COVID-19 virus thread (formerly Wuhan coronavirus)

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Apparently a simulation of a similar virus was made some months before the real outbreak and predicted about 60 millions deaths worldwide.

So, 0,008% of all us are doomed, do you hear me? Doomed!
 
Apparently a simulation of a similar virus was made some months before the real outbreak and predicted about 60 millions deaths worldwide.

So, 0,008% of all us are doomed, do you hear me? Doomed!
That is 0.008 of us, or 0.8% or 1 in 125. And I bet that does not include all the other people who will die when the health system is blocked up with coronavirus patients.
 
I’m old, old enough, older than, and even too old....but WTH!
 
That is 0.008 of us, or 0.8% or 1 in 125. And I bet that does not include all the other people who will die when the health system is blocked up with coronavirus patients.

I wonder how many older people end up getting infected with coronavirus because they're in the hospital because of no long-term care place to put them.
 
Hey, all I'm saying is that I don't think it's unreasonable to classify someone as "old" if they are eligible for the senior discount.

Well, that's not unreasonable I guess. I just got thrown off a bit by this whole 'this sixty year old man was going to the store for himself' bit...which I know wasn't you. I just couldn't help but be weirded out a bit. I mean, who the heck else is gonna go to the store for me? If I called one of my kids and suggested that I needed them to go to the store for me they'd laugh themselves sick.
 
Well, that's not unreasonable I guess. I just got thrown off a bit by this whole 'this sixty year old man was going to the store for himself' bit...which I know wasn't you. I just couldn't help but be weirded out a bit. I mean, who the heck else is gonna go to the store for me? If I called one of my kids and suggested that I needed them to go to the store for me they'd laugh themselves sick.

I guess it all depends more on personal health than age since there are 80 year olds that can still do everything for themselves and some people as young as their 50s that need assisted living.
 
If I called one of my kids and suggested that I needed them to go to the store for me they'd laugh themselves sick.

Good for your kids they do not live in a country where this is considered the proper thing to do

Hail to individualism !
 
Good for your kids they do not live in a country where this is considered the proper thing to do

Hail to individualism !

Me, and my kids, took care of my mom...when she needed it. Which wasn't at sixty, or even close to it. With me, my kids aren't even sure they are at the point where youth and fitness could overcome experience and treachery. I doubt that any one of them strongly believes they could whip me in a fight, much less believing that I need their help getting to the store.
 
Me, and my kids, took care of my mom...when she needed it. Which wasn't at sixty, or even close to it. With me, my kids aren't even sure they are at the point where youth and fitness could overcome experience and treachery. I doubt that any one of them strongly believes they could whip me in a fight, much less believing that I need their help getting to the store.

IDK how old you are.. or your kids

You say you are still vigorous... but if you were not, and your kids old enough, and living nearby ... what then ?
Would they not get some stuff for you when doing their own shopping ?
 
That is 0.008 of us, or 0.8% or 1 in 125. And I bet that does not include all the other people who will die when the health system is blocked up with coronavirus patients.
True, i am a bit slow in maths lately.
 
IDK how old you are.. or your kids

You say you are still vigorous... but if you were not, and your kids old enough, and living nearby ... what then ?
Would they not get some stuff for you when doing their own shopping ?

Well, the point is that I'm sixty, or at least close enough to it; I'll be 59 this year. Do you really think the typical person is no longer "vigorous" at sixty?

I was taking my mom to Costco when she was...seventy-five? Probably started taking her instead of her going herself when she was maybe seventy. She stopped going more because I finally convinced her that Costco was totally not the store she needed to shop at and she didn't want to go to a regular supermarket than because she couldn't.
 
China says 11,000+ infected.
 
Hey, all I'm saying is that I don't think it's unreasonable to classify someone as "old" if they are eligible for the senior discount.
I've been getting an AARP discount since I was 40. It is so nice to know I've been old since before my son was born.
Traditionally, I am just the right age, my parents are middle-aged, my grandparents are old, and my kids are children. This is true for whatever age I am.

Anyway, back on topic, the reason that almost half of the first 425 cases were over 60 could be related to the demographics of the people going to that market rather than suggesting that older people are more easily infected. I have no idea how old the people shopping at that market are, but when I look at people here in the grocery store, the average age looks pretty old, like easily over 60. Lots of older people use it as a place to socialize and kill time, and some of the assisted living places schedule trips to the store each day. Of course, I could just be shopping with the rest of the "old people," I guess.
 
It could also have to do with REPORTED cases. Younger folk aren't as apt to get actually diagnosed over a respiratory infection that they most likely considered to be "just a cold."
 
Here's an animation showing the 2019-nCoV confirmed cases by country timeline (WHO official data).
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That is a lot of cases in China.
 
More than once, when I play Plague Incorporated, I start in China. It's not until Madagascar closes that you know you cannot win
 
It's a little frightening how quickly the number in China goes up.
 
Hey, all I'm saying is that I don't think it's unreasonable to classify someone as "old" if they are eligible for the senior discount.
To my surprise, I'm eligible for the seniors' discount at various pharmacies. I'll be 57 in June. There's a property management company in town that gives a break in the damage deposit for tenants who are 50 and over.

If you think I'm going to get huffy and insulted (the way many women do if anyone dares to even hint that they're older than 40) when someone's offering me a 20% discount off my purchases, think again.

One of the things I learned about age from living with my grandparents for so many years is that it's pointless to get huffy and insulted about passing certain age-related social 'milestones.' It's going to happen no matter what, and complaining won't help. If you want fewer birthdays, move to Mars or Ceres. Your body won't care, but at least the calendar will give you lower numbers.

And elderly people are not some creepy alien species (so often during my school years, the reaction of kids to learning that I lived with my grandparents was "Ewww, isn't that weird?").


Over 20 years ago I belonged to a science fiction club at the local college. I was long over my own regular student days at that time, but a friend and I (she was a generation older) decided to audit some classes, just for fun and getting out of our respective houses. So that's how I finally ended up being able to take astronomy, classical and medieval history, one of the cultural geography courses that hadn't been offered earlier, and linguistic anthropology. The instructors didn't mind having 'mature students' in their classes, as there were times during the discussions that we had perspectives the younger students didn't. And we got to choose whether or not we wanted to do the assignments and exams (we weren't required to do them, and if we did, the instructors weren't required to mark them; I did the assignments in some classes but not in others).

One of the other reasons for doing this was social. We got together with some fellow science fiction fans and decided to form a club. That resulted in some fun times of gaming, parties, and other get-togethers. And one night at a meeting, my friend and I had to laugh. One of the women there was glum because it was her birthday soon, and she was complaining that she was getting OLD!!!. :( :cry: :run:

We asked her how old, and she whined, "I'm turning 30."

I told her, "I turned 30 years ago. It's not fatal." My friend, who was well over 50, just sat in her chair, giggling.
 
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