City Name Maps

[Voyelles]

Here is a perfected Dutch map. It is now better synced with the Burgundian and German maps.

 

[AbsintheRed]

Here is a perfected Dutch map. It is now better synced with the Burgundian and German maps.

Thank you, will upload the new maps in a few days!

 

[AbsintheRed]

Checking all the latest changes on the city name maps (and starting to improve the settler and war maps) is going slowly - still, I revised quite a few civs in the last 2 weeks
Anyway, help is always needed:
I would like to have an updated english, spanish, portuguese and cordoban city name map next
Any volunteers?

 

[AbsintheRed]

We also really need to update the Kievian city name maps, if someone is interested...

 

[Mardouro]

Updated Spainish city name map.

I can update the Portuguese next, it's very similar to the spanish, just tell me first if this one works

(Btw, I know it is a closed case, but I really think the Iberian peninsula design should be reviewd…)

 

[AbsintheRed]

Updated Spainish city name map.

I can update the Portuguese next, it's very similar to the spanish, just tell me first if this one works

(Btw, I know it is a closed case, but I really think the Iberian peninsula design should be reviewd…)

Thanks, will check it ASAP
Reworking the Iberian peninsula + North Africa is not a closed case, I very much intended to do it a few months ago
But I decided it doesn't really worth the efforts, as noone really seemed to care, and of course it's perfectly fine gameplay-wise the way it is now
Since that I'm planning to solve this from another direction
Anyway, we can get back on redrawing the area if there is a real need for it

 

[AbsintheRed]

@Mardouro:
The spanish map looks great
Please proceed to the Portuguese one

 

[Voyelles]

Just thought I'd mention I'm keen on posting an improved English map, hopefully I'll find the hour or two necessary this week end. Good work Absinthe!

 

[AbsintheRed]

Just thought I'd mention I'm keen on posting an improved English map, hopefully I'll find the hour or two necessary this week end. Good work Absinthe!

Oh, actually I already updated the English map, at least some parts of it
Along with the Cordoban, Kievan, Hungarian, Austrian and German maps
Also did some minor changes to almost all the other maps too

The English map is far from perfect and it could be extended quite a lot, especially in France
So it will be great if you also look into it
But please wait until I upload a new version of the maps to the first posts
I'm only waiting for Mardouro's new Portugal map

EDIT: actually, why would you have to wait?
Uploaded the map to this post:

 

[Mardouro]

To make the portuguese map can i copy the spanish file, rename it to Portugalciynamemap and edit it? It would be easier for me

 

[AbsintheRed]

To make the portuguese map can i copy the spanish file, rename it to Portugalciynamemap and edit it? It would be easier for me

Yes of course
I always edit the maps you guys post back here
It also doesn't really matter which version (svn or not) are you using, as I only need the Labels from the .CivBeyondSwordWBSave file

 

[Mardouro]

OK so here is the portuguese name map.

Revising the Spanish map that I previously uploaded I found a typo in “Ponta Delgada” in the Azores islands, and a missing label north of Leon, which should be “Oviedo”. Please make sure to correct this small things.

 

[AbsintheRed]

OK so here is the portuguese name map.

Revising the Spanish map that I previously uploaded I found a typo in “Ponta Delgada” in the Azores islands, and a missing label north of Leon, which should be “Oviedo”. Please make sure to correct this small things.

Sure, will correct them right away
Thaks for the Portuguese map, looks good!

 

[AbsintheRed]

So, Christos, here is the latest Byzantine map
Details how to edit it are in the first post of this thread

 

[Morholt]

The Austrian city map is pretty bad in some areas, I think it should be scrapped entirely and the German map extended south instead. Is the Hungarian map reasonably final? In that case I can do that.

 

[Sian]

something i noticed while playing ... on the norse Namemap, there's an error ... the city on Jutlands West coast just south of the Limfjord, is currently named Lemvug, which is incorrect for 2 reasons ... 1, the city throught of is probably Lemvig, and 2, a more historically significent city in that area would be Holstebro

 

[AbsintheRed]

The Austrian city map is pretty bad in some areas, I think it should be scrapped entirely and the German map extended south instead. Is the Hungarian map reasonably final? In that case I can do that.

Actually I'm waiting on Caliom's WB tool, it will make fine-tuning (and comparing) neighboring city name maps much easier.
But if you have time in the meantime, it's great. Austria is far from being final, that's for sure
The hungarian map is in a much better shape ATM, but you can of course change some parts of that map too if it's needed for synchronization

something i noticed while playing ... on the norse Namemap, there's an error ... the city on Jutlands West coast just south of the Limfjord, is currently named Lemvug, which is incorrect for 2 reasons ... 1, the city throught of is probably Lemvig, and 2, a more historically significent city in that area would be Holstebro

IIRC Morholt made the Norse map
If you guys agree on this change, I will do it on my next update

 

[AbsintheRed]

Morholt, probably you don't need this
But here are the Austrian, German and Hungarian city name maps for Beta 13:

 

[Morholt]

Yes, I made the Norse map. For Denmark I used a historical map of the 14th century that I unfortunately do not have access to now. I don't really have any local knowledge so if you're reasonably sure please change it.

 

[Michael Vick]

The new Spanish and Portuguese maps are weird. There's lots of typos and strange locations of cities. For example, A Coruna is "A coruna" in the new map. Santiago de Compostela is gone, not a good thing considering its probably the third holiest city in Christendom. I captured Cordoba's city on the Madrid tile "al-Mudaina" and the new name for that tile is Segovia... I'm not going to delve in any further.

All respect to Madouro but I don't know what this city name map has improved. This new map does not all take into account the tilt of the Iberian peninsula. The old city name map is much, much more accurate and should probably remain unless the actual map of Iberia and North Africa is redone. jessiecat made the Iberia and North Africa city name maps for Portugal, Spain, and Cordoba a while back and they were perfectly accurate and synchronized with each other. To throw it out when no significant change has been made to the terrain of the area is a bit inconsiderate of the effort made by jessiecat, among others. The new city name map is not tilted with the physical map, that's the source of the problem.

I know how tedious and frustrating it can be to make acceptable city name maps, and the effort is wasted oftentimes when the creator of an original map isn't present to discuss his map in light of new suggestions. There should be more communication and review before an old map is scrapped and a new one put in.

AbsinTheRed, you mentioned that not enough people cared about the awkwardness of the Iberian Map. If this case is indeed still open, I would be willing to have a go at redesigning it. I know how I would do it to minimize change to gameplay. I'd take a note of the total amount of tiles West of the Pyrenees, and take note of the specific resources and productivity of each region. I would first post the outline of the peninsula and North Africa first for comments and suggestions.

So much time has been put into this mod over the years that I think the final version deserves a map without such an outstanding flaw.