I have played a lot more of Civ V than Civ IV and much prefer Civ V. I can't believe some of the negative comments about V compared to IV. It amuses me to hear a Civ IV player complaining about cartoony graphics. Just look at Civ IV... extremely cartoony!! And Civ IV being a deeper game than Civ V? Do you mean different? I hardly think Civ IV is deeper and harder to play than Civ V. Different mechanics maybe and different emphasis but hardly deeper. Don't kid yourselves. The thing I hate most of about Civ IV is the insane warfare mechanic of huge stacks of armies. Building and keeping large armies hardly costs anything in Civ IV. The tech tree in Civ V is more streamlined than Civ IV but they are actually very similar. Look at Beyond Earth because there is a different tech tree.! The higher levels in Civ IV cheat just as much as Civ V to give a competitive game.