Constitutional Discussion: Switching Government Styles
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Strider said:
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Provo, our status as 'veteran' is meaningless, and we're not trying to be elitist. We're simply looking at th epast as a way to guide the future. Our length in the demogame gives us no different status, and we neither wish for it to, nor claim that it would.
Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
Curufinwe said:
Was that a self-contradictory statement? The first sentence says "veteran" is meaningless" and "not trying to be elitist". But in the second you indirectly try to rule out DGIV as the base for all future experience, and strick to traditional.
Has it occured to you that some of the grown up players here tone down their life experiences to make this democratic.
Whatever, I have even given up on both polarized camps, and just let it slide.
I am for both fewer offices AND a reshuffle.
'Tone down their life experiences...' I don't see how my statement can be construed in the manner in which you said it. What I said is what I said and meant, that length in the demogame has no direct corellation, but past experience can. I have no special status, having not truly participated in a game since the third, and so, despite having been in it in some manner for years, I have no real claim to authority in regards to the latter ones, and little in the former. The highest office I've ever effectively held is that of Culture Minister, and apart from that I've been a Governor and a Chief Justice, though I did literally nothing as CJ, so I have no real validity were I to true to claim special status. Please don't construe my words to mean what they don't.
That someone has a higher veteran status does not by itself, and should not, have any real bearing on the weight of their arguments in this game. There are however two aspects of being a veteran which enter into the discussion.
Firstly, those of us who have actively lived through an event can use our eyewitness account of what happened and what its effects were as evidence for or against doing the same thing again now. You are correct to be wary of certain statements, like "DG2 was the glory days" or "the DG2 constitution was the best one". Some of us are careful about identifying opinion vs. fact and some are not. For example in one of the previous games we had a Senate comprising the Governors and chaired by the Vice President. The Senate had responsibility for slider instructions. For several play sessions in a row we had 3 governors but the slider votes were consistently 1-0-0 with 2 not voting. Sometimes you'll hear "having a Senate is a bad idea, we tried that and it didn't work" and other times you'll get details on what actually was the problem.
Secondly, the historical context serves as the background for long-standing friendships and feuds. To the extent that people tend to act favorably to their friends and unfavorably to their enemies, there are real effects of being a veteran.
I have come to understand, over the three months of debate regarding government style, that the technical aspects of how the offices are spread out has little or nothing to do with our team success or failure as a government or in the game. The team is as weak as its weakest link.
Regardless of the government style, if all of the elected leaders play their part perfectly and exactly as scripted, then that style will work perfectly. If any of us are imperfect, and one thing I can guarantee is that every single one of us will be imperfect in some way, then the government and the game will be imperfect. If someone completely blows their assignment, in either style, then the others in the game are placed in the awkward situation of picking up the holes.
When it works correctly, the current style would have higher potential to produce really good results, because all the interfaces between offices are supposed to produce more evenhanded discussions where all aspects of a decision get well represented by the leader who is supposed to advocate for that aspect. As someone who is generally optimistic, I look at that potential and say it is a good thing. The drawback is that the more interrelations there are, the more opportunities for problems arise. Given the inherent shortcomings of human nature, there will be problems.
For illustrative purposes only, here is a little math. If 10 people give 110% multiplicatively, the result will be 1.1^10, or 250%. If 10 people give 90%, the result is 0.9^10, or 34%. The same results for 6 people are 1.1^6 = 177% and 0.9^6 = 53%. As you can see, the upside result is dramatic but the downside result is even more dramatic. Provolution's point is correct at this level, if 6 is better than 10, then 5 is better than 6.
This may come as a shock or it may not. The end result of all this analysis is that the ultimate number of offices to have, and the breakdown of those offices, can be found by asking a group of people who wants to volunteer for what, and tailoring the structure to match. Do that once a term and include a mechanism for resolving disputes, and you've got the perfect game.
We also need to listen to our constituants. When we ask them periodically why they stay or leave, the pretty consistent answer is just play the game.
Firstly, those of us who have actively lived through an event can use our eyewitness account of what happened and what its effects were as evidence for or against doing the same thing again now. You are correct to be wary of certain statements, like "DG2 was the glory days" or "the DG2 constitution was the best one". Some of us are careful about identifying opinion vs. fact and some are not. For example in one of the previous games we had a Senate comprising the Governors and chaired by the Vice President. The Senate had responsibility for slider instructions. For several play sessions in a row we had 3 governors but the slider votes were consistently 1-0-0 with 2 not voting. Sometimes you'll hear "having a Senate is a bad idea, we tried that and it didn't work" and other times you'll get details on what actually was the problem.
Secondly, the historical context serves as the background for long-standing friendships and feuds. To the extent that people tend to act favorably to their friends and unfavorably to their enemies, there are real effects of being a veteran.
I have come to understand, over the three months of debate regarding government style, that the technical aspects of how the offices are spread out has little or nothing to do with our team success or failure as a government or in the game. The team is as weak as its weakest link.
Regardless of the government style, if all of the elected leaders play their part perfectly and exactly as scripted, then that style will work perfectly. If any of us are imperfect, and one thing I can guarantee is that every single one of us will be imperfect in some way, then the government and the game will be imperfect. If someone completely blows their assignment, in either style, then the others in the game are placed in the awkward situation of picking up the holes.
