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Discussion in 'Civ4 - CIV Gold' started by Wyz_sub10, Sep 27, 2006.

  1. Duneflower

    Duneflower Chieftain

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    I'd like to see Cornish and Gallic civs since we already have Wales, Ireland, and Scotland; but I just don't know enough about them to provide much in the way of suggestions. However, [url link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Cornwall]here's Wiki's take on the Kingdom of Cornwall[/url], and actually I think it might work pretty well to just rename the official Celtic civ as Gaul, along with possibly moving Boudica (even though it's not entirely accurate) to Wales and adding Vercingetorix.
     
  2. ASIMOV123

    ASIMOV123 Chieftain

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    sorry for double post, at first I posted this to the "To Do" thread, but here it is to the correct place:

    Greetings from Finland. I played CIV Gold and the upgrade and it was GREAT JOB! just some things I'd wish/like to see:

    BURMA/MYANMAR:
    The Mon (that is what the people was called in the ancient times, a great south-east asian power that was constantly at war with Siam(Thai), Lao(Laos) Khmer(Cambodia) and even the Vietnamese peoples.

    People/Nation: The Mon (Burmese, Burma)
    Bagan (Ancient capital with HUNDREDS of temples, a true wonder of the world)
    Mandalay (A religious city full of temples and monks)
    Rangoon (newer capital, later called Yangon with the new military Junta, now the capital has moved to Naypyidaw, to the middle of the jungle. Rangoon is where the Shwedagon Paya was built!!!)
    Sittwe
    Pathein
    Pago
    Dawei
    Magwe
    Loikaw
    Taunggyi
    Sagaing
    Hakha
    Myitkyina
    Mawlamyine
    Hpa-an

    Unique unit: war elephant of some sorts
    Unique building: COlosseum to Paya, a sort of temple. +culture 3 +health 2 etc etc

    "The Mon people are thought to be the earliest group to migrate into the lower Ayeyarwady valley, and by the mid-900s BC were dominant in southern Burma.[29] The Mons became one of the first in South East Asia to embrace Theravada Buddhism."

    You can use wikipedia to copy paste some information or ask me to write something if you are going to put this IMPORTANT civilization in..

    LAO, LAOS:

    Lao
    Cities:
    Vientiane
    Louangphrabang
    Louang Namtha
    Xam Nua
    Ban Nape
    Muang Khammouan
    Savannakhet
    Salawan
    Pakxe
    Xiangkhoan
    Phongsali

    ESTONIA

    Estonians

    Tallinn (home of many knightly orders, danish or otherwise, one of the most fortified cities of medieval europe/baltics, capital city of Estonia)
    Tartu
    Narva
    Kohtla-Järve
    Pärnu
    Viljandi
    Rakvere
    SIllamäe
    Maardu
    Kuressaare

    Due to Tallinn location, this civilization was of outmost importance to medieval Europe and still exists today. Would be a shame to omit it from the GOld mod..

    Special building could be improved fortifications, castle etc or a church. Providing defense to cities.
    SPecial unit medieval infantry etc.

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    The Swiss???
    you are missing Switzerland :p
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    Some more ideas, although not really civs, but neither are many of the things already inside the mod:

    The Templars (Knights Templar, a medieval "international" european knightly order that was richer than any country in the world at it's time. Vast lands, armies and many many castles and fortifications from Spain, mid europe to Holy Land. Took part in the Re-Conquista etc etc until banished by traitorous popes and kings. Check WIKIPEDIA for 1st and last Grand Master to put as leader. KT was directly under Pope of Rome, but the Grand Master had the final say.

    Starting with founder Hugues de Payens.
    The last Grand Master was Jacques de Molay, burned at the stake in Paris in 1314 by order of King Philip IV.

    cities = major fortifications
    unit = Templar Knight (indeed Templar Knights were so feared by the saracens that many times they were executed en-masse after battle if defeated, even if other prisoners would be let go under some circumstances. No templar was let to live.)
    Building = Castle/walls coin revenue, culture, defense

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    VATICAN ?

