[C3C] COTM153 Ottomans, Regent -- Spoilers

[Più Freddo]

Industrial Times or Game Submitted

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[Green Bear]

410 BC
War with Austria

310 BC
Discover Theology
Iznik builds the Great Lighthouse
Peace with Austria

270 BC
War with Iroquois
Meet Byzantines

150 BC
Meet Maya

30 BC
Meet Scandinavia

10 BC
Iroquois destroyed

90 AD
War with Austria

150 AD
Got a MGL. Want to build Forbidden Palace in Niagara Falls.
Austria destroyed
Discover Astronomy. Now are some rounds without reserach and then going for Military Tradition.

230 AD
Meet Japan

270 AD
Meet Carthage

340 AD
Declare war on Spain. Alliance with Byzantines for The Republic.

420 AD
The Byzantines are in my territory. Let them declare war on me.

440 AD
Military Tradition researched. Now research is down for a while.

460 AD
Let Persia declare war. Declare war on Rome. Alliance with Zulu.

520 AD
Peace with Spain

530 AD
Byzantines have destroyed the Spanish

540 AD
Persia and Zulu sign a peace treaty

550 AD
Let Zulu declare war on Persia
Let Zulu declare war on the Ottomans
Peace with Byzantines

600 AD
Peace with Rome. Let them declare war on Persia.

680 AD
Peace with Zulu

750 AD
The Romans have units in my territory. Let them declare war

810 AD
I have destroyed the Romans.

830 AD
War on Byzantines declared

880 AD
Peace with Byzantines

900 AD
War on Zulu declared
Zulu destroyed
War on Byzantines declared
Byzantines destroyed
Now the Ottomans control 65 % of the world
Time to build a lot of settlers and libraries

910 AD
Persia destroyed

930 AD
Free Artistry is researched. Research is now down till the end of the game. The Ottomans never reached the industrial time.

1330 AD
Cultural 100k vicory

 

[ignas]

That's a good date for this map. Can you give more details how did you build culture? Republic or Feudalism? I pretty much lost interest after seeing the map is not suitable for a quick 20 k culture win.

 

[Spoonwood]

There was a goody hut on the north shore on a peninsula and I have heard if you settle next to a hut you will get only good things, but I wanted my town right where the hut was.

If you have no military units and settle next to a hut, you cannot get barbarians.

 

[Bob Frank]

I killed off the Austrians and Iriqious. I really should have done what @Lanzelot did but I built a ton of Siphaphis and had fun with them. I razed a bunch of the Irqious cities but this was also a mistake, I would have benefited from the free population, but who can say no to free workers with no diplomatic consequences. by industrial ages I've met all I can meet, and am seriously dominating this game. but I really should have started colonizing the rest of the world. Too lazy

 

[Captain_Jack]

pretty much lost interest after seeing the map is not suitable for a quick 20 k culture win.

Ignas, what do you look for in the map to let you know if 20k is viable. And do you prefer to strive for that in your capital, or your second city?

 

[ignas]

Ignas, what do you look for in the map to let you know if 20k is viable. And do you prefer to strive for that in your capital, or your second city?

I would look for a shield rich start with some extra food, a civilization with an early Golden Age and a map with fast technology pace. This being a large map meant techs are more expensive and other civs hard to find which resulted in a slow tech pace. I almost always prefer capital (because of no corruption and extra culture) over the second city but in this game dedicated the 2nd city by the coast so I could get the Colossus.

Anyway, thanks for creating this map! It's an interesting one.

Culture buildings, if anyone is interested:

Temple 2630 BC
Pyramids 1225 BC
Library 1200 BC
Mausoleum 975 BC
Colossus 825 BC
Colosseum 800 BC

 

[r16]

will wait until the end of competition but then it also takes a lot of turns ...

 

[Green Bear]

That's a good date for this map. Can you give more details how did you build culture? Republic or Feudalism? I pretty much lost interest after seeing the map is not suitable for a quick 20 k culture win.

I never changed the type of state (Republic) after 1000 BC. After 150 AD (I got Astronomy then) I researched a little bit, but I got a lot of gpt, too. And after 930 AD there was no research. So I could take a lot of the gold for building settlers, cheap libraries and later universities. It was very easy to conquer the continent in the northwest and to build a lot of cities there with a gap of one or two tiles. So I had about 220 cities at the end of the game. I think if I had played a little bit more effective there would be a result before 1250 AD possible.