When it works correctly, the current style would have higher potential to produce really good results, because all the interfaces between offices are supposed to produce more evenhanded discussions where all aspects of a decision get well represented by the leader who is supposed to advocate for that aspect. As someone who is generally optimistic, I look at that potential and say it is a good thing. The drawback is that the more interrelations there are, the more opportunities for problems arise. Given the inherent shortcomings of human nature, there will be problems.
For illustrative purposes only, here is a little math. If 10 people give 110% multiplicatively, the result will be 1.1^10, or 250%. If 10 people give 90%, the result is 0.9^10, or 34%. The same results for 6 people are 1.1^6 = 177% and 0.9^6 = 53%. As you can see, the upside result is dramatic but the downside result is even more dramatic. Provolution's point is correct at this level, if 6 is better than 10, then 5 is better than 6.
This may come as a shock or it may not. The end result of all this analysis is that the ultimate number of offices to have, and the breakdown of those offices, can be found by asking a group of people who wants to volunteer for what, and tailoring the structure to match. Do that once a term and include a mechanism for resolving disputes, and you've got the perfect game.
We also need to listen to our constituants. When we ask them periodically why they stay or leave, the pretty consistent answer is just play the game.
Provolution
Sage of Quatronia
Again, most people seem paralyzed, and we lose players by the day.
We are stuck between a rock and a hard place, as we want a reform based on the Alternate Proposal with a reshuffle down to five. But we are yelled at.
Either those who wants to defend the present system die-hard, OR the ones going all traditional again. And when we say we want a reshuffle, we are yelled at, by default, again bringing up a spurious reference that make the majority of us (5 and 6 generation players) at unease, and obliterating any productive argument on finalizing the process. Thanks to this polarized and spurious stalling tactics of traditionalists and
die hard reactive revolutionaries, we cannot put in place needed reforms in time.
I am not even arguing a side now, I can see we are getting closer to the 22, and we will be stuck with this already obsolete structure for another 38 days as we are chewing through the traditional rehash and DGIV propaganda. I REALLY do not want to hear more of DGIV, and the reason things failed is all the Judicial threads I read on personal attacks and sabotage attempts that game, more than any.
I am certain things will be stalled to the 22 this time around to. Excellent work...
We are stuck between a rock and a hard place, as we want a reform based on the Alternate Proposal with a reshuffle down to five. But we are yelled at.
Either those who wants to defend the present system die-hard, OR the ones going all traditional again. And when we say we want a reshuffle, we are yelled at, by default, again bringing up a spurious reference that make the majority of us (5 and 6 generation players) at unease, and obliterating any productive argument on finalizing the process. Thanks to this polarized and spurious stalling tactics of traditionalists and
die hard reactive revolutionaries, we cannot put in place needed reforms in time.
I am not even arguing a side now, I can see we are getting closer to the 22, and we will be stuck with this already obsolete structure for another 38 days as we are chewing through the traditional rehash and DGIV propaganda. I REALLY do not want to hear more of DGIV, and the reason things failed is all the Judicial threads I read on personal attacks and sabotage attempts that game, more than any.
I am certain things will be stalled to the 22 this time around to. Excellent work...
RegentMan
Deity
Methinks I have a solution. DGVIIa will use the "Traditional" constitution and DGVIIb will use the DGVI constitution. People can join whatever or both games and get the experience they want.
Man am I tired of these discussions!
Man am I tired of these discussions!
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or why not have the teams play against each other(like the idea we had before this game), of course we know who would winRegentMan said:
Strider
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DaveShack said:I have come to understand, over the three months of debate regarding government style, that the technical aspects of how the offices are spread out has little or nothing to do with our team success or failure as a government or in the game. The team is as weak as its weakest link.
Regardless of the government style, if all of the elected leaders play their part perfectly and exactly as scripted, then that style will work perfectly. If any of us are imperfect, and one thing I can guarantee is that every single one of us will be imperfect in some way, then the government and the game will be imperfect. If someone completely blows their assignment, in either style, then the others in the game are placed in the awkward situation of picking up the holes.
When it works correctly, the current style would have higher potential to produce really good results, because all the interfaces between offices are supposed to produce more evenhanded discussions where all aspects of a decision get well represented by the leader who is supposed to advocate for that aspect. As someone who is generally optimistic, I look at that potential and say it is a good thing. The drawback is that the more interrelations there are, the more opportunities for problems arise. Given the inherent shortcomings of human nature, there will be problems.
For illustrative purposes only, here is a little math. If 10 people give 110% multiplicatively, the result will be 1.1^10, or 250%. If 10 people give 90%, the result is 0.9^10, or 34%. The same results for 6 people are 1.1^6 = 177% and 0.9^6 = 53%. As you can see, the upside result is dramatic but the downside result is even more dramatic. Provolution's point is correct at this level, if 6 is better than 10, then 5 is better than 6.
This may come as a shock or it may not. The end result of all this analysis is that the ultimate number of offices to have, and the breakdown of those offices, can be found by asking a group of people who wants to volunteer for what, and tailoring the structure to match. Do that once a term and include a mechanism for resolving disputes, and you've got the perfect game.
We also need to listen to our constituants. When we ask them periodically why they stay or leave, the pretty consistent answer is just play the game.
