computer that predicts the future

cgannon64 said:
I'm more than skeptical: this sounds like total crap.

Maybe they could have had me if they didn't go with that whole changing outcomes via pyschic powers nonsense.
Strong words. What makes it seem like "total crap"?
 
Does this mean that if you concentrate hard enough you can get CivIV's RNGod to give you a Settler start on Diety? :wow:
 
This can't be done with the known laws of physics of this universe.
 
The question is, does predicting the future create the future?

Think, Leo from the Dune books.
 
I wonder if it ever spews out 47.
 
Narz said:
Strong words. What makes it seem like "total crap"?
For what its worth, it doesnt seem like crap to me. Until someone gives me a better reason to rule it out than , 'Uh just because', I'll keep an open mind about it.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
 
Sounds really cool, but it's hard not to be skeptical.
 
cgannon64 said:
Most of all, the idea that pyschic concentration can overthrow probability.
Fair enough. I believe that to be self-evident though. I imagine that if you were to go into one of two empty rooms and twenty other people were to go into an adjacent room and instucted to send hateful thoughts towards you for half an hour you would probably feel it. Same with loving thoughts. Don't you believe in prayer? Prayer is nothing more than crystalized intention and the universe (or God if you will) cannot help but be swayed (at least to a minor degree) by such energy.
 
Again and again, entirely ordinary people proved that their minds could influence the machine and produce significant fluctuations on the graph, 'forcing it' to produce unequal numbers of 'heads' or 'tails'.

Thats meant to happen with probability. It would be pretty odd to get an entirely 50/50 split.
 
Narz said:
Fair enough. I believe that to be self-evident though. I imagine that if you were to go into one of two empty rooms and twenty other people were to go into an adjacent room and instucted to send hateful thoughts towards you for half an hour you would probably feel it. Same with loving thoughts. Don't you believe in prayer? Prayer is nothing more than crystalized intention and the universe (or God if you will) cannot help but be swayed (at least to a minor degree) by such energy.
Prayer involves a god. This sort-of pyschic feeling control, as far as I can tell, does not.

Now, tell me, why do you imagine you'd feel it?
 
Narz said:
I believe that to be self-evident though. I imagine that if you were to go into one of two empty rooms and twenty other people were to go into an adjacent room and instucted to send hateful thoughts towards you for half an hour you would probably feel it.
No, I wouldn't.
 
* How do they define "unusual patterns of 1s and 0s"? (The article suggests it's when there's more of one than the other.)
* How do they define an event to be significant?

Did they announce that something significant was going to happen *before* 9/11 and so on, or is this a case of "noticing" a correlation after the event? To me this just looks like "Bible codes", where people spot patterns, but for example ignore cases where there's an unusual pattern with no corresponding significant event - or alternatively, there's enough things going on in the world that you could find *some* "significant" event.

Again and again, entirely ordinary people proved that their minds could influence the machine and produce significant fluctuations on the graph, 'forcing it' to produce unequal numbers of 'heads' or 'tails'.

According to all of the known laws of science, this should not have happened - but it did. And it kept on happening.
And these results have been reproduced by other scientists?

As for them "respected scientists", do we have some evidence besides a biased article (no, the "doubters" are not acknowledging anything)?
 
Unless the computer's RNG comes from a nondeterministic process (which 99.9999% of computers arn't), then it is not truely random.
 
Bill3000 said:
Unless the computer's RNG comes from a nondeterministic process (which 99.9999% of computers arn't), then it is not truely random.
Which means that someone must have designed it to produce these anomolies in order to coordinate their evil plans...

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