City Names Feedback Thread

[Leoreth]

With the introduction of the new dynamic city names system I want to start this thread as a way to collect feedback.

This thread can be used both to report issues and inaccuracies and to make suggestions for changes. For example:
- error messages related to city renaming
- city names being missing for a tile
- the name for a city being unexpected / incorrect
- an expected name not appearing in the game
- a city name being located on the wrong tile

Unless it's a genuine suggestion, if you report something wrong please let me know what you expected to see instead so I can better understand your feedback and if possible, include it right away. Screenshots can also help to make clear which city you are talking about.

Note that I sometimes deviated from perfect geographical accuracy to allow certain cities to appear in the game when it would be too crowded in their most accurate location. But it doesn't hurt to comment on it regardless. Likewise, it's still okay to report errors in the normal bug report thread, so don't worry about figuring out the context of an error message if you are not sure.

Like I mentioned before, the new city names logic is more procedural and dynamic than the previous one (especially when it comes to independent and barbarian cities), and while I believe that this overall results in a higher quality of names, it can also get things wrong sometimes, so any feedback on this is very useful and welcome. Thanks!

 

[AOS9001]

I'm getting errors like these occasionally when I'm in worldbuilder checking out the city names for each civ. Is this the right thread for those?

 

[Alexius08]

Found the following issues while reading through the city name files:

1. Manila (in the Philippines) is spelled wrong on several rename entries. In English and German, it's supposed to be spelled with only one "l". In Portuguese, it's not supposed to have "lh".
2. Pechenga (on the far northwest corner of Russia) should be renamed as Petsamo in both Swedish and as an independent city.
3. Tallinn should be renamed as either Reval (in Nordic, Swedish, and German) or Revel (pre-industrial Russian/Ukrainian).
4. Alexandrovsk-Sakhalinsky should be named as Otchishi when founded by the Japanese and keep the Ako rename when a city founded on the tile by Russia is captured by Japan.
5. Torneo in Finland should be named as Torneå in Swedish.
6. American renames for cities in the Philippines aren't present at all.
7. Ulaanbaatar can have the alternate name of Niislel Khüree when a non-communist Mongolia moves its capital there in global era onwards.
8. Aktau can be renamed to Shevchenko if it's under Russian/Ukrainian control in global era onwards.
9. Dnipropetrovsk, the communist-era Russia rename for Yekaterinoslav was categorized as Ukrainian. Same goes to Noviy Kodak, the name it had before that. Also, Dnipro should not show up before the digital era.

 

[SOVNARKOM]

In the city name file, Jayapura was renamed Sukarnopura when it belonged to Malays. Considering that Malays clearly never controlled this city, I suspect this may be Java?

 

[Leoreth]

In the city name file, Jayapura was renamed Sukarnopura when it belonged to Malays. Considering that Malays clearly never controlled this city, I suspect this may be Java?

Malays and Java both use each other's languages as their secondary language, so that should not be an issue. I used the Malay language for most names associated with modern Indonesia because to my knowledge that is what the modern Indonesian language descends from.

 

[Leoreth]

American renames for cities in the Philippines aren't present at all.

Which specific names would you expect?

 

[Alexius08]

Which specific names would you expect?

Seems that some are already present (e.g. Baguio, Brooke's Point), but most of the rest in the area aren't ready for cases where either America founds those cities or conquers them from someone other than Spain. Reusing the Spanish names would be fine.

 

[Leoreth]

That's what I was thinking, the names should fall back to Spanish due to their high settler value.

 

[AOS9001]

Portugal is missing some city names in southern Morocco, I noticed the AI settling Coimbras in this area.

 

[Krieger-FS]

I'm getting this error when checking the worldbuilder with the latest update when selecting the option to build cities and move the cursor into the map. It seems slightly different from the one already posted here.

 

[Mcbc_6]

Tiles opened up in the Andes upon European contact seem to lack names, or at least the hill by Tiwanaku (by the silver) does. Inca settled a tile there with the name [^].
Additionally, I converted to Catholicism as the Aztecs and my cities language changed to Spanish. Could an additional check be implemented to look for vassalization?

 

[Leoreth]

Additionally, I converted to Catholicism as the Aztecs and my cities language changed to Spanish. Could an additional check be implemented to look for vassalization?

The current condition is either Catholicism or vassal status.

 

[Zaddy]

Fairly sure that's not Prague...

 

[Leoreth]

Yeah I am looking into this right now, I think the logic is sometimes too restrictive when you are allowed to use another language.

 

[Leoreth]

Yeah actually I think the reason is that this is before the Dutch spawn. Currently the rule is that languages are only used when their civilization has already spawned because it could be hypothetically incorrect - but I think that is better than no name at all.

 

[SultanRedSnake]

Fairly sure that's not Prague...

Looks like somebody got Defenestrated.

 

[AOS9001]

These two popular Dutch colony spots don't have any names in the Dutch name map, it defaults to Maastricht for both of them.

 

[manio curio]

we have bruges as a Roman name, I did some research and we may be able to use the name of the neighboring Aardenburg: Rodanum. I also found this atlas: https://imperium.ahlfeldt.se/

 

[manio curio]

some more Roman names:
Marrakush can be changed to Banasa and Bakoù to Ramana. See atlas for Banasa and this articles for Ramana:

Ramana, Azerbaijan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[manio curio]

A few more things:
1 - Sighisoara was apparently founded by Saxon settlers in the middle ages, I would use Arcobara (also spelled arcobadara) as a name which is the most northeastern castrum in romania I was able to find.
2- Baghdad and Cairo were founded by the Arabs, after the roman collapse, I would suggest the names to stay as Babylon and Memphis