Daveshack, so your saying that if EVERYTHING was perfect, if EVERYTHING worked out the exact way you wanted it to, this system would be perfect?
Please do not tell me you were expecting everything you planned to come out exactly as you planned.
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In other news, I will try to get the constitution up tommorow. Right now I'm fairly distracted, and doubt I can get anything done.
Strider said:
Turn your preconceived notions about me upside down and read again.
What I'm saying is that if everyone went along and did their part the new system would be better than the old. I never expected perfection but I did, incorrectly, expect more cooperation than there has been.
I'm also saying that the reward (good results) is better with the new, but the risk of bad results is even higher than that benefit. The magnitude of the down side is higher than the magnitude of the up side.
The fact still remains that you have a herculean task if you want to actually change it. My expectation based on previous surveys of the citizens (which do not guarantee future returns tm) is that a majority would rather play it out than change it.
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The National Budget shall consist of our total amount of gold (lump sum, not gold per turn), at the end of a respective turnchat. It shall also include how much is to be spent next turnchat, and what it's being spent on. The National Budget shall be compiled and posted, inside of the ministry thread and turnchat instruction thread, by the Domestic Miniser each turnchat. The Domestic minister is graced with the ability to distribute all funds contained within the National Budget. They are also tasked with the responsibility of posted how much can be spent each turnchat.
Section 1. Governor Loan
The Domestic Minister shall create a set point of funds to be spent each turnchat, posted within the National Budget. If the current budget has not reached that pre-determined point, a governor may demand a rush, which consits of them informing the Domestic Advisor to add the rush to the National budget without the Domestic Advisors approval. However, if the total sum of gold for the rush will exceed the point defined by the Domestic Advisor, then a governor may not demand the rush. The governor's with more corrupt provinces get priority when demanding a rush, this priority will be decided by the Domestic advisor.
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The chain of command is used for determining the Designated Player of the chat, if the President has not assigned one. This is to be used if the assigned DP does not show up.
President
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Defense Minister
Trade Minister
Science Minister
Foreign Affairs Minister
Culture Minister
Governors (in order of date joined)
Deputies (in order of Minister)
Article A. Citizen Rights
All Civfanatics Forum users who register in the Citizen Registry are citizens of our country. Citizens have the right to assemble, the right to free movement, the right to free speech, the right to a fair and speedy trial, the right to representation, the right to seek to redress grievances, and the right to vote.
Section 1. Rights Reserved to the People
Rights reserved to the people As provided by Article A of this constitution, all actions not forbidden by forum rules, or by this Constitution, are presumed to be within the right of every citizen. Actions prescribed by this Constitution may be substituted by other similar actions, provided such substitution lies within the spirit of these rules.
Section 2. Slate Polling and Political Parties
Slate Polling, or the agreement among certain citizens to vote for a single candidate is illegal and against the Sprit of the game. As such, political parties are also illegal and against the Sprit of the game.
Article B. Laws and Rules
Governing laws and rules shall consist of these Articles of the Constitution, the Code of Laws, and any administrative rules that a governmental official shall propose and are accepted by the people. No law or rule shall be valid which is in contravention of this Constitution, excepting an amendment specifically tasked to do so. The Constitution may be amended by vote of the citizenry.
Section 1. Amending the Constitution
There shall be two ways in which to amend the constitution. The first shall require a 2/3's majority of Yes votes over No votes, if less then half of the census votes in the poll at the date of the polls opening. If quroum is reached it takes a simple majority of Yes over No votes. The poll must run for 4 days. Amendment to the constitution must be given to the Judiciary for confirmation, who will then post the amendment poll.
Article C. Basic Government
The government will consist of the Executive Branch, Legislative Branch and Judicial Branch. These Branches are tasked with the play of the save, creation of laws, and upholding of laws, respectively.
Article D. The Executive Branch
The Executive branch is responsible for determining and implementing the will of the People, and is headed by the President. The President is charged with organizing and monitoring the affairs of the Ministers, and is also the primary designated player. The President shall take direction from a council of leaders and from other elected and appointed officials via the turnchat instruction thread, including worker actions. The President is also charged with appointing citizens to uncontested elections, the election office, the Naming Commission, and the Newbies Society.
Section 1. Domestic Affairs
The Minister of Domestic Affairs shall be responsible for all domestic initiatives, including revolts and slider management, and the management of the national budget.
Section 2. Foreign Affairs
he Minister of Foreign Affairs shall be responsible for matters involving treaties with foreign nations as well as all espionage and embassy missions.
Section 3. Defensive Affairs
The Minister of Defense shall be responsible for all military strategy, troop activities, and unit upgrades.
Section 4. Trade
The Minister of Trade shall be responsible for negotiating trades both domestic and foreign, and monitored rival civs trade status.
Section 5. Research and Technology
The Minister of Science shall be responsible for all tech acquisition, foreign and domestic, and the construction of space ship parts.
Section 6. Cultural Affairs
The Minister of Culture shall be responsible for the construction of wonders, the analysis and maintenance of cultural borders, as well as the movement and actions of settlers. This official shall also be responsible for monitoring Japanatica's cultural level against that of all rival nations. The Minister of Culture is also charged with the responsibility of the formation of new provinces.
Article E. Legislative Branch
The Legislative Branch shall be formed of the House of the People and Governors of [Insert Nation Name Here].
