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Congratulations to 180+ Nations of the World

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Andu Indorin, Jul 26, 2001.

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  1. Andu Indorin

    Andu Indorin Retired Druid

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    Kyoto Accord approved. One more step in the right direction.
     
  2. Az

    Az Emperor

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    Yeah but I guess the US didn't aproove it, dit they?

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  3. CornMaster

    CornMaster Romulan Commander Retired Moderator

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    Enlighten Me.

    Kyoto Accord?

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  4. duke o' york

    duke o' york It don't mean a thing....

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    It's the treaty drafted in Kyoto that aims to decrease global emissions and basically save the planet. It's why there were all those protests in Genoa. For some reason, Bush doesn't think it'd be a good thing to sign.

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  5. Az

    Az Emperor

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    Probably Bush thinks that America will loose money...and maybe it's true.

    Anyone knows more about that?

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    CornMaster Romulan Commander Retired Moderator

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    Yes....yes....Bush is a total ass.

    But it's true.....America will lose (short term) on this deal. It's going to cost money to reduce emitions, and clean up pollution. Also...few Americans have to deal with problems that their pollution causes. (exception, smog and river pollution) Greenhouse gasses and Sulfur Emitions (that create Acid rain) travel North to Canada. Where we get rained on by America's Acid. And the greenhouse gasses make holes in the ozone layer near the poles. If Americans had to deal with these 2 MAJOR problems, that (for the most part) avoids them, then they would feel differently about saving the environment.

    But if America is forced to do it....by the Kyoto Accord....in the words of Mr. Burns, "Excellent", *folds fingers*

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  7. thedirk

    thedirk Master of Stealth

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    The Kyoto accord will cost every country money. But the pint is that it's like taking medicine. It tastes bad at the time, but you will feel better later. And if you don't do it, you will only get sicker.

    Us North Americans never like to do anything that hurts our pocket books, but if we don't rethink our approach to conservation and motives for profit, we will be the tools of our own demise.

    That's my piece.

    I hope that Kyoto will be a success, despite it's detractors.
     
  8. duke o' york

    duke o' york It don't mean a thing....

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    I hope so, but the trouble is that its major detractor is the most powerful man in the world.

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  9. Vrylakas

    Vrylakas The Verbose Lord

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    Actually, the Kyoto has business-incentives built in. In the short-term this may have a negative impact on business costs, but in the long-term it will be a boon. The Wall Street Journal - not exactly a liberal rag - noted this yesterday on its front cover and also brought up the likely benefits from increased efficiency of companies who comply with the accords. The WSJ also noted that American companies will find themselves at a competitive disadvantage abroad if they do not comply. Multi-national corporations with offices in signatory countries will have to comply. And should the United States sign the treaty belatedly in a few years - say, after the Democrats or moderate Republicans take over the Presidency & Congress in '04 - there will be a great expense for American businesses in catching up to required emissions levels by then.

    The U.S. was, from the 1970s onward, leading Europe in controlling emissions and pollutants - but the bottom has just dramatically dropped out of that one. I salute the 178 countries who've bellied up and signed this historic accord.

    We need to keep up the pressure on the fool in the White House to remind him that there are more than just Daddy's Texas oilmen-friends in the world.



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  10. Az

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    Ity nice to see that country leaders can still think "long term".
    Maybe the end of the world will be delayed a bit...

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    Bush is just the worst thing that happened to the US. I say put him on the electric chair (not really ofcourse, for all you people who feel offended because 'I want your president dead!).

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  12. Lefty Scaevola

    Lefty Scaevola Moderatus Illuminatus Super Moderator

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    Years before bush took office the US Senate rejected Kyoto 95 to 0 in a resolution telling Clinton to negotiate a better deal or forget it. Clinton never even submitted it to the Senate. It would not have made a difference for Kyoto in the US even if the Green party won the presidency.

     
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