Aravorn
Deity
John I tried late on Sunday (Last sunday) but you must have been off already. My never ending house projects are cramping my CIV time!
Ill try again later this evening UK time.
Colonies IV MP beta test
- Thread starter Patient English
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John I tried late on Sunday (Last sunday) but you must have been off already. My never ending house projects are cramping my CIV time!
Ill try again later this evening UK time.
Aravorn
Deity
Im working on it!
Aravorn
Deity
Not much to report.
Awaiting the inevitable French attack.
Awaiting the inevitable French attack.
Aravorn
Deity
Originally posted by Yop73
Inevitable, what do you mean inevitable?
Just agree on him getting Ireland and there will be no war.
This conflict can be worked out easily with diplomacy. I'm sure John will be very reasonable.
Yes spoken like a true ally of France.
What part of England were you promised?
Patient English
Designer
There are no plans to invade England ded by France or Holland - this decade anyway. Ireland will be French, aside from Dublin.
France invites other nations to state their claims to any piece of land likely to be in dispute, in order to avoid unneccesary friction.
I will play in a few minutes....
France invites other nations to state their claims to any piece of land likely to be in dispute, in order to avoid unneccesary friction.
I will play in a few minutes....
Patient English
Designer
Problem with the dat file, Yop. Would you try uploading it again on a new post?
Aravorn
Deity
England Announces a Defensive Alliance with Spain.
The Irish Cities of Sligo, Lisburn and Cork as well as the Scotish cities of Inverness, Aberden, Oban and Edinburgh are all considered part of the British sphere or influenece. Any attacks there are considered an attack on England itself.
French King just as I have no business in the independant cities in southern France you have no business in Ireland.
Ive made myself very clear here, and have made no demands on you or your territory. If a war starts you will be the cause not me.
Patient English
Designer
The file contained in the zip has the wrong filename (1630janHolland.net), but it seems to contain the correct save as the game has moved forward with my turn to July 1631.
However, I would like that offer accepted before I play, so I will wait an hour or so for you to repost the file, Yop.
However, I would like that offer accepted before I play, so I will wait an hour or so for you to repost the file, Yop.
Patient English
Designer
That's better Steve! OK, about time you got started diplomatically....
Right: France does not renounce her claims to Ireland, although she claims no cities there that are English now. The rest WILL be French, and if Spain chooses to go to war to preserve the Irish Catholics for eventual domination by the heretics of England, so be it.
They'll probably get excommunicated by the Pope!
Nevertheless, the French borders with Spain are being reinforced, and troops sent to the Caribbean, just in case....
Right: France does not renounce her claims to Ireland, although she claims no cities there that are English now. The rest WILL be French, and if Spain chooses to go to war to preserve the Irish Catholics for eventual domination by the heretics of England, so be it.
They'll probably get excommunicated by the Pope!
Nevertheless, the French borders with Spain are being reinforced, and troops sent to the Caribbean, just in case....
yaroslav
Emperor
I reclaim all south and Central America. I'll kindly allow some dutch colonies, but only under my express authorization.
As a sidenote, I think we can wait 24 hours for the Yop's offer.
As a sidenote, I think we can wait 24 hours for the Yop's offer.
yaroslav
Emperor
I'll not go on war, but I can't allow a european war...
Aravorn
Deity
I started at the beginning John, I just didn't start before we started playing.
And as you know you were the first one I talked to and you rejected my offers.
Patient English
Designer
And as for England making demands of France - the idea is laughable! 
However, neutrals will notice that I make no demands of English territory either. The lands of Ireland in question are those where the writ of England does not run. Indeed, I consign the Calvinist heretics of Scotland to the tender mercies of their southern neighbours without a qualm.
If England opposes French troops in Ireland, or elsewhere, with force, then she may expect life to get very interesting, if bloody!
However, French troops will not fire upon Englishmen unless they are themselves attacked, nor trespass into the area of control around Dublin, known as The Pale. We shall see in due course who the aggressor is, here....
However, neutrals will notice that I make no demands of English territory either. The lands of Ireland in question are those where the writ of England does not run. Indeed, I consign the Calvinist heretics of Scotland to the tender mercies of their southern neighbours without a qualm.
If England opposes French troops in Ireland, or elsewhere, with force, then she may expect life to get very interesting, if bloody!
However, French troops will not fire upon Englishmen unless they are themselves attacked, nor trespass into the area of control around Dublin, known as The Pale. We shall see in due course who the aggressor is, here....
Patient English
Designer
Nor I.
Patient English
Designer
I love this diplomacy/propaganda! Almost better than the actual game. 
Makes it come alive for me....
Makes it come alive for me....
Aravorn
Deity
I would be willing to agree to Ireland remaining under "Barbarian Control".
But France over running the Irish is unacceptable. It is an excuse to give the French bases to interdict English Shipping whenever she desires.
I dont think Im being unreasonable here. I can comprimise. But I must do what is in the British national interests!
But France over running the Irish is unacceptable. It is an excuse to give the French bases to interdict English Shipping whenever she desires.
I dont think Im being unreasonable here. I can comprimise. But I must do what is in the British national interests!
Patient English
Designer
Of course you must, Steve. And I the same, for La Belle France. However, I will consider your proposal, it is not without merit....
