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Civ4 MTDG Notice

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Multi-Team Demogame' started by Ginger_Ale, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. Ginger_Ale

    Ginger_Ale Lurker Retired Moderator

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    There has been some questions about this so I'll try to address some of them.

    Will there be a Civ4 MTDG? Yeah, RM and I hope so. But as of yet, neither of us have the game. Personally, the game probably won't work for me when I get it because of the bad quality of my video card. RegentMan said he aims to get it in November sometime - I'm not sure how well it will run on his computer.

    It wouldn't be fair to start a Civ4 MTDG right away. Not only do Europeans get the game later, but not everyone will get the game right away! A number of people will wait a while to get the game, perhaps around the holidays or when a patch is released or when they get a better computer. Along with that reason, and the fact that a patch will probably be needed to make it stable, not many people have a running game at this moment, and because the Civ3 MTDG is still in the early stages and we want to focus our efforts on the Civ3 MTDG, we won't be having a Civ4 MTDG for a while - at least not hosted by RM and myself!

    We will stay dedicated to the Civ3 MTDG until further notice ... at the earliest, a Civ4 MTDG would start planning probably in the New Year or later.
     
  2. Black_Hole

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    will there be an multisite game? if so we could just wait for that
     
  3. RegentMan

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    There'll be a Civ IV ISDG, but I'm sure people would still like some friendly forum rivalry. I'm hoping to get Civ IV for my birthday, but I doubt that it'll work for my computer. We shall see.
     
  4. TheDuckOfFlanders

    TheDuckOfFlanders the fish collecter

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    While most of us don't have CivIV yet ,would it be good to start the planning and set up atleast now?
     
  5. Ginger_Ale

    Ginger_Ale Lurker Retired Moderator

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    Well, there's not much we can do yet. RegentMan or I need to have the game first, at least. I would also wait until a stable patch is out and more people get used to the game.
     
  6. RegentMan

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    Well, I do have the game, it's just a matter of getting a working computer (my friend is pretty busy, so :( ). In addition to the above, we have no idea of any exploits that could exist. We'd need to discuss and build a new ruleset.
     
  7. Ginger_Ale

    Ginger_Ale Lurker Retired Moderator

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    Letting you guys know:

    I got the game. :dance: It works fine: the only problems I encounter are the floodplain graphics appearing in the Fog of War, and some blue text. 2 minor bugs...

    So far, I know of no bugs. I'll let you know when I play more. At the earliest I would start considering it January 1st, or when RM gets the game.
     
  8. Provolution

    Provolution Sage of Quatronia

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    I would recommend January 30, in order to get more potential members.
    Besides, some knowledge of the game helps.
     
  9. BCLG100

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    So its the new year now, any plans for a Civ4 MTDG them?
     
  10. Ginger_Ale

    Ginger_Ale Lurker Retired Moderator

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    I think it has always been in the back of our mind and we have always planned on doing one. The question is just when... I think a good time to request forums at least for discussion would be February 1st - then we can maybe do a month, month and a half if needed of discussions, recruiting, whatever, then we can start. This allows us to plan and if a new patch comes out, we can use that too. Anyone have any objections to requesting forums (at least a main forum - probably no team forums yet) on Feb. 1st?
     
  11. BCLG100

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    nope, could we not request them sooner though, so we could possibly have them for february 1st allowing us the full month of planning.
     
  12. ybbor

    ybbor Will not change his avata

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    Shoudl we consider waiting until this game is over? I imagine lots of teams would want to be with thier current teamates, and if we do so a whole lot of issues will arrise. a) displomacy could easily intermingle, i.e. they don't like us there so we aren't going to deal with them here. b)there will be a lot of "encouragement" (read:pressure) to have the members join both teams c) some of the fun of multiplayer will be taken out in dealing with familiar enemies.

    Alternativly we could force people to go to random teams. While I would prefer this method it still raises a lot of issues a)people can't be with their friends b)we may have difficulty saying "well this worked well for us" if we're afraid the [c3c] tema will 'steal' it.

    I might be interested in being an admin for this game btw. and I have [civ4]
     
  13. Black_Hole

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    I agree and also having a second one will cut participation in this one way down, lets wait until this game is over or almost over
     
  14. Ginger_Ale

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    BCLG: Yeah, we can request them sooner probably. I'll see if RM and I can draft something up to send soon.

    ybbor: This game won't end that soon - I'm guessing not until the first expansion for Civ4 is out. Waiting isn't really the best option, especially when there is more demand for Civ4 (even though there are some strong hardcore Civ3ers! Good job guys!). About diplmacy mingling: I doubt it - the teams will be different (at least a bit), the game is a whole different game. I think we can put this one aside when playing a Civ4 one and vice versa. I don't think the teams will be that familiar - we'll certainly get some new faces.

    About random teams - I'd prefer not. If people want to stay with these teams, fine, albeit unfortunate. I'm sure there are people that will want to switch around just for the fun of it and for the experience. We'll most certainly get newcomers to spice things up. Regarding admining, sorry, not at the moment. We'd like to keep it small yet powerful too.

    RegentMan or Rik, any comments?

    edit: Crosspost with Black_Hole. To him: no matter if there is a Civ4 one AND a Civ3 MTDG, there will always be some dedicated Civ3 MTDGers, and I'm grateful for that. We've seen now that even as Civ4 is released and a couple months old, there are still people here. What we have left are people that are here for the game and I don't think we'll see numbers dwindle much further. Adding a Civ4 MTDG might also revive some people here too ...
     
  15. RegentMan

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    February 1st seems good. I agree with Ginger_Ale about participation. I don't believe that it'll drop here simply because we have a Civ IV MTDG too. Although I'd like to see teams mixed up a bit, and the only way I can see that happening is randomly assigning people. This, however, conflicts with the "funness" of the game, as people will want to be with their friends. Perhaps we can come up with a compromise. Increasing the number of teams to five or six could spice things up too, although participation will be key. If it doesn't stay up, then the Civ III MTDG might see more action than the Civ IV.
     
  16. Ginger_Ale

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    That pushes our date back...although I feel the crowd that will play the MTDG are either (a) interested and will be active in both a SP and MP DG or (b) only interested in a MP DG. I don't think that starting a MTDG will detract from the participation of the SPDG...anyway. At the earliest, I would consider bringing it up again on Feb. 15th. :(
     
  18. Whomp

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    I know I'm speaking for myself but with our 20+ active members I doubt too many would want to play on another team. I look forward to playing some Civ4 MTDG.

    Any thought to playing a round of turns on Pitboss, maybe once a week? It's very cool and would make things even more interesting IMO.
     
  19. BCLG100

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    pitboss?????
     
  20. IroquoisPlisken

    IroquoisPlisken Brigadier Idiot

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    http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=152361

    It's still in Beta, and I haven't used it yet, but it sounds like it will be interesting and make the game go by faster, not to mention make it easier to pass on the save.

    I like the sound of more teams, btw. There should always be an even number, though.
     

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