cMM2 - STRANDED (easy level, tough map)
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sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
I took a look at the save, it looks like a fun one. Can't wait for my turn
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
Who's turn is it? I thought it was still Carlos's, is it mine???????
Sabo, Carlos just played, it's all yours. Make sure to read the last few pages of posts so you understand the difficulty of the situation. Please post your thoughts before you start so everyone has a chance to yell "nooooooooooo" 
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
got it... (ten characters)
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
danz said:Sabo, Carlos just played, it's all yours. Make sure to read the last few pages of posts so you understand the difficulty of the situation. Please post your thoughts before you start so everyone has a chance to yell "nooooooooooo"
Don't worry Danz, I will study it in depth.
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
Ok questions I have:
We are at peace with everyone, I read about rumblings about starting the war again with Hittites (by getting them to declare of course) or a war against carthage?? What's the concensus? Also, would there be anything wrong with trying to take out Greece other than the fact they are polite with us? We currently have no deals with them and they have Spices, Furs, Saltpeter, and Coal.
If we can get enough ships with bombard capability to permanently hang around the fortress city, OR if we can get some cannon up there I believe it should be safe even if someone took out our cathage buffer city but cutting the road to our FC.
Also why are we going for Ironclads instead of bee-lining to replaceable parts? Once we get replacable parts we could hold off and/or attack anyone with success with Arty and infantry..
Let me know guys...
We are at peace with everyone, I read about rumblings about starting the war again with Hittites (by getting them to declare of course) or a war against carthage?? What's the concensus? Also, would there be anything wrong with trying to take out Greece other than the fact they are polite with us? We currently have no deals with them and they have Spices, Furs, Saltpeter, and Coal.
If we can get enough ships with bombard capability to permanently hang around the fortress city, OR if we can get some cannon up there I believe it should be safe even if someone took out our cathage buffer city but cutting the road to our FC.
Also why are we going for Ironclads instead of bee-lining to replaceable parts? Once we get replacable parts we could hold off and/or attack anyone with success with Arty and infantry..
Let me know guys...
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
Maybe so, I forgot to look at our spending distribution... sorry carlos.. 
What do you think we should do, peace for a while or go to war with one of them?
What do you think we should do, peace for a while or go to war with one of them?
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
Wish me luck... BTW nice playing Carlos!!
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
1) Sumer Cav > Cav, Erich Cannon > Cannon , Umma switched Cav to Galleon
Everything is MMed pretty decent, Good playing Carlos!!
only made one change in Ur to max production.
2) Agade Cannon > Cannon , Isin Cannon to Aquaduct we can work 3 more sea tiles there, 5 turns to complete ( I hope we have enough $$ to upgrade all these cannons..
3) Kish Rifle > Rifle, Bad-tibira Cav > Cav, Took Instrialation from Hittites, the best anyone will give us for a tech is Portugal at 4 gpt and 50 gold and WM. I said Naaaahhhh! Im trying to get some rifles over to our FC, well need them with the cavs over there if we are going to be able to mount anything like an attack on someone. Our trade embargo lifted but still cant get any luxuries from anyone
We have now gone from 10 years to 5 years per turn.
4) Ur Rifle > Rifle, Lagash Cav > Cav, Umma Galleon to Factory, we just lost our one luxurie and horses.. bought horses and spices back from India at the bargain basement deal of just 440 gold. , we are starting to see something that resembles a military force, my hats off to Carlos who had the discipline to hold off building infrastructure and concentrate on an Army, (which is something I have a hard time doing) God I want some Cathedrals bad!!!!
5) Sumer Cav > Cav, Erich Cannon > Cannon, only 1100 more Gold to go for a carefull steal from Greece, we could get Communism or Fascism. I loaded a fleet of two frigates and two Galleons full of 4 cannon and 4 rifles and off the FC we go!
6) Agade Cannon > Barracks, Loaded up another fleet of two galleons and 1 frigate full of 6 Cavs, 1 Rifle, 1 Cannon, and were off to see the Wizard
7) Ur Rifle > Rifle, Isin Aquaduct > Cav, Lagash Cav > Cav, The Hittites have Electricity normally I would go for this next then straight to replaceable parts, sure we may not have any rubber but were probably advanced enough to trade for some.
I'll take a break here and post some screenies for any feedback anyone wants to give me
Everything is MMed pretty decent, Good playing Carlos!!
only made one change in Ur to max production.2) Agade Cannon > Cannon , Isin Cannon to Aquaduct we can work 3 more sea tiles there, 5 turns to complete ( I hope we have enough $$ to upgrade all these cannons..