Section 1. The House of the People
The House of the People will be formed of the entirety of the citizenry and is responsible for the drafting of new Laws and Amendments to the Constitution. The House will present all proposed Articles, Amendments and Laws to the Judicial Branch for review. The House of the People is also responsible for observing the Executive and Judicial branches of government.
Section 2. The Governors
Governors are responsible for the care, management, use of the cities, and use of lands of there province through the setting of build queues, allocation of laborers on tiles, and population rushes.
Section 3. Mayors
Mayors are appointed by a governor and tasked with the ability to monitor and advise governors for the care, management, and use of there city. They are limited to the power the governor gives them.
Article F. The Judicial Branch
The Judicial Branch will consist of the Chief Justice, the Public Defender, and the Judge Advocate. These three justices are tasked with upholding the Constitution and its supporting laws (if any) in a fair and impartial manner as prescribed by law. The Chief Justice shall have the additional responsibility of organizing and conducting the affairs of the Judicial Branch. The Public Defender will act as counsel for an accused individual. The Judge Advocate will act as the prosecution. The Judicial Branch shall have the additional responsibility of monitoring and upkeeping the census. The census shall be defined as the average number of votes cast, dropping fractions, in each of the contested elections in the most recent general election, and is used for amending the constitution.
Section 1. Judicial Procedures
The elected Judiciary shall create their procedures once elected it, to be located in the first post of that term's Judiciary thread. Any change after the Judiciary's posting of these procedures will require the Will of the People.
Article G. Elections, the Election Office, and Deputies
The Elections determine the elected officials of [insert country name here]. Elected Officials shall have a fixed term of one month, starting from the first of the month. All elected officials must act according to the Will of the People, as mentioned below in Article J.
Section 1. Elections
All elected positions shall have a fixed term of one month. Each position will be granted to the candidate receiving the largest number of votes in that election. In the event of a tie between two or more candidates with the most votes, a runoff poll shall be opened between those candidates only. This poll shall run for 2 days, and be repeated as often as needed to resolve the tie. Nominations shall begin roughly 8 days before the end of the month, with debates following exactly 2 days after that, and elections 2 days after debates. Nominations will be closed once the elections begin, however debates will continue.
Section 2. The Election Office
The Election Office shall be comprised of those citizens willing to assist the election process. These citizens are appointed by the President, and are subject to a confirmation poll. The Election Office shall determine before each election who will post the threads for that election. The Election Office shall maintain on the initial post of their thread the dates for the current and next election cycle. The Election Office shall solicit and maintain a common list of debate questions for each office. This list shall be posted as soon as possible in each debate thread. Any non-trivial differences in the dates/times threads are posted from the scheduled time should be noted by the Election Office official posting the thread.
Section 3. Pre-Nominations
Any citizen may submit a Pre-Nomination to a member of the Election Office one week before the start of the election process (Nominations, Debates, and Elections).
Section 4. Deputies
All Executive and Legislative positions shall have a deputy. The Deputy will be permitted to conduct the affairs of the office as directed, or during a planned Absence of the elected official. If no instructions have been posted for an office within 24 hours of the upcoming Turn Chat, the deputy for that office may post the official instructions for the office. The Judiciary does not use deputies. In the event of an Absence, a pro-tem justice(s) may be appointed by the Chief Justice (or Judge Advocate if the Chief Justice if absent) and confirmed by the President and the remaining justice if not also absent. If both the Chief Justice and the Judge Advocate are absent, the Public Defender may appoint pro-tems to the other seats, with Presidential approval. A deputy is chosen by the elected official.
Section 5. Appointments
The President will appoint a citizen to any Vacant office. If a deputy exists for that office, the President must appoint that citizen. This appointment may be challenged by any citizen by that citizen posting a confirmation poll within 24 hours of the appointment.
Article H. Multiple Poistions
No person shall hold multiple positions of leadership (President, Vice-President, Department Leader, Judiciary, Provincial Governor, Deputy) simultaneously. The Election Office, the Naming Commission, and similiar offices do not count. However, a citizen may have up to 2 accepted nominations by the start of elections.
Article I. The Will of the People
Elected officials must plan and act according to the will of the people. The will of the people must be determined through discussion and polls. The Will of the People is the final authority on all matters relating to the demogame.
Article J. Turnchats/Turnchat Instruction Thread
Any play of the save, numbering more than one turn, must take place during a public turnchat. Any play numbering less than one turn may take place inside of a private turnchat. In both instances, a log of events must be kept by the designated player.
Section 1. Turnchat Instruction Thread
A turnchat instruction thread must be created at least 3 days before the chat. All official instructions must be posted in the current turnchat instruction thread. Instructions must be clear and defined. Officials must post their instructions at least one hour prior to the Turnchat. However, officials may make changes to their instructions up to half an hour before the chat, so long as those changes are noted. The Designated Player shall be charged with the creation of a date and time for all public turnchats.
Article K. CivFanatics Forum Rules
The constitution, laws and standards of [Insert Country Name Here] can never be contrary to the rules and regulations of the Civfanatics forums. Moderators may veto any such constitutional amendments, laws or standards.
Article L. Commission of Game Actions
Commission of any game action by any person other than the Designated Player while carrying out their duties that is not instantly reversible without reloading the save is strictly forbidden. Exception: Determining options in the renegotiation of Peace agreements requires an action of acceptance or war to exit the bargain screen. This may be done but the game must be immediately closed without saving.