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    Also I would like if someone took the trouble to make a better Moztezuma I, warrior priest god king of the Aztec. Preferably with the huge green feathery headgear, he was a king and a noble, not a savage as firaxis put him. Industrious / Financial

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    About the Finnish / Finland civilization in the game, it is great but you could add one leader: (C.G.E.) Mannerheim / Carl Gustaf (Emil) MANNERHEIM. Industrious / Protective or Industrious / Aggressive. Otherwise the civ is great, just that it has only modern cities... You could add Tavastia and Olavinlinna.

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    Thank you so much, send private messages if you need more information / are unable to find something from WIKIPEDIA.org..

    Greatly appreciated.

    Simo / Finland
     
  3. Duneflower

    Duneflower Chieftain

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    For the record, the Montezuma in CIV is this guy, not Moctezuma I.
     
  4. Lone Wolf

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    How about the Tamils and the Cantonese? Both would be very useful in balancing the Earth maps.
     
  5. nzk13

    nzk13 Some Jew-boy on Noble.

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    What about King Solomon for Israelis? I mean he was one of the more famous kings:king: and he was "The Wisest Man of All Time", so it really would make sense, u know. And why wasn't King David given Aggresive trait?:mad: Any1 who knows anything about his history would know that his reign was filled with wars. He couldn't even build the Temple 'Because his hand were too stained with warfare'. So i think solomon should be given Spiritual and Financial traits. And do it for the vanilla version.:goodjob:
     
  6. kensington888

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    what about a northern ireland.
     
  7. Shadow Wolf

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    I think that Anglo-Saxons should be added. Their civ has already been made for BtS.
     
  8. 5t0rmm4k3r

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    Slavs!

    -Slavic Empire, Eastern Europe during the Dark Ages to Early Mid Ages (After that they began to split up culturally)
    -Leaders- Wenceslaus I of Bohemia (Better known as Good King Wencelas) Spiritual and Protective? He defeated a few rebellions?
    - Mieszko I, Spiritual/Expansive perhaps, he is considered the creator of the Polish state and also introduced Christianity to Poland

    - UU, well maybe Raiding Cavalry, as the Slavs were quite effective raiders of the Roman Empire, specifically the East, but the Bulgars and Serbs managed to conquer a lot of the Balkans so perhaps they have a unit that could be used? Raiding Cavalry would replace Horse Archer with extra move and attack

    -For the UB I was thinking along the lines of a River Port, replacing harbour, could be built on river towns as well as coastal, the Slavs were great Traders in Russia (before the Vikings conquered them!)
    or perhaps they could have the Viking Trading Post and give the Vikings a Longhouse?

    -Cities- Novgorod
    - Warsaw
    - Cracow
    - Beograd
    - Sofia
    - Burgas
    - Varna
    - Stara Zagora
    - Pleven
    - Dryanovo


    And I would like to suggest merging the Maori with the Polynesians
    I am from NZ and the Maori are pretty much the same as the Polynesians culturally
    Perhaps add Maui as a leader for them too?


    Feel free to comment on either please!:goodjob:

    Edit: I also agree with NZK, Solomon should really be in for Israel and perhaps David Ben-Gurion? He was the first prime minister of Israel and was quite influential. He was also a Zionist and was very aggresive in expanding Israels borders from what I remember so perhaps Aggressive/Philosophical?
     
  9. TheLastOne36

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    Slavs doesn't make sense.

    Mieszko was a Polish hero, not a proto-Polish/Slavic hero. Besides, at that time, the slavs have diversified so much that at different parts of the tree, it was farther apart than the Franks and Scandinavians.

    If you go through with the idea, than you will have to choose one of the numerous ancient Polish (if you can call them that) leaders, that are all simply legends from the times of the Polish city states.

