You don't see how smoking gives unhealthiness? I mean if you vaporize it, the health effects are pretty minimal, but lunging smoke is very carcinogenic (not to mention even worse for your heart/arteries) even filtered by a bong. It should be legal if cigs are by all means, but the only reason there arent more studies on the heart and lung consequences of smoking weed is due to its illegal nature in most areas.
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You don't see how smoking gives unhealthiness? I mean if you vaporize it, the health effects are pretty minimal, but lunging smoke is very carcinogenic (not to mention even worse for your heart/arteries) even filtered by a bong. It should be legal if cigs are by all means, but the only reason there arent more studies on the heart and lung consequences of smoking weed is due to its illegal nature in most areas.
cr0ws
Prince
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Yeah deeeerrr doesn't take a genious to figure that inhaling smoke is bad fer yer health. deeeeerrr even if it makes you feel sedated...deeeeerrrrrrrr
-Sweden: Cheap Furniture: Improvements and buildings half cost, though 25% each turn of a building/improvement breaking and disappearing.
-Israel: Promised Land: Every military unit is 200% more effective, though for each one built, you get a -5 attitude with each leader.
-Switzerland: Neutrality: You automatically get a +10 attitude from all leaders, but you also get a -10 attitude from all leaders.
-China: Made in China: Automatically get 3 trades routes upon meeting another civilization, though for each one you get +1 Anger and +1 Unhealthiness
-Russia: Spetsnaz: You'll never see them comi-
-Afghanistan: Hell-hole: Can never be conquered, though everything built (improvements/buildings) has a 50% chance of being destroyed every turn do to rebel forces
-North Korea: Best Korea: Every 10 turns, +20 happiness in all cities as your populace is convinced you'll win the game, though +10 anger afterwords as you didn't win the game
-Poland: Best of Both Worlds: +1 Attitude from all Western European Leaders, as you convince them that you're Western European, same with all Eastern European Leaders, this goes away with the invention of the internet and is instead replaced by +1 Anger in all cities, as they spend their days arguing where Poland is on CFC
-UAE: Boredom: 100% gold production in all cities, though this has no effect as all of it is wasted on stupid stunts out of boredom
-Israel: Promised Land: Every military unit is 200% more effective, though for each one built, you get a -5 attitude with each leader.
-Switzerland: Neutrality: You automatically get a +10 attitude from all leaders, but you also get a -10 attitude from all leaders.
-China: Made in China: Automatically get 3 trades routes upon meeting another civilization, though for each one you get +1 Anger and +1 Unhealthiness
-Russia: Spetsnaz: You'll never see them comi-
-Afghanistan: Hell-hole: Can never be conquered, though everything built (improvements/buildings) has a 50% chance of being destroyed every turn do to rebel forces
-North Korea: Best Korea: Every 10 turns, +20 happiness in all cities as your populace is convinced you'll win the game, though +10 anger afterwords as you didn't win the game
-Poland: Best of Both Worlds: +1 Attitude from all Western European Leaders, as you convince them that you're Western European, same with all Eastern European Leaders, this goes away with the invention of the internet and is instead replaced by +1 Anger in all cities, as they spend their days arguing where Poland is on CFC
-UAE: Boredom: 100% gold production in all cities, though this has no effect as all of it is wasted on stupid stunts out of boredom
Omega124
Challenging Fate
America: Shock and Awe: Every time you use a nuke or defeat the enemy when you already had a 3:1 or greater odds, the enemy will have an increasing chance to accept any peace offering
Persia: Charter of Human Rights: Cities assimilate immediately
Greece: 300 Spartans: Upon death while defending, units have a random chance to take the attacker down with them.
Egypt: Nile's Gift: Floodplains have no negative effect, rivers give an additional +3 food.
France: Field of (Crap, forgot the name, it was the place Attila the Hun was defeated, and similar last-stand battles took place there, and France won all of them): All units have a defence bonus in friendly territory proportionate to how much units are in a proximity to the capitol
Germany: Blood and Iron: Once Combustion is researched, all units cost half as normal; Armoured Units have +3 Attack
Russia: General Winter: All enemy units receive combat penalties and damage inside your territory
England: Act of Union: Both Conquered city states and cities of a dead civilization only on your continent will never rebel
Persia: Charter of Human Rights: Cities assimilate immediately
Greece: 300 Spartans: Upon death while defending, units have a random chance to take the attacker down with them.
Egypt: Nile's Gift: Floodplains have no negative effect, rivers give an additional +3 food.