Article M. Provinces
A province shall be formed by a collection of cities, based on similiar geographic, ethnic, and economic backgrounds. The land as seen on the city-screen, and all land inbetween shall make up the province. The Formation of a Province will be handled VIA discussions and polling, and must be handled in a timely manner. The Culture Minister manages all cities that are not placed under the domain of a province. If the province was created mid-term, the Governor for the remainder of that term is appointed by the President. A province shall be named by it's first elected governor.
Article N. Freedom of Information
All elected/appointed officials are charged with the duty to post enough information for the citizens to make a informed decision. This includes information from the save, discussions, and past polls. Any citizen of the demogame may demand a minister to supply more information. A elected official may appoint a citizen to do this task for them.
Section 1.Ministry Threads
Each Minister shall post a basic department update, every turnchat, inside of there respective Ministry thread. This update must include information about the progress of the minister and there respective duties.
Article O. The Naming Commission
The Naming Commission is charged with the task of creating a list of names for use by the Designated Player in the naming of cities and units. If a citizen fails to create a city name, then they will be skipped.
Section 1. Naming Order
The order of naming cities shall be decided by rank in the CoC. The naming of units shall be decided by the date joined inside of the registry.
Article P. The Aid Committee
The Aid Committee shall be made up of voulantary members appointed by the President, and are tasked with the responsibility of aiding other citizens in the concepts of the game. They are also tasked with the creation of Demogame FAQ's and any other material relating to demogame help. In addition, they are tasked with bringing in, and helping newer players.
Article Q. Vacancies
Any elected official may declare themselves to be Absent for a period of time. During this time, the deputy or pro-tem will act with all power and duties of that office, surrendering them to the official or Justice when they return or at the end of the planned absence, whichever comes first. Should an official fail to post instructions for 2 consecutive turn chats without prior notice, the Judiciary may declare that office Vacant. If a Justice has not posted on any active Judicial matter for three days, the remaining Justices may declare the Justice Absent. If a Justice has not posted on any active Judicial matter for seven days, the remaining Justices may declare the office Vacant. If all three Justices fail to post on any active Judicial matter for 7 days, the President may declare all Judicial offices Vacant, and immediately appoint a Chief Justice.
Article R. Polling Standards
Polls fall into three categories; Formal, Informal, and Informational.
Section 1. Formal Polls
Formals polls are any poll posted by an elected official covering an area under there jurisdiction. They are used to decide issues in the game, and are considered valid meeting these requirements. A Formal poll must run for 3 days, the poll must include all popular options and abstain. The first post must contain all information regarding the poll, including the discussion thread and ministry thread.
Section 2. Informal Polls
Informals polls are any poll posted by a citizen covering an area that is not under there jurisdiction. They are used to decide issues in the game, and are only considered if the respective minister or the Judiciary recognize it as such. Inorder for an Informal Poll to be considered a Formal Poll, it must meet all of the requirements of a Formal poll.
Section 3. Informational Polls
Informational Polls are any poll posted by a citizen in an attempt to collect information and citizen views over an issue. They are not formal, and require no set time limit. An Informational poll must be recognized as such in either the thread title or the first post of the thread.
Article S. National Budget
The National Budget shall consist of our total amount of gold (lump sum, not gold per turn), at the end of a respective turnchat. It shall also include how much is to be spent next turnchat, and what it's being spent on. The National Budget shall be compiled and posted, inside of the ministry thread and turnchat instruction thread, by the Domestic Miniser each turnchat. The Domestic minister is graced with the ability to distribute all funds contained within the National Budget. They are also tasked with the responsibility of posted how much can be spent each turnchat.
Section 1. Governor Loan
The Domestic Minister shall create a set point of funds to be spent each turnchat, posted within the National Budget. If the current budget has not reached that pre-determined point, a governor may demand a rush, which consits of them informing the Domestic Advisor to add the rush to the National budget without the Domestic Advisors approval. However, if the total sum of gold for the rush will exceed the point defined by the Domestic Advisor, then a governor may not demand the rush. The governor's with more corrupt provinces get priority when demanding a rush, this priority will be decided by the Domestic advisor.
Article T. Chain of Command
The chain of command is used for determining the Designated Player of the chat, if the President has not assigned one. This is to be used if the assigned DP does not show up.
President
Vice President
Domestic Minister
Defense Minister
Trade Minister
Science Minister
Foreign Affairs Minister
Culture Minister
Governors (in order of date joined)
Deputies (in order of Minister)
Article U. Upon Ratification
These article(s) of constitution will not take effect untill the start of the next term. These article(s) of constitution will replace all currently placed article(s) of constitution. Upon the turn of the next term, this article (Article U.) will cease to exist.
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Okay, this is the final version of the constitution. The head bashing starts today.
Strider
In Retrospect
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We, the people of Fanatannia, in order to create an atmosphere of
friendship, cooperation, and pride, establish this Constitution of our
beloved country. We uphold the beliefs that each citizen must have an
equal voice in the government and ruling of our country, that
government itself is a construct of and servant to the people, that
rules, regulations, and laws should be established to facilitate the
active participation of the people and to make possible the dreams and
desires of the citizens.