    But I completely disagree with the idea though. We have no clue how distant or close the slavic tribes were. It could be like making a civ called Germanic's or Mongoloids or something.

    I say, it is a better idea to put most of pre 1000's slavic history as Poland, Bohemia and Hungary, We can also add Novgorad, Muscovy and the Kievan Rus, to reflect early eastern Slavic history as Russia doesn't as well.
     
  10. 5t0rmm4k3r

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    Hmmm... I suppose so...

    I was just going for the idea that the Slavs were a dominant force in Eastern Europe for a long time...

    I think you could still keep Wenceslaus as a leader if you made them as he was the "Apostle to the Slavs" So perhaps another leader like Symeon of Bulgaria or someone like that? and th Slavs were very close culturally when they first arrived in Europe and in the Early Mid Ages so perhaps a civ from that time? Otherwise I'm OK with your idea! But with the Viking UB seriously, change to longhouse? I think it more suits the Vikings aggressive nature, it was more the people they conqueredthat were traders...

    Also,

    Francia/Frankia? Frankish Empire, Franks

    Leaders- Clovis Aggressive and Spiritual
    and perhaps Charlemagne in the non Bts versions? I think he was more Frankish than HRE

    UU- Thats an easy one! Paladin Replace Knight, stronger attack?
    or perhaps the Fransisca Heerban? These Throwing Axemen were quite prominent in early Frankish History?

    UB- Thats a bit harder, perhaps a Gothic Cathedral of some kind? Maybe others can think of a better idea?

    Cities, Aachen
    Tournai
    Cambrai
    Soissons
    Rennes
    Nantes
    Tours
    Herstal
    Le Mans
    Orleans
    Poitiers

    PS Hungary was Magyars not Slavs and I didn't mean to offend anyone sorry!:(

    Perhaps you could have also the Bulgars and Serbs as a pre-1000 Slav civ too

    Also Tamerlanre or Ogidei as Mongol Leaders and William I as an English or perhaps a Norman leader?

    OK that all from me!
     
  11. TheLastOne36

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    Serbia and Bulgaria are already in, which is why I didn't comment. Magyars are not ethnically slavic, but they are Western Slavic in culture and might as well be called slavs.

    I do not want to see some unified Slavic empire in the game. It would be as stupid as Native America, or Germanics, or Africans or something. But I don't play CIVGold, I use it more as a modding tool so hehe. :p (I can not play with that many civs, seems to unrealistic.)
     
  12. 5t0rmm4k3r

    5t0rmm4k3r Chieftain

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    Yeah Okay, I see your point!:) I'll give up then! :lol:

    I guess that was just a vestage of my Civ3 games with not enough space for all those civs! And I agree bout the too many thing! Myself I don't really like the idea of the modern ones like Brazil, Aussie and NZ (even though thats me home!) I reckon it kinda ruins the feel playing against Sumeria or something and having Australia come up... No offence jntended to the creators though! Keep up the good work!:cool:

    What about my leaders ideas? Any ideas? I realize Tamerlane is probably for the Timurids no?

    Also perhaps the Sassanids? The normal Persians seem to be focused on the Achemaenids?

    Sassanid Empire

    Leaders- Khosrau II Emperor when the Empire was at it's height, conquered much of the ER Empire
    Prob Imperialistic and Expansive?
    Ardashir I Founder of the Sassanid Empire and defeated the Parthians also reorganised the Empire establishing a entral government and establishing state sponsorship of Zoroastrianism
    So Organised/Aggressive or maybe Organised/Spritual?

    UU- Persian Cataphract? or maybe Clibanarii? Would replace Horse Archer or Knight?

    UB- ? Perhaps someone could suggest one?

    Cities- Ctesiphon but don't know any others... Anyone know any?

    Perhaps they would be too close to the Persians but the Parthians are in so who know? If not perhaps one or two Sassanid Leaders for the Persians?
     