France: Field of (Crap, forgot the name, it was the place Attila the Hun was defeated, and similar last-stand battles took place there, and France won all of them): All units have a defence bonus in friendly territory proportionate to how much units are in a proximity to the capitol
Germany: Blood and Iron: Once Combustion is researched, all units cost half as normal; Armoured Units have +3 Attack
Russia: General Winter: All enemy units receive combat penalties and damage inside your territory
England: Act of Union: Both Conquered city states and cities of a dead civilization only on your continent will never rebel
Louis XXIV
Le Roi Soleil
Best Ability Title, ever
Was it the Battle of Châlons by any chance?
Yes, or the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains/Fields.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ch%C3%A2lons
Greenday2272
Chieftain
-3 happiness because most atheists (or at least the ones I know) are smug b******s
who appear depressed or angry for most of their lives... anyways watever, no need to attack religion
- America: War on terror: Decisions made by The United Nations have no impact when fighting the Babylonians.
- Netherlands: Red Light District: +10% growth, +10 foreign trade routes in capital.
Foreign cities gets extra happiness.
- China: The fast and the furious: Wheeled units move at twice the speed, but workers get killed if they come too near.
- Japan: Seppuku: Randomly kills off your entire army during a war and make peace with all enemies for 10 turns.
- Greece: Body Odor: Increases the range of ZOC by 1.
- Netherlands: Red Light District: +10% growth, +10 foreign trade routes in capital.
Foreign cities gets extra happiness.
- China: The fast and the furious: Wheeled units move at twice the speed, but workers get killed if they come too near.
- Japan: Seppuku: Randomly kills off your entire army during a war and make peace with all enemies for 10 turns.
- Greece: Body Odor: Increases the range of ZOC by 1.
Greenday2272
Chieftain
-Sweden: Cheap Furniture: Improvements and buildings half cost, though 25% each turn of a building/improvement breaking and disappearing.
-Israel: Promised Land: Every military unit is 200% more effective, though for each one built, you get a -5 attitude with each leader.
-Switzerland: Neutrality: You automatically get a +10 attitude from all leaders, but you also get a -10 attitude from all leaders.
-China: Made in China: Automatically get 3 trades routes upon meeting another civilization, though for each one you get +1 Anger and +1 Unhealthiness
-Russia: Spetsnaz: You'll never see them comi-
-Afghanistan: Hell-hole: Can never be conquered, though everything built (improvements/buildings) has a 50% chance of being destroyed every turn do to rebel forces
-North Korea: Best Korea: Every 10 turns, +20 happiness in all cities as your populace is convinced you'll win the game, though +10 anger afterwords as you didn't win the game
-Poland: Best of Both Worlds: +1 Attitude from all Western European Leaders, as you convince them that you're Western European, same with all Eastern European Leaders, this goes away with the invention of the internet and is instead replaced by +1 Anger in all cities, as they spend their days arguing where Poland is on CFC
-UAE: Boredom: 100% gold production in all cities, though this has no effect as all of it is wasted on stupid stunts out of boredom
LOL on the UAE one because it describes my cousin exactly XDD (he lives in UAE)
Great thought about Afghani UA.
America : Excuse for war : Relations boost with European countries when fighting a 3rd world country.
Units receive 50% combat penalty & +100% maintenance cost when fighting Vietnam & Afghanistan in their territory.
no need to attack religion
I disagree.
Also most athiests are perfectly happy, the only sad thing is the realisation that you will die one day and no longer exist, however deluding yourself to believe otherwise won't make you any happier come the inevitable end.
I disagree.
Also most athiests are perfectly happy, the only sad thing is the realisation that you will die one day and no longer exist, however deluding yourself to believe otherwise won't make you any happier come the inevitable end.
So why do you think that almost every known civilization in the history of mankind has had some kind of belief system? Of course it will make you happier during life if you can manage to fool yourself that you are going to heaven someday. Also, atheism is just another religion, because believing in science is as stupid as believing in god. Our mathematical formulas may follow nature, but nature doesn't follow our mathematical formulas. Since the physical properties of the universe may change without a warning, it's impossible for us to ever explain it. The only religious view that actually makes any sense is agnosticism.
