With regards to the luxuries, two cups make one blue citizen teal (0 -> +1), one red citizen blue (-1 -> 0) or one black citizen teal (-2 -> +1), which seems like a programming error. It is known for quite a long time - there is an old thread here about it (https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/the-black-people.30670/) but it seems that the main decription was hosted on Apolyton site, which is not working anymore...
I always thought this was a feature. It means that on deity (possibly emperor) with a large civ, it is beneficial to employ some luxuries, even if your government type is despotism or monarchy. It does make larger civs somewhat easier to control, if your strategy is to run a high luxury rate anyway.
I came to acceptance with that as well but the fact that moving away a military unit under monarchy may make citizens happier makes me believe that it is a bug. I would put it in the same category as the aggressive AIs (obvious bugs, but after 20+ years we got used to them).
I sometimes still go for a good Civ2 game so many years after..! Sure, but still the interaction happens without Hanging Gardens. E.g. if you have 2 luxuries and red citizen (turned by luxuries to blue) and you settle another city, pushing over the limit and turning the base citizen from red to black, the citizen becomes happier (teal instead of blue).
No. As with number of cities limitation the limit number is tied to many memory variables and depends on their size. For example, known technologies are stored in array of bytes which are 8 bit wide. So every bit represents one civ. To extend it to 16 civs you will need array of words (two bytes). But doing this in existing compiled exe is very difficult. I don't say it is completely impossible, but it will need a lot of effort and will bring so many risks of new bugs. Just imagine how adventurous it is to make such changes having the complete source code of the game, and without it (like in my case) it is even more risky.
Thank you for your accurate answer
Yes. If you are using luxuries anyway, having more black hat citizens is an improvement. And you get them by founding more cities. That doesn't mean that it is a "bug" that 2 luxuries make them happy, just that having more cities isn't always strictly worse for happiness. Perhaps one of the skills of Deity level is recognising this, and planning accordingly.
The 8th civ is the barbarians. They need some of the 'features' of a full fledged civ, but not others.
Are you seriously using the Chewbacca Defense to declare that the "2 luxuries make angry citizen happy" bug isn't a bug because you happen to like it?
No, I'm arguing that "2 luxuries makes angry citizen happy" looks awfully deliberate, and that the particularly "buggy" aspects of it are consistent with the application of that very rule. To believe that this is a bug would involve believing that the developers never opened a city window with a black hat and 2 luxuries. This is something where the effects are immediate and obvious. It's not at all like the angry AI, which snuck in only for MGE, and which you'd have to spend a lot of time playtesting to realise is not functioning as before. It's also not like the issue where disbanding a ship at sea disbands all units on the tile, even other ships, or the bug where the pikeman flag checks the current HP of the attacking unit, not the maximum HP.
The bug when removing water units is fixed quite easily, you need to replace push 0 with push 1 at 005B5FAA, apparently the idea of removing transport with units on board was not implemented quite correctly
Fixes the pikemen flag, which checked the actual movement rate after damage instead of the movement rate defined on the unit type.I did a little research on the algorithm and described it in a separate thread. We can discuss the topic of happiness there. The considered algorithm clarifies the reasons for the appearance of the mentioned behavior.
That comment made my day XD
With all my love to Civ2 it seems it was not tested nearly enough and the standard for games has changed very much since then (the time required to release a game changed too...).
Wow, great job! If I have some free time I will try to dig into it.
I agree that Civ 2 has a number of bugs and oversights. However, the happiness mechanic is important enough that a specific calculation chart was included for every city, in order to explain to the player exactly how the computation is made. This isn't a bug that is hidden behind some randomness (MGE Attitude), or only occurs in specific locations (double tile working over dateline), or requires somewhat unusual circumstances to trigger (ship disband bug). This is something that is trivially noticeable to anyone who asks the question "do the angry citizens work as we intend them to?"
Have you seen the algorithm provided by FoxAhead? It is anything but simple. Numerous errors in descriptions provided with the game ensure me that the production of Civ2 was chaotic and the product is filled with bugs which we learned to love. E.g. power of howitzer is ridiculous because they were playing with HP and firepower (and I guess never properly tested the unit). Costs of bribing a city is laughable and just a fraction of the cost of bribing units garrisoned in that very city (even though we would need to de-stack those units). Courthouse in Communism does nothing because the gov probably had some corruption during testing. Etc., etc. Still, the game is great but if we can patch some issues (especially as obvious as the happiness quirk) why not?
Really? You have discontent people who will strike and they are not convinced but the very most radical group jumps from angry to happy?
I always thought it was an in-joke that the judiciary was captive to the ruling party.
