City Name Ordering

orinsul

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Will City name lists be forced as in Civ4 or radndom as in SMAC or fluid as in the earlier Civs?, only the Civ4 way is terrible as you cant skip one you dont like.
 
Agreed (though I wouldn't go so far as to call it "terrible"). A simple "Skip" option for a city name could be a nice addition though I doubt it will be a priority on any dev's todo list.

Even better would be the ability to scroll left and right (or up and down if you like thinking that way :lol:) through a list of the available names. Possibly even cooler would be if a name was suggested based on some more complex factors like proximity to other cities, latitude on the Earth, nearby geographic features etc., but I have no real want for such a thing. :)
 
Will City name lists be forced as in Civ4 or radndom as in SMAC or fluid as in the earlier Civs?, only the Civ4 way is terrible as you cant skip one you dont like.

Amen to that. I don't want 'The Hague'. It sounds ridiculous. I have Dutch friends who I've demanded get it changed to just Hague, but they insist that irritating me is well worth keeping it as is.
 
Amen to that. I don't want 'The Hague'. It sounds ridiculous. I have Dutch friends who I've demanded get it changed to just Hague, but they insist that irritating me is well worth keeping it as is.

I think The Hague sounds kind of cool. It makes it sound less like an ordinary city and more like a secret society.
 
They should have gone with the Dutch version. There's it's Den Hague.

That would be Den Haag.

Or they could go with the more formal (it unpronounceable)" 's Gravenhage
 
You don't really need a skip button. If the player refuses a name and uses his own, the game should take the hint and stop trying to give cities that name. Or at most, it might present the name twice before abandoning it forever, or at least until the end of the list is reached.
 
I kind of like the often ironic placement / order of cities, especially when playing a Civ I'm familiar with. I completely understand why Washington is the first city for the US as it's the default capital.. but it makes no sense historically... although a prehistoric US Civ doesn't make much sense either.
 
You can rename your cities instead of using the name if offers. That is more flexible than randomizing or skipping through a list.

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I liked the method in smac: First city is always the same, subsequent cities are chosen at random from a list. and you could skip.
 
Yeah, it's something that mildly annoyed me in one of the first times playing civ 4 and I never thought about again but I did notice that it wouldn't let me ignore the old city names. I find it annoying mostly because you can't even just get around it by renaming a city, and that one Zulu city that starts with a lower u, uMgwundulovu I believe, really bothers me.
 
I think an interesting concept would be if the city names were tiered, and I'll give you an example of this.

Say you're America, and after your first capital city you find a new city, then there are a set 'list' of the 10 most influential American cities that the game randomly choses one for you.

i.e. if the first tier was this

Spoiler :

1. New York
2. Boston
3. Chicago
4. Philidelphia
5. Richmond
6. New Orleans
7. Atlanta
8. Los Angelos
9. Seattle
10. Pheonix


then the game would randomly chose one of these 10 city names, and when you find a new city the game would choose a new city from the 9 remaining city names in that tier. After you complete a tier, there would be 2nd and 3rd tier that the game would move on to until it wore those out as well. I think this would keep things random, but wouldn't let small cities like 'Topeka' appear before 'New York'.
 
^ That's a neat idea. It's probably too complex for a feature that would be on the low end of the developer's list of priorities, but I bet it would be possible for a dedicated modder to add that feature in a few weeks.
 
Would be nice to have a "skip" feature, though personally I always have CivilizationInfos.xml open while I'm playing, usually so I can rename my conquered cities and create a homogeneous empire. :)
 
you can rename conquered cities (or any city you own) from inside the game. . .
 
In Civ 4, the problem with renaming cities as you found them is that the name you don't choose gets "stuck" in the list and keeps coming up as the suggested option. For example, when playing the Roman Civ, I would prefer for the capital and first city to be "Roma" and not "Rome." But if I change the name when I found the city, each subsequent city I found comes up with "Rome" as the default option. That is one reason why people are asking for a "skip" option, I think.
 
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