Article A. All Civfanatics Forum users who register in the Citizen
Registry are citizens of our country. Citizens have the
right to assemble, the right to free movement, the right
to free speech, the right to a fair and speedy trial, the
right to representation, the right to name units (within
the naming convention), the right to request an
investigation into possible violations of law and the
right to vote.
Article B. Governing rules shall consist of these Articles of the
Constitution, any amendments that follow and the Code of
Laws. No rule shall be valid that contradicts these
Articles.
Article C. The government will consist of four branches: Strategic
Branch, Tactical Branch, Judicial Branch, and the General
Assembly,
Article D. The Strategic Branch consists of the President, the Vice
President, and the Consuls. The Consuls, as listed below,
are in tasked with deciding on the broader picture of how
Fanatannia will operate.
1. President - Leads discussions crossing over multiple
areas of different Consuls. He/she will also decide on
any strategic tasks not designated to another consul
in this constitution. The President is the primary
designated player. He/she has the following
responsibilities, and may appoint a citizen to oversee
a responsibility: Naming of Cities and Units,
Elections, and Polling Standards. These appointed
officials remain in office until removed by a
President. The President also leads discussion on how
to use military and scientific great leaders.
2. Vice President - Assistant to the President. He/she may
take over the President's tasks when the President is
absent. If the President should be removed from office
for any reason the Vice President will then take the
position of President and appoint a Vice President.
The Vice President must be approved by a majority of
the consuls, if the Vice President is appointed mid-term.
3. Consul for Domestic Policy - Oversees long term
settlement, long term worker plans, and long term city
development objectives. Plans government switches.
4. Consul for External Policy - Oversees long term planning
of policy regarding other nations. This includes
military plans, long term foreign affairs, and long term
trading goals.
5. Consul for Cultural Policy - Monitors culture. Pushes
for culture improvements. Fits science and religious
improvements into the big picture. Plans wonder
strategy.
6. Consul for Resources and Technology Policy - Decides on
long term tech queues, long term resource policies,
long term fiscal policies.
Article E. The Tactical Branch consists of the the officials in charge
of micromanagement of the game, within the boundaries of
the Strategic Branch's policy. The Tactical Branch consists
of the officials below.
1. Commander of Armed Forces - Micromanages the military
operations against foreign countries and unit
(excluding worker, settler, and non-military transport)
movements.
2. Director of Commerce - Decides on foreign affairs and
trading. Sets exact tech queue. Manages budget. Adjusts
slider and approves/denies requests from leaders
regarding the use of gold. Also decides on espionage
missions.
3. Director of Infrastructure - Controls the worker
actions. Reviews requests from governors about worker
requests and accepts/denies these.
4. Director of Expansion - Decides on where to settle with
settlers. The Director of Expansion also oversees the
creation of provincal boundaries. Controls movement of
settlers and settler carrying transports.
5. Governors - Each Governor shall determine any policies
and procedures needed to carry out their duties.
Governors are responsible for the care, management,
use of the cities, and use of lands of a province
through the setting of build queues, allocation of
laborers on tiles, population rushes and drafting of
citizen soldiers.
Article F. The Judiciary or Judicial Branch is tasked with upholding,
defending, and interpreting the laws of Fanatannia. The
Judiciary also upholds the rights of all citizens. The
Judiciary may create Judicial Procedures which define how
the Judiciary will operate. These procedures must be
approved by 2/3 of the justices. These procedures are lower
than the Constitution and Code of Laws, so they must be
within the boundaries of the constitution. The Chief
Justice, Judge Advocate, and Public defender make up the
Judiciary.
1. Chief Justice - Organizes and heads the affairs and
discussions of the court. May take place of other
Justices if there is no pro-term justice.
2. Judge Advocate - Prosecutes Citizen Complaints if the
Citizen Complaint is filed anonymously or the accuser
wishes to have the Judge Advocate prosecute. He/she
ensures CCs are following constitution, code of laws,
and court procedures guidelines.
3. Public Defender - Acts as Chief Attorney for the
accused, unless the accused wishes otherwise.
Ensures the accused understands his/her rights and the
accusation.
Article G. The Citizens make up the General Assembly. The General
Assembly is tasked with the creation of laws and leading
the elected officials. After a law is created or changed
by the citizenry, it is presented to the Judiciary to
ensure it is in the correct format and does not violate
the constitution.
Article H. No person shall hold multiple positions of leadership
(Strategic, Tactical, Judiciary, or Deputy) simultaneously,
nor shall have more than one accepted nomination at the
commencement of the general election.
1. All elected positions shall have a fixed term of one
month.
2. Each position will be granted to the candidate
receiving the largest number of votes in that election.
In the event of a tie between two or more front
runners, a runoff poll shall be opened between those
candidates only. This poll shall run for 2 days, and
be repeated as often as needed to resolve the tie.
3. All Strategic and Tactical positions shall have a
deputy. The Deputy will be permitted to conduct the
affairs of the office as directed, or during a planned
Absence of the elected official. If no instructions
have been posted for an office within 24 hours of the
upcoming Game Session, the deputy for that office may
post the official instructions for the office.
3. The Judiciary does not use deputies. In the event of
an Absence, a pro-tem justice(s) may be appointed by
the Chief Justice (or Judge Advocate if the Chief
Justice if absent) and confirmed by the President and
the remaining justice if not also absent. If both the
Chief Justice and the Judge Advocate are absent, the
Public Defender may appoint pro-tems to the other
seats, with Presidential approval.
