Civ3...endangered?

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In elementary school, we played a game of "football" that involved folding paper into a little triangle, and flicking at a friend, whose hands were formed into a goalpost. By the time junior high arrived, the football games had moved onto a handheld precursor to the Gameboy, where the players were shaped like T's and dashes. In college, we played Euchre. It wasn't until grad school that my Dad got Civilization, and I was hooked.
 
In Junior High and High School is was Risk, Dogfight (WWI combat with little plastic planes on stands) and Spades.

In college I worked at Radio Shack, selling TRS-80s (with a whole 4K of RAM!)

Discovered the board game Civilization in the early 80s, the PC version a few years later.

Nowadays, in Face to Face gaming we play a lot of Settlers of Catan; both my wife and my son enjoy it.

Saw a copy of Merchant of Venus in Half Price Books in Arlington priced at $100. Good board game, sorta geeky (sci-fi planets selling weird things from one race to another; the goal is to make a fast buck and have the coolest space ship), but a lot of fun.
 
I'm the only one who plays Civ3 that I know..

As for Civ4 Graphics=Terrible
I got Civ4 played it then went back to Civ3
Civ4 wastes all my memory and it looks terrible...

And there is not attack and defense:(

Worst of all you have to be a programmer to modify it:(
 
I'm the only one who plays Civ3 that I know..

As for Civ4 Graphics=Terrible
I got Civ4 played it then went back to Civ3
Civ4 wastes all my memory and it looks terrible...

And there is not attack and defense:(

Worst of all you have to be a programmer to modify it:(

I agree, Civ 4 doesn't even run well on my comp. The animations look kinda weird as well.
 
I was very disappointed with Civ 4. Been playing since I first purchased Civ 1 in college, but only finished one or two games of Civ 4. I enjoy the huge sweeping scenarios of Civ 3 such as Imperialism and Imperialism 2, The cold war etc which I downloaded. Civ 4 would never be able to run games on that scale. I think Civ 4 is sort of like playing chess with one of those huge bulky ornate sets. They look good, but the game isn't any better. I fail to see the need of animated mines, windmills etc, I play the game for the mental challenge not whiz bang eye candy. I love the eitor as well. Rgardless of what they claim XML is not easier than the editor. I hope Civ 5 doesn't continue to move away from its roots and deviate into a playstation type of game.

Just my humble opinion.:(
 
It's funny to see someone ask the question: 'Is Civ III endangered?'

Even the fact that this simple question has already led to 4 pages full of answers in the Civ III forum would lead to a simple conclusion: You're kidding!
Most games of the same age as Civ III would be jealous of a game that still generates so much interest after so many years.
I played Civ III intensively for two years, then thought I needed a change, and I haven't touched the game all year (hence my slow answer in this thread). I'm now playing Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic; also an entertaining game, but with a much smaller community than Civ III. Still, even a game like Age of Wonders will keep going as long as there's a small core of people devoted to it, so no worries for Civ III.

Civ III is still HUGE. Just look at the modding section: one guy is presenting a modest new unit and immediately twenty people go 'RHOARRRR!!!' like they've just seen the babe of the century walk past.
Works of art that are good don't die; just look at some earliest movies, comics, literature, whatever; when it's good, it remaines in the pubic conscience.
And yeah; Civ IV would stand less chance of survival than civ III, for reasons already cited.

By the way, Argetnyx (and off topic): I like you a lot better now that you're saying you're young. You've got an avatar that was a propaganda item for nazi Germany, and by having such an avatar you could be seen as someone who likes fascist ideas, but if you're young, then you're probably not too aware of this. In Europe, where I live, nazi symbols are only presented together with the line: 'those guys were really wrong'.
 
It's funny to see someone ask the question: 'Is Civ III endangered?'

Even the fact that this simple question has already led to 4 pages full of answers in the Civ III forum would lead to a simple conclusion: You're kidding!
Most games of the same age as Civ III would be jealous of a game that still generates so much interest after so many years.
I played Civ III intensively for two years, then thought I needed a change, and I haven't touched the game all year (hence my slow answer in this thread). I'm now playing Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic; also an entertaining game, but with a much smaller community than Civ III. Still, even a game like Age of Wonders will keep going as long as there's a small core of people devoted to it, so no worries for Civ III.

Civ III is still HUGE. Just look at the modding section: one guy is presenting a modest new unit and immediately twenty people go 'RHOARRRR!!!' like they've just seen the babe of the century walk past.
Works of art that are good don't die; just look at some earliest movies, comics, literature, whatever; when it's good, it remaines in the pubic conscience.
And yeah; Civ IV would stand less chance of survival than civ III, for reasons already cited.

By the way, Argetnyx (and off topic): I like you a lot better now that you're saying you're young. You've got an avatar that was a propaganda item for nazi Germany, and by having such an avatar you could be seen as someone who likes fascist ideas, but if you're young, then you're probably not too aware of this. In Europe, where I live, nazi symbols are only presented together with the line: 'those guys were really wrong'.

