Civ3's Golden Age has begun

Statistics do show something, but let's not forget some other factors:
  • The Internet is much more wide-spread these days than how it used to be in 2001
  • At the begininning of Civ3, I am very sure that there were indeed much more views than the average of posts and views we have now over these years
  • Civ4, by simply being number 4 and not number 3 of the series accumulated more of the fame of the previous games, and it is yet to be seen if there will be a drop in views and posts or if they will clearly increase

This extra stuff is all in the advantage of Civ4, especially the 2nd one I listed, because it is normal to have more views and posts at the beginning.
 
Plotinus said:
It might be worth pointing out, also, that the new File Database (set up just a couple of days ago) currently features far more Civ III files than Civ IV ones.

Almost half of them are Aaglo's units... and there's more to come! :lol:
 
I still think that civ3 got ruined by the deliberate non-inclusion of civ2's event files.
They did not include the simplest of options, and one of the most popular ones, for the only possible reason that in this way Sid Meier could still see Civ2 being a live game.
This is a huge dissapointment for me.

I am not sure when/if i will buy civ4; possibly after the last patch/mod for it is completed.

ps: to me civ3 was always a hybrid of civ2 and the imperialism games, so nothing much new had been made for this game.
 
I'd say Civ3 started it's golden age when conquests came out in Oct 2003, but does continue to this day. Actually, the overall viewing at Civ3 C&C forum has dropped from about 110-130 users before Civ4 came out to what is usually 75-100 now, but there's still plenty of people to keep it alive and vibrant. I do think there will be a sharper drop off once Civ4 C&C comes more into its own and when more PCs that can handle Civ4 become affordable.

Back when Civ3 came out a lot of people said Civ3 sucked, was buggy, unmoddable, and too much of a memory hog late in the game and stuck with Civ2. Once the expansions came out and better mods where being made, Civ3 started to look better and now the Civ2 forums are essentially a ghostown now. But, there were fewer users at CFC back then and Civ3 has much more modding material than Civ2, so I think Civ3 will have more staying power.
 
Agreed.

And it's just plain easier to mod Civ III, and the people modding Civ III *may* be too lazy to learn how to mod Civ IV. (Guilty)
 
i think what keeping people form CIV4 is that most computers cant handle it, even though the specs make it seem as if it can. I dont think people hte the game, just that they are unable to play it. LIke Chris said, once cheaper and more affordable computers come out, in whic they support Civ4, there will be a huge decrease of civ3 fans and a huge increase of civ4 fans.
 
Mirc said:
^ Yes, I agree with you, but I observed a strange attitude from the posters from the Civ4 forum: I was really very surprised to find out that A LOT of them hated Civ3, and think Civ4 is much better, and that a lot of them treat Civ3 veterans like primitives. I received some insults while posting in the Civ44 forum just because I mentioned that I use to post more in the Civ3 forums...

If future Civ4 veterans (now they are all noobs! :joke:) will get to rule the civ comunity, not here, because I am sure we won't allow them, but on other forums/websites/real life, Civ3 might dissapear faster than it deserves to.

Ya its get kind rough over there. Ive set off smoke alarms on more then one occacason, just defending our game from their flame. One guy even mischievously deleted then reworded his post after I had keenly rebutted his arrogant original reply, all just to make me apear talkin nonsense to myself!!. :crazyeye: Becareful! There no stangers to unscrupulous tactics overthere. Procede typing with caution :)
 
T.A JONES said:
Ya its get kind rough over there. Ive set off smoke alarms on more then one occacason, just defending our game from their flame. One guy even mischievously deleted then reworded his post after I had keenly rebutted his arrogant original reply, all just to make me apear talkin nonsense to myself!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

This reminded me of the time, three years ago, when i would use similar tactics in the Europa Universalis 2 forums :)
 
It's not a golden age, per se, but we are getting alot of modders today. I have no problem with civ4 modding (they have some pretty cool stuff, like their WH mod and Anno Domini for civ4, :eek: ) but anything you mod in civ4 will look ugly, and take alot of effort. All that Python and crap just to make a low-poly mod seems useless to me.
 
polyphemus said:
i think what keeping people form CIV4 is that most computers cant handle it, even though the specs make it seem as if it can. I dont think people hte the game, just that they are unable to play it. LIke Chris said, once cheaper and more affordable computers come out, in whic they support Civ4, there will be a huge decrease of civ3 fans and a huge increase of civ4 fans.
Good point. It's funny this happened to me with civ3 - my computer wouldn't run it, and that's why I joined the community so late.
 
