King of Camelot
Camelot's King
Since I really don't follow a religon, or believe in God for that matter. I also believe in science. So I vote for evolution.
Creation vs. Evolution
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No I didn't mean it like that.
I meant that every single scientific theory ever is based on evidence. Not proof. We see it as being that if enough evidence exists a theory is proved. But as in a murder case the evidence may be circumstantial.
I was being pedantic, and saying we could argue about this till the cows come home and still not have changed each others mind, as the only absolute proof in the universe is mathematical proof.
Of course there is room for dinosaurs and plate movement in creationism.
I brought your comments down on myself though for not rereading my previous post, after having written it, to see it was well worded.
EDIT: This post is in response to Becka's last post. (I believe in evolution, even though it hasn't been proved "beyond reasonable doubt")
I meant that every single scientific theory ever is based on evidence. Not proof. We see it as being that if enough evidence exists a theory is proved. But as in a murder case the evidence may be circumstantial.
I was being pedantic, and saying we could argue about this till the cows come home and still not have changed each others mind, as the only absolute proof in the universe is mathematical proof.
Of course there is room for dinosaurs and plate movement in creationism.
I brought your comments down on myself though for not rereading my previous post, after having written it, to see it was well worded.
EDIT: This post is in response to Becka's last post. (I believe in evolution, even though it hasn't been proved "beyond reasonable doubt")
Switch625
I don't care.
Voted "other" as I believe both are valid. I think the Fezzie Monk summed up my belief in a nutshell.
Orioles3386
M. .. .. .. .. .. .. .
I voted creation. As far as I'm concerned there really is no such thing as proof, so I won't try to prove creation to anyone and I wont be convinced by anyone trying to prove evolution. I base my beliefs on faith, not on proof or evidence.
ok....thats the end of my story.....and my first and last post in this thread.
ok....thats the end of my story.....and my first and last post in this thread.
FearlessLeader2, I am abstaining from this one as the last went nowhere. The last post I read was an utterly ridiculous exchange about the Shroud of Turin fairy tale, and this one is surely fated to degenerate as the last one did.
starlifter
Deity
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Creation.
One will find that things can evolve, but things can't evolve from nothing. Something created that which is.
PS, The 2 terms are not mutually exclusive.
One will find that things can evolve, but things can't evolve from nothing. Something created that which is.
PS, The 2 terms are not mutually exclusive.
amadeus
Bishop of Bio-Dome
Creation. I believe in God and the Lord Jesus.
Richard III
Duke of Gloucester
Both.
Evolution clearly happened, but when you start to ask questions like "what was there in the void before the big bang, nothing?" and you see that science has its limits, so I take the convenient (and somewhat guardedly faithful, I suppose) view that the science we understand must have been set in motion by God. The flukes are too ridiculous otherwise.
R.III
Evolution clearly happened, but when you start to ask questions like "what was there in the void before the big bang, nothing?" and you see that science has its limits, so I take the convenient (and somewhat guardedly faithful, I suppose) view that the science we understand must have been set in motion by God. The flukes are too ridiculous otherwise.
R.III
philippe
FYI, I chase trains.
EVOLUTION!
God is a myth
God is a myth
Lab Monkey
Peace thru ultraviolence!
There is room for creationism in evolution. The argument could be that after the dinosaurs were wiped out, God kciked Adam and Eve out of Eden and said, "Right, there you go, there's no more big lizards to eat you, start breeding."
Or an equivalent thereof.
Or an equivalent thereof.
CurtSibling
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Egad, not this one again!
Like a dinosaur from 65 million years ago,
this ancient and unresolvable thread hath risen! Beware!
My 2 pences worth;
Faith and Fact are two very different things.
And both can produce very different conclusions.
This is all I am saying on this thread, Evolution makes more sense to me.
But who knows for sure?
No-one!
Like a dinosaur from 65 million years ago,
this ancient and unresolvable thread hath risen! Beware!
My 2 pences worth;
Faith and Fact are two very different things.
And both can produce very different conclusions.
This is all I am saying on this thread, Evolution makes more sense to me.
But who knows for sure?
No-one!
Akka
Moody old mage.
Evolution is as obvious as gravitation.
So evolution.
Now, I don't discard the possibilty of God being the one who made the universe. But life and evolution can happen on their own by just following physics. So if God exists, I just consider Him being the one that created the rules of physics.
So evolution.
Now, I don't discard the possibilty of God being the one who made the universe. But life and evolution can happen on their own by just following physics. So if God exists, I just consider Him being the one that created the rules of physics.
I would have thought evolution is self-evident, and like all good theories it is extremely simple and gives rise to complex outcomes.
And, by the way, evolution IS a theory, but many people do not realise that theories can NEVER be proven, only disproven. So to say that the theory of evolution has been proven is a non-sequitur.
And, by the way, evolution IS a theory, but many people do not realise that theories can NEVER be proven, only disproven. So to say that the theory of evolution has been proven is a non-sequitur.
If it were proven, it would no longer be a theory.
Myself, I lean toward evolution, because of all the evidence. I see no need for a "magic wand" as it were. My faith allows me to believe God could have done it as described in the Old Testament, but I have trouble disbelieving the evidence before me.
The best rationalization I can make in my mind is: yes, God created us, and He used evolution to do so.
CurtSibling
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None of you really know the answer.
Science has answers but is limited by our imagination...
Faith gives hope but cannot really answer a maths question...
Both sides have flaws...
I have room for everyones opinion...
'God' could be a big alien?
We might be an a cosmic experiment?
Perhaps Darwin was an alien?
I think we could have been caused by freak chemicals brought
to earth via asteroid, billions of years ago...
Anyway!
You are all mere humans...
Like ants confronted with a electronic device, we can only wonder what is going on...
Science has answers but is limited by our imagination...
Faith gives hope but cannot really answer a maths question...
Both sides have flaws...
I have room for everyones opinion...
'God' could be a big alien?
We might be an a cosmic experiment?
Perhaps Darwin was an alien?
I think we could have been caused by freak chemicals brought
to earth via asteroid, billions of years ago...
Anyway!
You are all mere humans...
Like ants confronted with a electronic device, we can only wonder what is going on...
Damien
Emperor
Yes,it has.About 8 months,it was discovered that there's no missing link.It doesn't exist.
I am confused now.