4. The President will appoint a citizen to any Vacant
office. If a deputy exists for that office, the
President must appoint that citizen. This appointment
may be challenged by any citizen by that citizen
posting a confirmation poll within 24 hours of the
appointment.
Article I. Elected officials must plan and act according to the Will
of the People. The Will of the People will be determined
through discussions and polls.
Article J. All irreversible game actions must progress during a
scheduled game session while reversible game actions
(i.e. build queues) that adhere to legal instructions can
be prepared offline before the scheduled game session.
1. An instruction thread must be created at least 3 days
before the scheduled turnchat.
a. All official instructions must be posted in the
current instruction thread. Instructions must be
clear and defined.
b. Officials must post their instructions at least
one hour before the game session. Offcials may
make changes to their instructions up to an hour
before the game session, so long as those changes
are clearly noted.
2. The Designated Player shall be charged with the creation
of a date and time for all gameplay sessions.
a. The DP must specify when scheduling the gameplay
session (or when posting the TCIT) whether it will
be an online or offline gameplay session.
b. Any citizen may create a confirmation poll if they
disagree with any particulars for a scheduled game
session. Any such poll must run for at least 24
hours and be considered final at the start of the
scheduled game session.
Article K. The Constitution, laws and standards of Japanatica can
never be contrary to the rules and regulations of the
Civfanatics forums. Moderators may veto any such
constitutional amendments, laws or standards.
Article L. Commission of any game action by any person other than the
Designated Player while carrying out their duties that is
not instantly reversible without reloading the save is
strictly forbidden.
1. Exception: Determining options in the renegotiation of
Peace agreements requires an action of acceptance or war
to exit the bargain screen. This may be done but the game
must be immediately closed without saving.
Article M. All elected/appointed officials are charged with the duty
to post enough information for the citizens to make a
informed decision. This includes information from the save,
discussions, and past polls. Any citizen of the demogame
may demand an official to supply more information within
their area. A elected official may appoint a citizen to do
this task for them.
1. Each Minister shall post a basic department update,
every turnchat, inside of there respective Ministry
thread. This update must include information about the
progress of the minister and their respective duties.
friendship, cooperation, and pride, establish this Constitution of our
beloved country. We uphold the beliefs that each citizen must have an
equal voice in the government and ruling of our country, that
government itself is a construct of and servant to the people, that
rules, regulations, and laws should be established to facilitate the
active participation of the people and to make possible the dreams and
desires of the citizens.
Article A. All Civfanatics Forum users who register in the Citizen
Registry are citizens of our country. Citizens have the
right to assemble, the right to free movement, the right
to free speech, the right to a fair and speedy trial, the
right to representation, the right to name units (within
the naming convention), the right to request an
investigation into possible violations of law and the
right to vote.
Article B. Governing rules shall consist of these Articles of the
Constitution, any amendments that follow and the Code of
Laws. No rule shall be valid that contradicts these
Articles.
Article C. The government will consist of four branches: Strategic
Branch, Tactical Branch, Judicial Branch, and the General
Assembly,
Article D. The Strategic Branch consists of the President, the Vice
President, and the Consuls. The Consuls, as listed below,
are in tasked with deciding on the broader picture of how
Fanatannia will operate.
1. President - Leads discussions crossing over multiple
areas of different Consuls. He/she will also decide on
any strategic tasks not designated to another consul
in this constitution. The President is the primary
designated player. He/she has the following
responsibilities, and may appoint a citizen to oversee
a responsibility: Naming of Cities and Units,
Elections, and Polling Standards. These appointed
officials remain in office until removed by a
President. The President also leads discussion on how
to use military and scientific great leaders.
2. Vice President - Assistant to the President. He/she may
take over the President's tasks when the President is
absent. If the President should be removed from office
for any reason the Vice President will then take the
position of President and appoint a Vice President.
The Vice President must be approved by a majority of
the consuls, if the Vice President is appointed mid-term.
3. Consul for Domestic Policy - Oversees long term
settlement, long term worker plans, and long term city
development objectives. Plans government switches.
4. Consul for External Policy - Oversees long term planning
of policy regarding other nations. This includes
military plans, long term foreign affairs, and long term
trading goals.
5. Consul for Cultural Policy - Monitors culture. Pushes
for culture improvements. Fits science and religious
improvements into the big picture. Plans wonder
strategy.
6. Consul for Resources and Technology Policy - Decides on
long term tech queues, long term resource policies,
long term fiscal policies.
Article E. The Tactical Branch consists of the the officials in charge
of micromanagement of the game, within the boundaries of
the Strategic Branch's policy. The Tactical Branch consists
of the officials below.
1. Commander of Armed Forces - Micromanages the military
operations against foreign countries and unit
(excluding worker, settler, and non-military transport)
movements.
2. Director of Commerce - Decides on foreign affairs and
trading. Sets exact tech queue. Manages budget. Adjusts
slider and approves/denies requests from leaders
regarding the use of gold. Also decides on espionage
missions.
3. Director of Infrastructure - Controls the worker
actions. Reviews requests from governors about worker
requests and accepts/denies these.
