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Create your UA (funny)

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by Venereus, Aug 28, 2010.

  1. 12agnar0k

    12agnar0k Emperor

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    Your an Agnostic, many people think they are Athiest when they are actually Agnostic Athiests, mainly because the difference of meaning is slight, Agnostic doesn't mean "I don't know if theirs a god or not, I haven't made up my mind, I'm on the fence about it", That type of person would also be on the fence and undecided if they should be Agnostic too :p,

    An Agnostic Athiest is someone who doesn't believe in God, but knows that God can't be proved or disproved. Its not someone who is undecided on the matter. Generally you can some it up as "I don't believe in God, but I can't prove he doesn't exist, even though it is very probable", Its a proper scientific way of thinking about Athieism.

    Agnostic alone doesn't actually tell you much, the definition in the dictionary just goes something a long the lines of, "accepts that some things are unknown" which In my opinion is a pretty lame explanation of the term Agnostic. But I suppose this way you can use Agnostic to explain other things, Like "I am Agnostic about the Human brain" i.e "thier are some things that are unkown about the Human brain and I accept that"

    Here is a good qoute stating that Agnostic doesn't mean uncertainty on something. Although it is one of the definitions, I think mainly pushed by Religious people, like the claims that Athiesm is a form of Religion, for political purposes,

    "Agnosticism can be defined in various ways, and is sometimes used to indicate doubt or a skeptical approach to questions."

    This is not the main definition of Agnostic, this anyone who states they are Agnostic will probably mean the correct definition, which is "we accept that the answers to some claims are unkown", they should come up with something else to define someone who is undecided.. Fence-ism? perhaps :p.

    If somebody just says "I'm Agnostic" then this doesn't have to be related to God as I said, so the correct term for any Agnostic Athiest is just that. Most Athiests are Agnostic too, really, Athiesm doesn't make much sense unless you use Agnosticism to get there, unless ofcourse you are indoctrinated into Athiesm, which isn't exactly a bad thing, because atleast this way you are being brainwashed into the truth as a child, which is another way of putting "Eductaion", but by not believing in God simply because you never had any reason to think otherwise would be Belief without proof, which goes against Agnostic thinking, which Modern society incourages, scientific thinking that is, so its kind of hard to grow up to be an Athiest rather than a Agnostic Athiest with a modern education.
     
  2. 12agnar0k

    12agnar0k Emperor

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    Well convicing someone to stop believing in a delusional fantasy is hard, they believe it to be true, they demand evidence to stop believing, where no evidence can be found because of the nature of the delusion.
    Logic is the only cure, however, logical thinking is not something that can be forced onto someone suffering from delusion, it can be explained but it won't necessarily be absorbed.
    Logical thought is mostly aquired by a person on thier own, which is a step to leaving the god delusion.

    Einstein was born into his religion, as have most human beings that existed, even with logical thought, you won't necessarily stop believeing in God, however this is easier today because of scientific breakthroughs that Einstein himself helped to forge, .we now have alternate answers to creation, God is no longer the logical answer. Einstein theorised that the universe had a begging however he never could deduce how it happend, thus the only logical answer available to him, who created the big bang, well that would be god. It takes quantum mechanics and some other theories to try and theorise on it, but yet we still don't know everything (The Theory of Everything is still needed), however we know when the Universe was created and thus the time slot said god would have made it if indeed he/she/it did. Which is something I suppose in the path to prooving the god theory incorrect.

    I mean its like this, If you were told as a child that Father Christmas is real which I'm sure you were, if no one ever told you it was not true, and even if someone did, Father Christmas had created "The Christmas Brouchure" and in it it stated that anyone saying he didnt exist was going to never get presents again and burn in eternal hell fire and was obviously lying then you would have no reason to believe them, but say for simplicity sakes, no one ever told you he didnt exist infact everyone agrees that he does, would you still believe in Father Christmas? Yes you would, You tend to believe in the things taught to you, the only way to change this is to either question everything or be taught something else.
     
  3. ori

    ori Repair Guy Super Moderator

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    Moderator Action: Stop the off topic discussion - you are welcome to discuss your opinion of religion in the OFf-Topic subforum. I expect any non-civ related post to stop right here.
     
  4. Keipher

    Keipher Chieftain

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    Japan: "Animated Porn" -- With the discovery of Mass Media, -1 health and population, +15% science (driving factor in HD video, CG software, etc. research), +2 gold, -10% production, and +2 happiness in own cities; +1 culture in foreign cities.

    America: "Strong Right Arm" -- building the Playboy wonder results in +25% strength for melee units, +1 culture in foreign cities, +3 happiness per on city, with -25% science research. Bonuses multiplied x4 with the discovery of the Internet.
     
  5. Lillefix

    Lillefix I'm serious. You can.

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    American UA gives it three times as many resources, the units are twice as good, all buildings take half the time to make and are twice as good. All foreign relation are -10 because they are envious. The name of it should be "US #1"
     
  6. cr0ws

    cr0ws Prince

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    Yeah and US should have no culture effects and no borders since its rather hard to associate US culture in general. Oh and rename the game to The America, F*** Yeah!!! Game!
     