 

[Più Freddo]

In 610 BC, the Ottomans had just entered the Middle Ages. It was now time to
switch imperial expansion from churning out cities to conquering the
neighbours'.

The Austrian war started in 210 BC and ended with the destruction of Austria in
70 BC. The Iroquois War ensued in 30 BC ending in a cease-fire in 50 AD. The
Ottomans would destroy the Iroquois nation in 270 AD while earning their first
Military Great Leader. In the mean time, while attacking the Zulu on the Western
Continent, they had also started the build-up against the Northern Continent.
The Middle Ages were nearing their end and the Ottomans were two turns away from
discovering Military Tradition.

0470 BC Meet Rome
0210 BC War Austria
0210 BC PT/A Zululand v. Persia
0070 BC Destroy Austria
0030 BC War Iroquois
0050 AD Peace Iroquois
0090 AD Meet Carthage
0130 AD Embassy Carthage
0130 AD Meet Maya
0130 AD Embassy Maya
0130 AD War Maya
0130 AD PT/A Carthage v. Maya
0170 AD War Unhappiness
0190 AD PT/A Zululand v. Persia
0250 AD War Zululand War Happiness!
0250 AD PT/A Persia v. Zululand
0270 AD Destroy Iroquois
0270 AD Emerge Military Great Leader Orhan​

On the home front, Copernicus' Observatory was built in Edrine in 150 AD. In
spite of having The Colossus in Uskudar by the coast, I decided to stack up the
scientific Wonders in the Forbidden Palace city of Edrine. I did not know at
this time that I would be able to build an Iron Works in Uskudar.

At the dawn of Industrial Times, the Ottomans finally met the Scandinavians.
With the aid of a Sipahi victory in Mayan land, the Golden Age was made to
coincide with the Industrial Times in 370 AD. Steam Power could be learned at
this time through trade, and luckily, no one had gotten dangerous
ideas about Nationalism. Before the Golden Age came to a close, four more
Military Great Leaders had emerged. In Chichén Itza, The Pyramids was captured,
a boon for total score.

The Ottomans were now connecting Luxuries from all over their occupied lands and
after mopping up the Norhtern Continent sent their troops there over towards
Rome, which was at the same time attacked from the other side by the forces
leavning the Persian war.

0340 AD Meet Scandinavia
0370 AD Enter Golden Age
0370 AD Enter Industrial Times
0380 AD Emerge Military Great Leader Murad I
0450 AD PT/A Persia v. Zululand
0540 AD Emerge Military Great Leader Suleyman I
0550 AD Emerge Military Great Leader Selim
0570 AD Emerge Military Great Leader Mehmed II
0570 AD Exit Golden Age
0580 AD Destroy Japan
0600 AD Embassy Rome
0600 AD PT/A Zululand v. Rome
0600 AD War Persia War Happiness!
0600 AD War Rome​

Conquering the rest of the world was now a cake walk. The domination limit was
reached around 990 AD as the Byzantines were destroyed and only OCC Persia was
left as competition. In the mean time, the following Wonders had been
constructed on the home continent (I guess Newton's University came earlier):

0930 AD Build Hoover Dam
0940 AD Build The Internet
0940 AD Build Theory of Evolution
0980 AD Build SETI Program​

The Ottomans had used Universal Suffrage as a pre-build for the SETI Program in
order to be able to instead build Hoover Dam. Of course they had to make
assumptions for the timed pre-builds at the entry to Modern Times. Thanks to We
Love The King celebrations in all cities after the connection of the eighth
Luxury, it would have been possible to discover Flight in just four turns. This
extra research capability now had to be turned into cash instead. Bummer.

These were the diversion from regular four-turn research:

0 Computers
0 Medicine
0 Miniaturization
0 Rocketry
5 Atomic Theory
5 Combustion
5 Electronics
5 Flight
5 Refining
5 Space Flight
6 Astronomy
6 Education
7 Theology​

Space was reached in 1260 AD.

 

[Memento]

Nice game, but i missed the line.