Civ Remastered

[Haig]

Civilization:Revolution remastered amd for Steam.

 

[Patine]

You're missing Civ:CTP That one I'd like to see remastered.

That's not MPS or Firaxis. It's Activision's homage to Sid Meier.

 

[Patine]

What about no civii graphic updates, but maybe 4k resolution like Command and Conquer remastered? What about availability on Steam and the ability to play with more than 7 civs?

More civ slots would great. But the bitmap, static graphics and text file game editing is one of the biggest reasons for the massive prolific modding and custom scenario community and content. Availability on Steam could be a feature, as currently Civ2 (and Civ1) are not available for retail purchase. Miraculously, my CD-ROM has lasted a little more than a quarter of a century without giving up the ghost.

 

[britesparc]

Thinking about it, what I'd really like is a remastered collection of Civs I-IV. They wouldn't really need to do much to update them, perhaps just an increase in resolution and make them playable on modern systems.

Sort of like the C&C and Warcraft remasters, or maybe Rare Replay.

 

[Patine]

Thinking about it, what I'd really like is a remastered collection of Civs I-IV. They wouldn't really need to do much to update them, perhaps just an increase in resolution and make them playable on modern systems.

Sort of like the C&C and Warcraft remasters, or maybe Rare Replay.

Civ2 and Civ3 are playable on modern systems, though with a bit of to-do around it. In my opinion, the level of resolution they have is part of their charm.

 

[Core Imposter]

There are things to do to Civ IV. It has been essentially solved. Sampsa, I think, is the name of a guy who talks about just building wealth and doing momentum rushes. This is his meta. I play with all kinds of rules to weaken and restrict my play. This gives me different experiences. If they were going to remaster it, they need to balance a lot of things out. And who would trust them after their recent performance?

But if it could be done right it would be wonderful.

 

[Kurtbob]

If they were going to remaster it, they need to balance a lot of things out.

I'm curious, what balance changes would need to be taken in your opinion? I'm a casual player, so im pretty content with how the game plays currently.

 

[Kurtbob]

More civ slots would great. But the bitmap, static graphics and text file game editing is one of the biggest reasons for the massive prolific modding and custom scenario community and content. Availability on Steam could be a feature, as currently Civ2 (and Civ1) are not available for retail purchase. Miraculously, my CD-ROM has lasted a little more than a quarter of a century without giving up the ghost.

It would be amazing if remastered, the game could retain its modability.

 

[Core Imposter]

I'm curious, what balance changes would need to be taken in your opinion? I'm a casual player, so im pretty content with how the game plays currently.

Well, the wealth mechanic itself. You have a Civ wide slider to determine how much commerce goes to research, culture, espionage, and cash. And you build buildings that multiple that, like a bank makes more cash and a library makes more research. Obviously, your goal above all else is to reach the end of the research tree first so you want to run the slider at 100% research as much as possible. So, you build research buildings to multiply research, but you put city production to wealth, using hammers to pay the bills. So, you simply don't build economic multiplying buildings as a rule, with some exceptions. You run the research slider either at 100% or 0%.

Now some see that as a feature, , but if the meta wipes out 80% of the stuff you could build there might be a better way.

 

[Core Imposter]

There are a number of game mechanics that would need to be tweaked if they remastered Civ4 but it should not be difficult. Pretty sure they have lost the institutional knowledge needed but it is preserved in the community here. I just don't know if they have the common sense to use it.

I am certainly not holding my breath.

 

[aieeegrunt]

There is ample precident for taking old beloved classics and giving them a remaster so they run smoothy on modern hardware, I think something similar was done with Gears of War recently, and I remember the “Handsome Collection” for Borderlands doing well

Civs 1 to 4 are old enough it can be wonky getting them to run on newer systems, and they are old enough there is literally a generation of gamers who never got to experience them

As far as tweaking with them to stop certain metas HARD FRACKING NO.

This isn’t because I have every expectation Firaxis would ruin them. It’s because this would immediatly piss off all the old timers like me purchasing this to have an easy way to relive them. It also deprives the new users of getting that experience

 

[Core Imposter]

No reason to remaster Civ IV if you aren't going to anything but a paint job. Runs flawlessly on a cheap laptop. Win 11 might break it IDK.

