City Build Style

[fret]

Originally posted by Karl_t_great

In fact it migth be possible to build a zero maint empire with Pyramids&Sun Tzu's &Smith's (this I need to try out).

Absolutely, but dont forget you need Adam Smiths as well

Edit - I didnt notice you'd put Smiths in at the end there! , I should clean the grit of my contact lenses

Anyway, I cannot agreen with fret & col on that You could produce more science ICS style (except for early game)
200 cities X lib + Uni = 600 gpt for maint.
Even with some trades this must make a hole in Your scrience budget. The only sci benefit You can get is thru larger total pop prior to sanitation.

I think your missing the point, you only put Libs and Unis in your core cities, you can still get 4 turn techs very easy with 16 (or even less) city's kittted out with the intelligence improvements, the benefit of ICS is that every city gives you at least 1 science point so if you have 200 cities, thats 200 science points without having to build any libs at all! When the population of these cities swells up to 12 most of the people living there become specialists and this adds to your science points as well.

When i play ICS none of the cities outside my core ones get any improvements built in them at all (with the exception of Marketplace and aquaduct), there only role in life is to produce at least 1 science point per city and to give as many happy people as possible somewhere to live.

fret

 

[GerrardCapashen]

If you have 200 cities, the corruption is going to be absolutely insane; you will only produce 1 or 2 shields/commerce in each city. A smaller empire can generate far more than 300 science points each turn with about 25 metropolises with libraries and universities. What map size and difficulty level are you playing on?

 

[fret]

Originally posted by GerrardCapashen
If you have 200 cities, the corruption is going to be absolutely insane; you will only produce 1 or 2 shields/commerce in each city. A smaller empire can generate far more than 300 science points each turn with about 25 metropolises with libraries and universities. What map size and difficulty level are you playing on?

Usually I play Large or Huge map, slaughtering Monarch, or struggling with Emporer.

As I said in previous post, those 200 city's role in life is to do nothing more than provide happy people with somewhere to live, and at least 1 science point per city, all military etc production is done in core cities.

Them cities add to your score in two ways, land area, and happy people .


I used to be a non- believer in ICS but then I studied the HoF games and noticed an interesting and unquestionable pattern emerge - if you want to get the biggest scores on the Large and Huge maps there is only 1 way to go.

I wont preach to anyone how they should play because i'm not really good enough, all i'm saying is, if you want to get big scores, look at and study how a lot of the top HoF scores have been achieved (esp, Aeson Diety and Bamspeedy Regent) and then try to argue with the benefits of ICS.

Just try it, you'll be pleasantly surprised

 

[Chieftess]

I went for the ICS once as India, and was quite surprised at my 300gpt during a middle ages GA.

 

[fret]

Is posting pictures the done thing here?? If not sorry but here's an example -


+365 per turn with 4 turn techs, science rate set to 50% -

Without a golden age and under Monarchy as well! I cant wait to aswitch to Democracy in this game!

 

[NetGear]

My civ looks generally like a hive. I have a dense center (where I started) and rest of the cities are spread out and have the tiles to their own. My palace and FP ususally gets located at the just outside the opposite end of the dense area.

 

[GerrardCapashen]

@fret: You are doing really well in that game; it appears that you will win soon by domination. Pictures are always welcomed as long as they're not too large because every picture takes up space on the forum server. My experiences with ICS have been poor, but maybe that's because I was still building my cities too far apart, usually each city had its own 3x3 square. I will try it this way soon, and see how well it works out. I play on regent myself and am not that great, but maybe it will be better this way than the OCP I currently use, mostly because I avoid war and try to play builder-style myself. Maybe it's time for a change of tactics. Thanks for the picture; it really helped me.