  13. 5t0rmm4k3r

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    Sorry bout the double post but,

    Since NZ is in then perhaps you should consider David Lange as a leader? And for the UU perhaps consider the ANZAC as a unit? I realise its also Australian but I think it could work quite well for us kiwis as I think IMO it would better suit us anyway!;) Perhaps something like the Diggers could work too or maybe like an Aid Worker or something? We do a lot of work helping the Pacific nations. For ANZAC either a Rifleman or Infantry replacement. For the UB I agree with the Nature Reserve idea, or maybe a Dairy Farm? A Wind Farm could also work.

    Perhaps the Crimean Khanate could be a civ? I wouldn't mind seeing Barbarossa for the HRE. Perhaps El Cid for Spain or Trajan or Constantine for Rome.
     
  14. TheLastOne36

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    Why don't we expand into Iberia?

    We can have:

    Aragon
    Catalonia
    Basque (if not included already)
    Granada
    Galicia
    Leon
    Navarra
    Andalucia
    and perhaps a Separate Castille.
     
  15. 5t0rmm4k3r

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    Hmm that sounds like good idea, but perhaps Leon should be Castille-Leon because they were united for most of their existence. Though Leon may work as a separate civ because Castille was quite similar to Vanilla Spain
     
  16. Wyz_sub10

    Wyz_sub10 CIV Gold - Project Lead

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    Hi everyone,

    Sorry for my absence. Lot of good ideas there and I can see the Anglo-Saxons being added at some point. Not sure about another Middle Eastern power as we have plenty of those now. Not out of the question, though.

    Empires from some areas can be tricky because of the way Firaxis originally grouped Spain, France, India, Japan and China, etc. Of course, that's not a stopper - just a consideration.
     
  17. TheLastOne36

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    We can say that those civs refer to the modern civilization - except with ancient leaders. :p
     
  18. 5t0rmm4k3r

    5t0rmm4k3r Chieftain

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    If you want to put the Caribs in then you could maybe use some ideas from Civ Army's Caribs from civ 3

    Leader- Jaureybo
    UU- Kalipuna
    UB- ?
    Cities- Karie
    Tarquba bay
    Yarra
    Airpo
    Charuma
    Tacarib bay
    Guanapo
    Makeripe
    Talparo
    Guatoapajaro
    Siparia
    Palmiste
    Aruaca
    Carapanchima
    Guayaguayare
    Matelot
    Irois
    Caroni
    Tabaquite
    Paria
    Oropuche
    Turure
    Navet
    Maruga
    Tacarigua
    Cuesa
    Guatauro point
    Mayaro
    Igneri
    Vega de Tani
    Hayuya
    Utuado
    Bakairi
    Nahuquas
    Kalipuna
    Yaio
    Nepuyo
    Chaima
    Warao,
    Carinepogoto
    Garini
    Cassava
    Maize
    Cacao
    Tobacco
    Fauna
    Manicou
    Agouti

    'Course I expect you would have to ask him first but thats just my suggestion...
     
  19. CheeseWalrus

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    I would like to see either Baden or Alsace. :)
    I will probably post some details tomorrow afternoon.
     
  20. Duuk

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    Quebec!

    Vive le Quebec!

    Quebec City
    Montreal
    Gaitineau
    Sherbrooke
    Saguenay
    Trois-Rivières
    Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu
    Riviere-du-Loop (moved up in importance due to Timeline-191 ie Turtledove)
    Drummondville
    Grandby
    Shawinigan
    Saint-Hyacinthe
    Victoriaville
    Sorel-Tracy
    Rimouski
    Joliette
    Rouyn-Noranda
    Salaberry-de-Valleyfield
    Alma
    Val-d'Or
    Saint-Georges

    Leaders: Jacques Cartier (EXP, FIN) - Pierre Trudeau (ORG - CHR)

    UB: Hunting Lodge (Replaces Granary. +1 :) from fur)
    UU: Fur Trapper (Replaces Musket, Starts with Woodsman I)
     

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