Civ3edit problem !

[PsychoH13]

I have problems with civ3edit, when I want to modify the General Settings in the rule editor, the modifications won't apply... For example : I open the rule editor on the General settings panel, I put food consumption/citizen on 3, I click OK, I open the panel again and the food consumption is back to 2, I tried with every option of the general settings and it does the same thing although the other parts work fine !

Anyone can help in any way ?

 

[RMeigs]

I also have a problem. I was able to run the editor once and save a randomly generated map. The second time I tried, it would not run at all. Kept quitting as soon as I opened the application. Now, I can save what I think is a map, but cannot use it. Civ says it is corrupted. Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks,

R. Meigs

 

[AlanH]

Which versions of Civ3Edit and Civ3 are you using? Have you put Civ3Edit (the file not the folder) in the Civ3 folder?

 

[firedpottery]

Slight problem I discovered, I deleted my Civ Folder on accident (yikes!) with Civedit in it, I've re-installed Civ3, however I cannot download Civedit. I was wondering if someone could point me to where I can find it, or let me know when bradolivers site is operational. Thanks.

 

[AlanH]

It's here at MacSoft, via the Support tab and Civ3.

 

[firedpottery]

Macsoft points straight to:
http://www.brad-oliver.com:8080/~boliver/Civ3Edit_1321.sit

which is down, as a matter of a fact, versiontracker, apple, and macsoft all point to it. Limewire and IRC channels are out of luck as well.

 

[firedpottery]

It refuses the connection, forgot to add that part, also, one other thing, is it normal for 1.29b2 to run slowly on a mac mini with 512 and nothing running in the background on 10.3.9?

 

[AlanH]

Ah! In that case all I can suggest is you PM me your email address and I can email a copy to you. I don't want to publish it as I have no rights to do so. I've reported the broken link at InsideMacGames. It seems strange that it's still hosted on Brad's server, since he doesn't work on Civ3 any more, and as far as I am aware it's a MacSoft supported product.

I would have thought a Mac mini with 512 MBytes would run Civ3 very nicely. It's a faster G4 than my 1GHz, and should have enough memory. How slowly does it run? Which version are you running? If you are a fan of huge maps then this is a perennial question. All computers run huge maps slowly.

PS I should add that when I run Civ3 on my system it typically shares it Mail, Safari (several windows), BBEdit, Transmit, CocoaMySQL, PathFinder, Photoshop Elements and XCode.

 

[firedpottery]

Standard map size, nothing running in the background, starts off fast, but slows down later, weird, doesn't do that in 1.21g, so something is wrong here, but what? Hmmm, only thing I did different is I used an image from my hard drive instead of the actual CD, it's seen it's better days yah know, and ran 1.29b, that's it really.

 

[AlanH]

Weird indeed. I suggest you go back to your CD, do a clean install from that and then apply the 1.29b2 patch. Don't play any custom scenarios and see how it goes.

 

[RMeigs]

Which versions of Civ3Edit and Civ3 are you using? Have you put Civ3Edit (the file not the folder) in the Civ3 folder?

I'm running Civ3 v1.29b2 and Civ3Edit v1.32.1. The editor is inside the same folder as Civ, but outside the folder it came in, which is also in the same game folder.

 

[AlanH]

Well, Civ3Edit will only work with Civ3 version 1.21g, because MacSoft never released 1.29b2. You have to create maps and rules in a scenario file using 1.21g, then you can run the scenario file in 1.29b2.

 

[Xyth]

As for the problem with changes not 'sticking' in the editor here's my advice:

When you've edited something on one panel always switch to another panel before saving. i.e. if you are editing Units, switch to Citizens and then save. I've noticed the editor will often not save changes made on the last panel opened in the rules editor.

In particular if you are editing a civilization, say the Greeks, when you've finished editing it, switch to the Barbarians, then switch to Citizens, then close, then Save As (I've found this to be more reliable, but I could be imagining it).

I strongly suggest that you switch to the Citizens pane before closing because every now and again the editor will save the last viewed panel with all of it's info BLANK! And this is a real pain if it's a unit, improvement, or civilzation that you've got to redo, but reentering the details for the Laborer isn't too painful.

Also, I've noticed that if you are editing a list such as a civilization's citylist the changes will often not stick unless you retype the entire list. And cutting and pasting into such a list usually won't stick either. I suspect it's because of the different ways that Macs and PCs handle line endings.

Anyway I hope this is helpful. I use the editor more than Civ itself these days and this is what seems to work for me. I have Civ 1.29fb2 and Editor 1.32.1 (with add/delete buttons added).

 

[AlanH]

I have Civ 1.29fb2 and Editor 1.32.1 (with add/delete buttons added).

Are you sure? As far as I know the editor is not compatible with the civ3mod.bic that comes with version 1.29b2. The file formats changed between 1.21g and 1.29b2.

 

[Xyth]

But 1.29bf is backwards compatible. I use my own (continually modified) civ3mod.bic (therefore 1.21g I guess). I think I only ever played one game of the original before I started changing everything...

 

[AlanH]

So you are using the editor with a 1.21g BIC, which is fine. It's the BIC that counts, the Civ3 executable doesn't get involved while you are editing.

I just need to make sure that other forum readers don't think they can run the editor with pure Civ3 1.29. That seems to be the most frequent error.

 

[Xyth]

Sorry, I should have made that clear. Hope I haven't confused anyone.

 

[AlanH]

No problem. More illumination is good. Yours is an interesting approach, but as you say, it probably works best if you never want to play a standard game.

 

[PsychoH13]

No one can give me the help I asked ? I'd like to know if there is a way to make changes on general setting rules enable, because when I try to change a general setting and I push ok, when I come back the changed setting is back to the default value...

Do someone knows how to make general setting rule changes effective ???

 

[Xyth]

This may or may not help but it's something I noticed recently. If I press the return key to close the rules editor window it will more than likely not save my last changes and even delete other entries (as I described above). If I use the mouse to press the 'OK' button then this problem doesn't occur - at least it hasn't in the last couple of weeks since I noticed this.

So my advice: make your changes (pressing the tab key after each entry also seems to help), change the page from general settings to something else (like citizens), use the mouse to press the 'OK' button, do a 'Save As', quit, reload and check.

I just tried this and it worked for me, hopefully it will for you.