3) Kish Rifle > Rifle, Bad-tibira Cav > Cav, Took Instrialation from Hittites, the best anyone will give us for a tech is Portugal at 4 gpt and 50 gold and WM. I said Naaaahhhh! Im trying to get some rifles over to our FC, well need them with the cavs over there if we are going to be able to mount anything like an attack on someone. Our trade embargo lifted but still cant get any luxuries from anyone
We have now gone from 10 years to 5 years per turn.
4) Ur Rifle > Rifle, Lagash Cav > Cav, Umma Galleon to Factory, we just lost our one luxurie and horses.. bought horses and spices back from India at the bargain basement deal of just 440 gold.
, we are starting to see something that resembles a military force, my hats off to Carlos who had the discipline to hold off building infrastructure and concentrate on an Army, (which is something I have a hard time doing) God I want some Cathedrals bad!!!! 5) Sumer Cav > Cav, Erich Cannon > Cannon, only 1100 more Gold to go for a carefull steal from Greece, we could get Communism or Fascism. I loaded a fleet of two frigates and two Galleons full of 4 cannon and 4 rifles and off the FC we go!
6) Agade Cannon > Barracks, Loaded up another fleet of two galleons and 1 frigate full of 6 Cavs, 1 Rifle, 1 Cannon, and were off to see the Wizard
7) Ur Rifle > Rifle, Isin Aquaduct > Cav, Lagash Cav > Cav, The Hittites have Electricity normally I would go for this next then straight to replaceable parts, sure we may not have any rubber but were probably advanced enough to trade for some.
I'll take a break here and post some screenies for any feedback anyone wants to give me
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
1) Sumer Cav > Cav, Erich Cannon > Cannon , Umma switched Cav to Galleon
Everything is MMed pretty decent, Good playing Carlos!!  only made one change in Ur to max production.
2) Agade Cannon > Cannon , Isin Cannon to Aquaduct we can work 3 more sea tiles there, 5 turns to complete ( I hope we have enough $$ to upgrade all these cannons..
3) Kish Rifle > Rifle, Bad-tibira Cav > Cav, Took Instrialation from Hittites, the best anyone will give us for a tech is Portugal at 4 gpt and 50 gold and WM. I said Naaaahhhh! Im trying to get some rifles over to our FC, well need them with the cavs over there if we are going to be able to mount anything like an attack on someone. Our trade embargo lifted but still cant get any luxuries from anyone
We have now gone from 10 years to 5 years per turn.
4) Ur Rifle > Rifle, Lagash Cav > Cav, Umma Galleon to Factory, we just lost our one luxurie and horses.. bought horses and spices back from India at the bargain basement deal of just 440 gold. , we are starting to see something that resembles a military force, my hats off to Carlos who had the discipline to hold off building infrastructure and concentrate on an Army, (which is something I have a hard time doing) God I want some Cathedrals bad!!!!
5) Sumer Cav > Cav, Erich Cannon > Cannon, only 1100 more Gold to go for a carefull steal from Greece, we could get Communism or Fascism. I loaded a fleet of two frigates and two Galleons full of 4 cannon and 4 rifles and off the FC we go!
6) Agade Cannon > Barracks, Loaded up another fleet of two galleons and 1 frigate full of 6 Cavs, 1 Rifle, 1 Cannon, and were off to see the Wizard
7) Ur Rifle > Rifle, Isin Aquaduct > Cav, Lagash Cav > Cav, The Hittites have Electricity normally I would go for this next then straight to replaceable parts, sure we may not have any rubber but were probably advanced enough to trade for some.
8) Nothing much, Hardly any MM to do either because we are working just about every square
9) Erech > Cannon, got our 4 rifles and cannons to the fortress city safely, Well have enough gold for a careful steal soon
10) Not too much except now we have 18 units in our Fortress city so I changed production there from a Rifle to aquaduct and bought it for 36 gold, we were stuck at pop 6 there. Well we should have enough money for a careful still in a turn or two.. whoever wants it next here it is..
oops, after I saved and uploaded it I forgot there is a fortress in are fortress city, duh....
Oh well it only cost 36 gold
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Everything is MMed pretty decent, Good playing Carlos!!  only made one change in Ur to max production.
2) Agade Cannon > Cannon , Isin Cannon to Aquaduct we can work 3 more sea tiles there, 5 turns to complete ( I hope we have enough $$ to upgrade all these cannons..