  7. Eagle Pursuit

    Eagle Pursuit Scir-Gerefa

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    Scotland: Liquid Courage: All units get a +25% combat bonus when Scotland has grains or sugar.
     
  8. Songkok

    Songkok Chieftain

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    America: American Uniqueness: Whenever entering into a research pact, there is a possiblity you get your tech in 30 turns instead of 20 turns. Because your research ally mis-understood your english spellings and measuring standards.
     
  9. Lyoncet

    Lyoncet Emperor

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    :goodjob:
     
  10. Vandraad

    Vandraad Chieftain

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    America: "The George Lucas Effect". Upon discovering Hollywood + Mass Media + Computers you get +5 gold, -4 Happiness and -5 culture with any foreign nation to whom you traded a Hit Movie because George Lucas decided to "improve" them.
     
  11. Stutz788

    Stutz788 Chieftain

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    Only +25%???
    You come here and say that to my face and see what you get.. Jimmy!! :D

    Scotland: Skirl o' The Pipes: All combat units are invincible. Must have Nationalism.

    Scotland: You want a fight, Do You?: All pop in Scottish Cities fight attacking units, +300% strength, +500% defense bonus, +100 happiness for City (for just being in a fight).

    Aw ra best
    Jock
     
  12. kyhistoryguy

    kyhistoryguy Chieftain

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    Japan - Anime - 50% culture output, 10% chance to culturally overtake any city of any civ you are trading with, automatically receive 50% of any extra gold from America with Mass Media
     
  13. Ramesses

    Ramesses Ruler. Visionary. Pimp.

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    Egypt: "Let My People Go" - When you produce a Great Artist ('cause there's no Great Prophets in V), he can be settled in the capital to grant all cities a major culture rate increase. However, there is a 10% chance that, upon spawning, that it will instantly vanish. 40 turns later, the following effects will take place over the next 11 turns, lasting for 1 turn each, in order:

    Water tiles will undergo a palette swap to red.
    Frog resources will appear, granting a penalty to tiles they are on.
    Major unhappiness from annoying bugs.
    Major unhappiness from annoying bugs again.
    Cow and Horse resources vanish, Pasture improvements are destroyed.
    Major unhappiness from annoying sores.
    Major unhappiness from annoying weather.
    Major unhappiness from annoying bugs AGAIN + 1 food lost from all farm tiles.
    Fog of war covers your entire empire.
    -1 Population in every city.
    One coast tile transforms into a desert tile.
     
  14. Eagle Pursuit

    Eagle Pursuit Scir-Gerefa

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    Maybe you'd like to here my idea for Scotland's UU:

    The Highlander. replaces Longswordsman
    One Highlander is as powerful as a Giant Death Robot, however their strength is inversely preportional to the number of Highlanders you have, ultimately resulting in a strength equal to a warrior when all iron is used up. Whenever two Highlanders end their turns on adjacent tiles, one is destroyed.
     
  15. Zechnophobe

    Zechnophobe Strategy Lich

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    Lanun - Can embark and move on same turn. +1 science, +1 food from water tiles.
     
  16. ilikepies

    ilikepies Warlord

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    Germany: Oktoberfest! Once you reach the medieval era, happiness is doubled and half of your units cannot move due to intoxication.

    America: Peacekeepers- Airstrikes and missiles do not count towards war weariness or diplomatic relations.

    China: The Great Leap Forwards- When Assembly Line is unlocked, you lose population in all of your cities and become unable to build factories for another 50 turns.

    Japan: Super Happy Ultimate Battle- Giant Death Robots build 100% faster.
     
  17. poom3619

    poom3619 Ping Pang Poom!

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    Siam- Apberry Addiction. : When any civ have made "Iphone" or "Blackberry". They will drain 8 - 10 gold from Siam

    Siam - Japan-Korea Addiction : Japan and Korea receive +2 attitude from Siam and can't give Hit Movie and Hit Music to Siam because Siam alway have it.

    Siam - Wrongly-rated Soap opera : When reseached Mass Media. Every city receive +3 Happiness -30% :hammers: -50% :science:

    Siam - Best of SE-Asia : Whenever siamese think they are best nation in Southeast asia. -80% :hammers: -100% :science: for 5 turn. Giving chance for other nation to advance.

    Siam - Panda Addiction : When China giving any animal food source to Siam. Naresuan Elephant will ride Panda instead.
     
  18. Terrance888

    Terrance888 Discord Reigns

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    China's Masses
    Each population point counts quintuple for drafting, taxes or any other effect.
     
  19. Greyfield

    Greyfield Chieftain

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    Russia: Catherine's Favor - Mounted units move twice as fast.
     
  20. ilikepies

    ilikepies Warlord

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    China: Always A Part of China

    -10 relations with the Lhasa, Hong Kong, and Taipei city states, but when they are re-annexed to your glorious people's republic, you do not suffer unhappiness or relations penalties with other leaders or city-states.
     

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