Athiesm is not a religion, thats just stupid,
Why have civilisations through time believed in some kind of a creator? Well thats simple, Human beings are capable of higher intellectual thought, unlike other animals on the planet, which is why you don't see Gorilla's worshipping a diety btw even though they are the closest thing to a Human, this increased intellect gives us the ability to question as apposed to other animals who are content to merely exist, and when the earliest Human civlisations and well tribes I suppose they would be called before true Civilisations even came around, begain to question their existence, why are we here, where did we come from, who made all this around us, obviously the Human race has never been content with simply not knowing, theories have been made over the eons to answer questions, and this is how religion started, to quote a film I find very intellectually interesting which is Man On Earth, "thier must be some big guy up there to have made all of this down here" Humans adopted religious beliefs to sastisfy thier questions, no other answers could be obtained unlike today with our scientific break throughs, we know how we came to exist for the most part, and an answer is better than no answer. Which is why it caught on so to speak, and the other reason it simply didn't vanish as a trend was that a Child who grows up to believe something to be true where no other evidence exists to say otherwise, will have no reason to ever disbelieve it. So Religious views kept going. Thankfully due to science sensible people stop believing in such tales of fantasy, as nice as ever lasting life is, it won't happen.
Also again, Agnostic is not a religious view, it's the same as Atheism only with a more scientific approach, e.g "I do not believe in a god but I have no evidence to prove one does not exist, even though it is very probable" Is a good phrase for an Agnostic to use, Athiests however just know for a fact that god does not exist, and they can only reason this in the same way as a religious person would which would be to say they have faifth on the matter. Which is why most people seen as Athiests are better described as Agnostic, not a lot of Athiests actually 100% gaurentee God does not exist, similarily they feel the same way about the Magic Tea pot that floats in space somwhere.
"Believing in science is as stupid as believing in god?"
Well thats got to be one of the dumbest comments on Earth, so believing in the theory of gravity is equal to believing in God is it? Do us a favour.
Well, I can honhestly say this has gone some ways off the topic, how about you retire now for de-railing the thread.
Religious Civ : Indoctrination, population gives -1 science each, I'm suprised these types of people ever advanced at all. "We don't need to invent archery, God made us with clubs, club's are all we should ever use"
Why have civilisations through time believed in some kind of a creator? Well thats simple, Human beings are capable of higher intellectual thought, unlike other animals on the planet, which is why you don't see Gorilla's worshipping a diety btw even though they are the closest thing to a Human, this increased intellect gives us the ability to question as apposed to other animals who are content to merely exist, and when the earliest Human civlisations and well tribes I suppose they would be called before true Civilisations even came around, begain to question their existence, why are we here, where did we come from, who made all this around us, obviously the Human race has never been content with simply not knowing, theories have been made over the eons to answer questions, and this is how religion started, to quote a film I find very intellectually interesting which is Man On Earth, "thier must be some big guy up there to have made all of this down here" Humans adopted religious beliefs to sastisfy thier questions, no other answers could be obtained unlike today with our scientific break throughs, we know how we came to exist for the most part, and an answer is better than no answer. Which is why it caught on so to speak, and the other reason it simply didn't vanish as a trend was that a Child who grows up to believe something to be true where no other evidence exists to say otherwise, will have no reason to ever disbelieve it. So Religious views kept going. Thankfully due to science sensible people stop believing in such tales of fantasy, as nice as ever lasting life is, it won't happen.
Also again, Agnostic is not a religious view, it's the same as Atheism only with a more scientific approach, e.g "I do not believe in a god but I have no evidence to prove one does not exist, even though it is very probable" Is a good phrase for an Agnostic to use, Athiests however just know for a fact that god does not exist, and they can only reason this in the same way as a religious person would which would be to say they have faifth on the matter. Which is why most people seen as Athiests are better described as Agnostic, not a lot of Athiests actually 100% gaurentee God does not exist, similarily they feel the same way about the Magic Tea pot that floats in space somwhere.
"Believing in science is as stupid as believing in god?"
Well thats got to be one of the dumbest comments on Earth, so believing in the theory of gravity is equal to believing in God is it? Do us a favour.
Well, I can honhestly say this has gone some ways off the topic, how about you retire now for de-railing the thread.
Religious Civ : Indoctrination, population gives -1 science each, I'm suprised these types of people ever advanced at all. "We don't need to invent archery, God made us with clubs, club's are all we should ever use"
Even though this is way off topic, I can't help but to respond. I am atheist. Not because science has 'proven' to me that there is no higher power, but because no religion has convinced me that there is one.
Your statement also turns a blind eye to the MANY scientific minds whom even today justify their research as means toward proving divine presence. Regarding your last point, I have always viewed agnostics as people to afraid to make a decision about their own beliefs, just on the off chance they are wrong, and have therefore damned themselves to eternal torment of some kind. Or those who haven't the courage to accept that their time is short, and once it's gone, it's gone forever.