Per Lymon: Amazon Prime game is offering a free GOG.com key for Civilization IV: Complete Edition here. The free game is available through December 3rd.

So, pick up and play the cheesy meta.

 

[Civinator]

Civ 2 ToT (with TOTPP), Civ 3 and Civ 4 run very well on my 64 bit pcs with Win 11 and Win 10.

A good reason for a remaster of Civ 4 could be to replace those, in my eyes, super-ugly graphics of Civ 4 and to add some buttons when starting a game to enable/disable some functions (per example those also super-ugly titan-sized units over a city as it is possible in Civ 3 and those for an epic game not needed unit-promotion trees, which are ruining the idea of giving a simple information about units on a map as it is possible in Civ 1-Civ 3) if wanted.

A remaster of Civ 2 ToT can be nice in regard of the animated units, too. The current animated Civ 2 ToT units are even more ugly than the civ 4 units and additionally have a bad programming error as the units are not showing any defense animations in combat. Only the attacking unit is animated and the defending unit stands without any action on the field until one of those units is dying. Only one movement sound for all kinds of units, as it is in Civ 2, is really completely outdated.

A remaster of Civ 3 could be interesting in regard of adding the missing events option. Otherwise Civ 3 in my eyes is nearly perfect and with C3X there is a mod that adds a lot of additional functions which in my eyes are worth about two additional expansions of Civ 3.

For Civ 1 there exists a CD Version in the Civ Chronicles compilation, but unfortunately this version is only running on 32 bit pcs.

 

[Patine]

A remaster of Civ 2 ToT can be nice in regard of the animated units, too. The current animated Civ 2 ToT units are even more ugly than the civ 4 units and additionally have a bad programming error as the units are not showing any defense animations in combat. Only the attacking unit is animated and the defending unit stands without any action on the field until one of those units is dying. Only one movement sound for all kinds of units, as it is in Civ 2, is really completely outdated.

Almost everyone in the Civ2 Scenario League community selects the, "Disable Unit Animation," and, "Disable Terrain Animation," game options and uses them static. This is also what makes the astounding plethora of custom graphics available in the community possible.

 

[Aquila SPQR]

No reason to remaster Civ IV if you aren't going to anything but a paint job. Runs flawlessly on a cheap laptop. Win 11 might break it IDK.

Per Lymon: Amazon Prime game is offering a free GOG.com key for Civilization IV: Complete Edition here. The free game is available through December 3rd.

So, pick up and play the cheesy meta.

Vanilla Civ IV is boring. Mods unleash its true potential, but the best ones are also very complex and running them on the gigantic map can still give you memory allocation failures.

 

[aieeegrunt]

The point is being able to go onto steam right now and get 1-4 with a click. Not jumping around various random sites for CD keys.

 

[stealth_nsk]

The point is being able to go onto steam right now and get 1-4 with a click. Not jumping around various random sites for CD keys.

3 and 4 are on Steam.

 

[aieeegrunt]

3 and 4 are on Steam.

The point is being able to get 1-4 on Steam with one click.

For the newer generation fhat never experienced them, and isn’t going to root around for CD keys

 

[Civinator]

Almost everyone in the Civ2 Scenario League community selects the, "Disable Unit Animation," and, "Disable Terrain Animation," game options and uses them static. This is also what makes the astounding plethora of custom graphics available in the community possible.

Yes, and unfortunately this is one of the reasons why Civ 2 is dying - another one is only one movement sound for all kind of units (clack, clack). For things you can do today with Civ2 ToT, you don´t need any remaster.

Of course the main problem of Civ 2 is, that it is not available on GoG and steam.

 

[Nikolai II]

Yes, and unfortunately this is one of the reasons why Civ 2 is dying - another one is only one movement sound for all kind of units (clack, clack). For things you can do today with Civ2 ToT, you don´t need any remaster.

Of course the main problem of Civ 2 is, that it is not available on GoG and steam.

Yeah, Civ2 plays perfectly on a Win11 modern PC with the XP64 compatibility patch (available on this site). I play it once or twice a year.