Maybe, however my computer runs Civ4 just fine. I still dont play it. It looks pretty and I like religion but it wastes far too much effort on stuff like birds flying out of trees and footprint, stuff I dont care about. The eary game just rushes by, and I like ancient times.
But the biggest thing for me is ease of moddability, some great mods and it plays quickly. Civ4 just strikes me as a bit gimmicky; a lot of the fights are out of synch and so on. The effort should have gone on playability.
I still play EU2. I want gameplay, not flashy graphics that too often dont live up to the hype.

I dont HATE Civ4. But I dont play it either. And I couldnt wait for it to come out. I wanted to love it. Not sure if I will ever love it.
 
I have Civ IV, but I don't have time to learn how to mod it (lazy!). I play it, sure, but I like modding better.

And I am working on Civ III mods, cause I won't have to spend time learning how to mod again, and because I am basically continuing a project, instead of going on a new one.
 
I think the Civ 3 Golden Age is long over, like somehweres about 2004. But we're in that late game stage where we control like 3/4 of the map and could destroy the damn french and zulus who are stuck on a cruddy island of mostly tundra in one turn if we wanted to, but we don't want to since we're busy cranking out spaceship parts.
 
Yeah! Alpha Centauri, 'Ere we come :)

Unfortunately, sometimes the endgame may be a bit boring though... But it's lucky to have those zulu's and french as a comic relief - demanding the silliest things... :)
 
"Give us your World Map! Or Else!" "But I gave that to you four turns ago. And I have Nukes so shut up." "Oh. Okay."
 
My problems with civ4, compared to civ3:
Modding is harder, with more files to go through, hense duller.
When you have gone through x files to add a line of change, you barely notice it.
We have almost everything we need here to make a great mod anyway. What's the point in requesting a thousand things that we have here for civ4?
 
Chris85 said:
I'd say Civ3 started it's golden age when conquests came out in Oct 2003, but does continue to this day. Actually, the overall viewing at Civ3 C&C forum has dropped from about 110-130 users before Civ4 came out to what is usually 75-100 now, but there's still plenty of people to keep it alive and vibrant. I do think there will be a sharper drop off once Civ4 C&C comes more into its own and when more PCs that can handle Civ4 become affordable.

Back when Civ3 came out a lot of people said Civ3 sucked, was buggy, unmoddable, and too much of a memory hog late in the game and stuck with Civ2. Once the expansions came out and better mods where being made, Civ3 started to look better and now the Civ2 forums are essentially a ghostown now. But, there were fewer users at CFC back then and Civ3 has much more modding material than Civ2, so I think Civ3 will have more staying power.
Were enjoying a civ3 Renaissance here! not a golden age, like Gold Flash said, that happened a while ago this game has some magor history. this renaissance could inspire a great surge of new masterpieces

NewsFlash we 126 at 12.40!!highest reading taken this early since who knows

Ya staying Power is so huge for Civ3, Mark my words, with the power of mega mods on the horizon, Civ3 will hang withits slow big bro all the way up to Civ5. the last expansion slowed the game even more, {added atthe % od useres whos computer exp slowdowns late stages} Ii
f the next one dosn't speed it up its another dis for all and fuel for 3. We love extra stuff Bigget better games with the CIV name, but when the goods were sold in a box with misleading specs from the begging, things get tricky adding more to a problem package, basicly its arare circumstance thats helped along with mods that extend and excel are game for times to long to estimate
 
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