To the OP, sorry I almost inevitably further derailed this otherwise excellent thread with more religion/anti-religion
bjbrains
Man of U-235
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That's not true at all. All science (by definition, I don't care what some people call it), is observation of nature and natural phenomena. Not believing in God is simply an assertion of non-belief due to a lack of evidence. If the laws of the universe do change, the correct thing to do is look for a cause rather than look to a supernatural (by definition, beyond perception) being.
In short: I don't believe in any supernatural beings (Why set up this God/no God separation when no one agrees on what supernatural forces do control our lives?) because there is no evidence of their existence. Belief in God is no more grounded in reality than a belief in a teapot floating around the sun. Both "could" be possible if we suspend all evidence and everything we do know about the universe, so why not?
P.S:
Just because we can't currently explain something, it does not follow that said thing is "unexplainable". Gravity was once "unexplainable".
Also, if there is some kind of supernatural "God" or "gods", then why can no one agree on what it is, how exactly it works, what effects it has, how it started, or even basic things like what "created" the world?
fdgsgds
Mustard Enthusiast
There is no need to argue against Atheism or religion. Both of us are stubborn, and how is it possible to convince the other that they're right? Just stop. We'd all be happier leaving eachother alone. I mean, it's like arguing over which is better: U.S.A. or Canada. Everyone will be patriotic for their own country. It's not worth fighting over.
I hate it when people have modded in Atheism as a civic or religion into Civ4, giving extra beakers. That's ridiculous. Einstein, the world's greatest scientific mind, was not an Atheist. In fact, Copernicus was a devout Catholic, but he was upset that the Church disapproved of his work.
UA for India (Population Growth, just like in normal Civ5) - Cannot Avoid Growth
I hate it when people have modded in Atheism as a civic or religion into Civ4, giving extra beakers. That's ridiculous. Einstein, the world's greatest scientific mind, was not an Atheist. In fact, Copernicus was a devout Catholic, but he was upset that the Church disapproved of his work.
UA for India (Population Growth, just like in normal Civ5) - Cannot Avoid Growth
Snoopaloop
King
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If the Civfanatics had its own playable country...
Thread Killers: City production is instantly halted and lost, when the citizens refuse to stop debating the existence of a higher deity.
Thread Killers: City production is instantly halted and lost, when the citizens refuse to stop debating the existence of a higher deity.
Your an Agnostic, many people think they are Athiest when they are actually Agnostic Athiests, mainly because the difference of meaning is slight, Agnostic doesn't mean "I don't know if theirs a god or not, I haven't made up my mind, I'm on the fence about it", That type of person would also be on the fence and undecided if they should be Agnostic too
, An Agnostic Athiest is someone who doesn't believe in God, but knows that God can't be proved or disproved. Its not someone who is undecided on the matter. Generally you can some it up as "I don't believe in God, but I can't prove he doesn't exist, even though it is very probable", Its a proper scientific way of thinking about Athieism.
Agnostic alone doesn't actually tell you much, the definition in the dictionary just goes something a long the lines of, "accepts that some things are unknown" which In my opinion is a pretty lame explanation of the term Agnostic. But I suppose this way you can use Agnostic to explain other things, Like "I am Agnostic about the Human brain" i.e "thier are some things that are unkown about the Human brain and I accept that"
Here is a good qoute stating that Agnostic doesn't mean uncertainty on something. Although it is one of the definitions, I think mainly pushed by Religious people, like the claims that Athiesm is a form of Religion, for political purposes,
"Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions."
This is not the main definition of Agnostic, this anyone who states they are Agnostic will probably mean the correct definition, which is "we accept that the answers to some claims are unkown", they should come up with something else to define someone who is undecided.. Fence-ism? perhaps
.If somebody just says "I'm Agnostic" then this doesn't have to be related to God as I said, so the correct term for any Agnostic Athiest is just that. Most Athiests are Agnostic too, really, Athiesm doesn't make much sense unless you use Agnosticism to get there, unless ofcourse you are indoctrinated into Athiesm, which isn't exactly a bad thing, because atleast this way you are being brainwashed into the truth as a child, which is another way of putting "Eductaion", but by not believing in God simply because you never had any reason to think otherwise would be Belief without proof, which goes against Agnostic thinking, which Modern society incourages, scientific thinking that is, so its kind of hard to grow up to be an Athiest rather than a Agnostic Athiest with a modern education.