4. Director of Expansion - Decides on where to settle with
settlers. The Director of Expansion also oversees the
creation of provincal boundaries. Controls movement of
settlers and settler carrying transports.
5. Governors - Each Governor shall determine any policies
and procedures needed to carry out their duties.
Governors are responsible for the care, management,
use of the cities, and use of lands of a province
through the setting of build queues, allocation of
laborers on tiles, population rushes and drafting of
citizen soldiers.
Article F. The Judiciary or Judicial Branch is tasked with upholding,
defending, and interpreting the laws of Fanatannia. The
Judiciary also upholds the rights of all citizens. The
Judiciary may create Judicial Procedures which define how
the Judiciary will operate. These procedures must be
approved by 2/3 of the justices. These procedures are lower
than the Constitution and Code of Laws, so they must be
within the boundaries of the constitution. The Chief
Justice, Judge Advocate, and Public defender make up the
Judiciary.
1. Chief Justice - Organizes and heads the affairs and
discussions of the court. May take place of other
Justices if there is no pro-term justice.
2. Judge Advocate - Prosecutes Citizen Complaints if the
Citizen Complaint is filed anonymously or the accuser
wishes to have the Judge Advocate prosecute. He/she
ensures CCs are following constitution, code of laws,
and court procedures guidelines.
3. Public Defender - Acts as Chief Attorney for the
accused, unless the accused wishes otherwise.
Ensures the accused understands his/her rights and the
accusation.
Article G. The Citizens make up the General Assembly. The General
Assembly is tasked with the creation of laws and leading
the elected officials. After a law is created or changed
by the citizenry, it is presented to the Judiciary to
ensure it is in the correct format and does not violate
the constitution.
Article H. No person shall hold multiple positions of leadership
(Strategic, Tactical, Judiciary, or Deputy) simultaneously,
nor shall have more than one accepted nomination at the
commencement of the general election.
1. All elected positions shall have a fixed term of one
month.
2. Each position will be granted to the candidate
receiving the largest number of votes in that election.
In the event of a tie between two or more front
runners, a runoff poll shall be opened between those
candidates only. This poll shall run for 2 days, and
be repeated as often as needed to resolve the tie.
3. All Strategic and Tactical positions shall have a
deputy. The Deputy will be permitted to conduct the
affairs of the office as directed, or during a planned
Absence of the elected official. If no instructions
have been posted for an office within 24 hours of the
upcoming Game Session, the deputy for that office may
post the official instructions for the office.
3. The Judiciary does not use deputies. In the event of
an Absence, a pro-tem justice(s) may be appointed by
the Chief Justice (or Judge Advocate if the Chief
Justice if absent) and confirmed by the President and
the remaining justice if not also absent. If both the
Chief Justice and the Judge Advocate are absent, the
Public Defender may appoint pro-tems to the other
seats, with Presidential approval.
4. The President will appoint a citizen to any Vacant
office. If a deputy exists for that office, the
President must appoint that citizen. This appointment
may be challenged by any citizen by that citizen
posting a confirmation poll within 24 hours of the
appointment.
Article I. Elected officials must plan and act according to the Will
of the People. The Will of the People will be determined
through discussions and polls.
Article J. All irreversible game actions must progress during a
scheduled game session while reversible game actions
(i.e. build queues) that adhere to legal instructions can
be prepared offline before the scheduled game session.
1. An instruction thread must be created at least 3 days
before the scheduled turnchat.
a. All official instructions must be posted in the
current instruction thread. Instructions must be
clear and defined.
b. Officials must post their instructions at least
one hour before the game session. Offcials may
make changes to their instructions up to an hour
before the game session, so long as those changes
are clearly noted.
2. The Designated Player shall be charged with the creation
of a date and time for all gameplay sessions.
a. The DP must specify when scheduling the gameplay
session (or when posting the TCIT) whether it will
be an online or offline gameplay session.
b. Any citizen may create a confirmation poll if they
disagree with any particulars for a scheduled game
session. Any such poll must run for at least 24
hours and be considered final at the start of the
scheduled game session.
Article K. The Constitution, laws and standards of Japanatica can
never be contrary to the rules and regulations of the
Civfanatics forums. Moderators may veto any such
constitutional amendments, laws or standards.
Article L. Commission of any game action by any person other than the
Designated Player while carrying out their duties that is
not instantly reversible without reloading the save is
strictly forbidden.
1. Exception: Determining options in the renegotiation of
Peace agreements requires an action of acceptance or war
to exit the bargain screen. This may be done but the game
must be immediately closed without saving.
Article M. All elected/appointed officials are charged with the duty
to post enough information for the citizens to make a
informed decision. This includes information from the save,
discussions, and past polls. Any citizen of the demogame
may demand an official to supply more information within
their area. A elected official may appoint a citizen to do
this task for them.
1. Each Minister shall post a basic department update,
every turnchat, inside of there respective Ministry
thread. This update must include information about the
progress of the minister and their respective duties.
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classical_hero
In whom I trust
It seems like we started this game too early.
Black_Hole
Deity
- Joined
- Jan 4, 2004
- Messages
- 3,424
so we are gonna change the constitution all in one poll?
well according to the constitution, we need only 51% if it reaches census or 66.66% if it doesnt.
well according to the constitution, we need only 51% if it reaches census or 66.66% if it doesnt.