3) Kish Rifle > Rifle, Bad-tibira Cav > Cav, Took Instrialation from Hittites, the best anyone will give us for a tech is Portugal at 4 gpt and 50 gold and WM. I said Naaaahhhh! Im trying to get some rifles over to our FC, well need them with the cavs over there if we are going to be able to mount anything like an attack on someone. Our trade embargo lifted but still cant get any luxuries from anyone
We have now gone from 10 years to 5 years per turn.
4) Ur Rifle > Rifle, Lagash Cav > Cav, Umma Galleon to Factory, we just lost our one luxurie and horses.. bought horses and spices back from India at the bargain basement deal of just 440 gold.
, we are starting to see something that resembles a military force, my hats off to Carlos who had the discipline to hold off building infrastructure and concentrate on an Army, (which is something I have a hard time doing) God I want some Cathedrals bad!!!! 5) Sumer Cav > Cav, Erich Cannon > Cannon, only 1100 more Gold to go for a carefull steal from Greece, we could get Communism or Fascism. I loaded a fleet of two frigates and two Galleons full of 4 cannon and 4 rifles and off the FC we go!
6) Agade Cannon > Barracks, Loaded up another fleet of two galleons and 1 frigate full of 6 Cavs, 1 Rifle, 1 Cannon, and were off to see the Wizard
7) Ur Rifle > Rifle, Isin Aquaduct > Cav, Lagash Cav > Cav, The Hittites have Electricity normally I would go for this next then straight to replaceable parts, sure we may not have any rubber but were probably advanced enough to trade for some.
8) Nothing much, Hardly any MM to do either because we are working just about every square
9) Erech > Cannon, got our 4 rifles and cannons to the fortress city safely, Well have enough gold for a careful steal soon
10) Not too much except now we have 18 units in our Fortress city so I changed production there from a Rifle to aquaduct and bought it for 36 gold, we were stuck at pop 6 there. Well we should have enough money for a careful still in a turn or two.. whoever wants it next here it is..
oops, after I saved and uploaded it I forgot there is a fortress in are fortress city, duh....
Oh well it only cost 36 goldSave
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
As Pink Floyd would say "is there anybody out there"... I'm done guys, who is next?
steviejay
Now in Black and White!!
prefered "Wish you were here" personally.
I'm here, sorry for being quiet alot recently, college is driving me batty.
Had a long read over the past few plays to see how things are going.
From my understanding, if we are to attack Greece, as someone said, it might be a good idea to do it while we still have a RoP with Carthage? sure they don't have railroads but they do have roads we can use, and moving a force in 1 great movement is alot better than scrounging around for the Galleon's needed to mount a successful landing.
In the grand scheme of thing, if we were able to take all of Greece, we'd net Saltpetre of our own, spice, horses, coal and furs. Quite a tempting prize, although we are average compared to them.
Infact, just checked, attacking Greece would bring Carthage in against us as they share a MPP so I'm not 100% sure they'd be a good target for us. Unless we wait till it finishes. or we bring in Carthage against Greece but who knows how much that'll cost.
How about India? Incense, saltpetre, dyes and horses and we're strong against them? If we took the Indian cities it would also allow us to have a norther flank against the Hittites which seems to hold some good resources. Also iirc, India share no alliances or pacts with anyone, leaving them relatively alone.
My thoughts, it's late so please maul them as you see fit
Steviejay
I'm here, sorry for being quiet alot recently, college is driving me batty.
Had a long read over the past few plays to see how things are going.
From my understanding, if we are to attack Greece, as someone said, it might be a good idea to do it while we still have a RoP with Carthage? sure they don't have railroads but they do have roads we can use, and moving a force in 1 great movement is alot better than scrounging around for the Galleon's needed to mount a successful landing.
In the grand scheme of thing, if we were able to take all of Greece, we'd net Saltpetre of our own, spice, horses, coal and furs. Quite a tempting prize, although we are average compared to them.
Infact, just checked, attacking Greece would bring Carthage in against us as they share a MPP so I'm not 100% sure they'd be a good target for us. Unless we wait till it finishes. or we bring in Carthage against Greece but who knows how much that'll cost.
How about India? Incense, saltpetre, dyes and horses and we're strong against them? If we took the Indian cities it would also allow us to have a norther flank against the Hittites which seems to hold some good resources. Also iirc, India share no alliances or pacts with anyone, leaving them relatively alone.
My thoughts, it's late so please maul them as you see fit
Steviejay
sabo
My Ancestors were Vikings
Stevie, yeah it was my idea to attack greece with all there rich resources. India was my second choice but I thought Greece was the weaker oppentent. I'ts up to you my friend.
