what is 50% of 0 anyway?

I did not claim that "weak" babies were killed, but rather malformed and ill, which you can tell very well if you know what you're doing, and since this kind of stuff was decided by elders, I suppose they knew a bit of anatomy and medicine at least ? If you consider it, the way of life of spartans was more natural than ours. Weak falling and strong surviving is a natural process to keep a race overall as strong as possible (hence able to survive, or live, better).

 

[zxcvbnm]

No, it's not the half of the pop who die but the weakest so only those who survive with so little food can live

 

[onedreamer]

ok, so in short someone die and the result is higher speed growth ? (note that you believe that there is more food for the survivors, but the effect is not that, the effect is more population growth). This discussion is going nowhere with this kind of stubborness and we're already way OT.

 

[marioflag]

Hrochland is making some really nice fantasy buildings for dwarves, elves. perhaps some of those building could be implemented in the mod.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=214401