You definitely have a point with your comment, Optional. And with the availability of the Civilization Chronicles, I suspect interest in the earlier games will pick up as well. I know that I will be doing some playing of Civ2.

Also Off-Topic: I did a reprint of the final US Army Ordnance Corps catalogue of German army equipment at the end of WW2. There is about 500 pages, and there was a swastika on every page that we had to take off in order to sell it in Germany. What a headache, and increase in cost.

Argetnyx: Since you are in Rockford, you might want to check out the following website for some classes that I will be teaching in Skokie this summer.

http://centerforgifted.org/project09.htm
 
Off topic...Oh to be young again! Our class had an old crisis,six team of Korean situation,and a lot of Risk... No A&A as class offering! By the way my fav is Kingmaker W/ minis...
 
Off topic...Oh to be young again! Our class had an old crisis,six team of Korean situation,and a lot of Risk... No A&A as class offering! By the way my fav is Kingmaker W/ minis...

We play Kingmaker a lot in class, and it is a favorite. It really forces the kids to try and make alliances, and cooperate. One thing that I have noticed in Kingmaker and other games is that the boy teams try to kill each other, and the girl teams cooperate with each other. Normally, the girl teams clobber the boys.
 
By the way, Argetnyx (and off topic): I like you a lot better now that you're saying you're young. You've got an avatar that was a propaganda item for nazi Germany, and by having such an avatar you could be seen as someone who likes fascist ideas, but if you're young, then you're probably not too aware of this. In Europe, where I live, nazi symbols are only presented together with the line: 'those guys were really wrong'.
Thank you, I am not a facist or a Nazi. In America, especially Rockford, you can say you're almost anything, I've not really thought about that. Many people here think ALL Germans are Nazis, I'm one of the few people (in my school at least) who know that they are wrong, I keep telling them over and over.
 
All I know about Rockford is that it's home to the current world class champions: The Phantom Regiment.
 
Thank you, I am not a facist or a Nazi.
I don't know why someone would have a Waffen SS avatar, since it is either a display of very poor taste or an enormous display of ignorance. (or both)

I'm all for free speech, but I'm against spreading hate - which is what nazi symbols stand for.
If you don't know what the Waffen SS was, you might want to look it up. It's not pretty.
 
Give Argetnyx credit: he knows his stuff, he just doesn't have a European sensitivity about it.
You grew up close to the Anne Frank house, Theov, and your country has been occupied by the nazi's, so it's different for you.
There's just a bit of cultural misunderstanding here, not more than that. And I bet that Argetnyx is not of German origin.
 
I think Optional has a point. One of my friends once went to a Hallowe'en party dressed as Hitler. Don't get me wrong, I don't condone the costume at all, but he pulled it off and many people thought it was funny.

I think if he pulled that stunt in Europe he'd get the tar beat outta him. :P

He would more likely be arrested and jailed, especially in Germany, where any Nazi symbols are illegal. And if he did it at a couple of the wargaming conventions that I attend, he would be quickly and forcibly escorted to the exit and told not to come back. Ditto for anyone in a WW2 German uniform.

Theov, chalk part of it up to the current politically correct view in the US that Intolerance of anything is evil, and not to be tolerated. You are supposed to tolerate any thing and any viewpoint, and if you object, you are either a bigot/racist/fascist/fanatic/fill-in-the-blank. Having had distance relatives who were Jewish and lived near Groningen up to the early 1940s, when they vanished in 1942, I can understand your view. I also work with a lot of Jewish children in the northern Chicago suburbs who are either descendants of Holocaust survivors or who had relatives that were victims of the Holocaust.
 
To answer your question: Many of my ancestors were German, from Bavaria, but I have never even been there. I like the look of the poster and the military (Waffen) part of the SS interests me, but not the other part that most people think of. Many young Germans in WWII wanted to join the Waffen SS because of their high training and good equipment. I am no supporter of the Nazis, their ideals, or their actions. It is the military aspect, not the political and social aspects of Germany in WWII that I am interested in.
 
Give Argetnyx credit: he knows his stuff, he just doesn't have a European sensitivity about it.
You grew up close to the Anne Frank house, Theov, and your country has been occupied by the nazi's, so it's different for you.
There's just a bit of cultural misunderstanding here, not more than that. And I bet that Argetnyx is not of German origin.
Other than that I know what happened, I don't see the difference or misunderstanding.
You can't misunderstand 6 million people killed for no particular reason.

I like the look of the poster and the military (Waffen) part of the SS interests me, but not the other part that most people think of. Many young Germans in WWII wanted to join the Waffen SS because of their high training and good equipment. I am no supporter of the Nazis, their ideals, or their actions. It is the military aspect, not the political and social aspects of Germany in WWII that I am interested in.

You should be a little more interested in the political and social aspect of Nazi Germany - and what it all lead to. I don't think you know.

For the record, I am for free speech and that avatar is ok if it's ok with the rules, but I don't like it because it stands for hate and "hey let's set up death camps, where we can gas 6 million jews, just because they are jew!"
 
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