Crises of the New World Order

[Ohwell]

Preident Ohwell, all my engineers were carrying out tasks this turn, so I will send one to replace Colombo next turn.

Replace? Replace Colombo? Pah! You cannot replace thousands of people.

 

[jamesjkirk]

Before I play my turn, do China and India accept my offer of a tech-for-tech trade? Also how do China and India feel about the European proposal concerning Taiwan?

 

[Ohwell]

I need some time about the techs. I think Taiwan should remain in Chinese hands, though not without penalty. I like the idea of de-militarizing the island.

 

[jamesjkirk]

I'm somewhat beholden to both ideas, since one was mine and I get the island in the other one

 

[mordhiem]

How about China leaves Taiwan empty and another nation has a unit placed in a square next to Taiwan? If China makes another unadvisable move then Taiwan is captured from them. If they play nice, they have nothing to fear, since if the 'police' country plays foul, then the rest of the world will be outraged.

 

[Pavlov]

Well heck that idea is okay with me too, I'm a positive fella.

 

[jamesjkirk]

Peace Envoy sets out for Tehran

Jets Move to Pound Chutchi Rebels in Far-East Siberia

 

[jamesjkirk]

Perhaps we should put these proposals before the Security Council for official votes.

 

[Eivind IV]

I don't like the idea of police unit stationed at the island. The people of Taiwan would starve and then go out in idsorder. If this proposal goes out to the Security Council, China will veto the proposal.

But China would without any problems demilitarize the island and keep military units away from Taiwan. If you can trust me on this just post a YES, and then agree to the proposal.

 

[Pavlov]

But the police unit would be placed on jungle, which doesn't give any food. Taiwan can get food from the ocean.

 

[Eivind IV]

China has already sent Engineers on their way to remove all the jungle on the island. The people of Taiwan is already starving, and the area which is coverd with jungle today must be irrigated to prevent a tragic famine.

China will stand firm on this, to protect the people of Taiwan.

Chinese forces are also ordered away from the island, leaving the city empty of military units (that means that civilians and engineers can stay on the island).

 

[Pavlov]

I'm afraid that's not enough for me. I am willing to send the needed food convoys to allow a "policeunit" to be stationed on the island. I insist.

 

[Ohwell]

Why not have America keep a transport with an infantry unit nearby? Like not 3 squares away but a bit more. If there is trouble you can take the island, and China will also be able to use the island to it's fullest.

 

[Ohwell]

Indian paratroops carry out an assault on an Iranian airbase; complete success reported

Taliban impostors invade Pakistan

Indian border patrol is ordered to fire upon the invading troops. We believe that this was a rogue general commanding the Eastern Alliance warlord group operating against the Taliban, and attempting to cause war between Afghanistan and India.

Indian Envoy Group Will Set Out

Our envoy will be sent out next month to calm the situation in Afghanistan.

 

[Pavlov]

*Allies liberate Ho Chi Minh City.

*According to several scientists, the risk for global warming is higher than ever. The president immediately pledged 1 bn dollars to fighting pollution. President Pavlov has promised that the current US pollution of 760 tons to 500 tons.


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Oh me oh my, China hasn't even demilitarized Taiwan.

I feel like a coward for not simply liberating Taiwan but I still believe that it can be solved through diplomatic channels.

Anyway, here's what I'm putting on the table:

*China can take Taiwan. (dammit) It must be demilitarized and open to US inspections at any time.

*China must NOT try to retake Ho Chi Minh City, or pursue any other kind of expansionism against the 'allies'.

*China will abstain from agressive expansionism.

*Demilitarization of South Korea, for the security of Japan.

Now, here's what you'll be getting:

*Peace with the USA.

Edit: Ohwell, Kirk, let me know how much that peace envoy-stuff cost so I can contribute.

 

[Eivind IV]

*China can take Taiwan. (dammit) It must be demilitarized and open to US inspections at any time.

*China must NOT try to retake Ho Chi Minh City, or pursue any other kind of expansionism against the 'allies'.

*China will abstain from agressive expansionism.

*Demilitarization of South Korea, for the security of Japan.

Now, here's what you'll be getting:

*Peace with the USA.

Define "agressive expansionism". Is agressive expanionism to:

US Strikes on Libya

or:

Pentagon confirmed that an operation had in fact taken place against military installations in Tripoli. State departement commented on the issue: "We hope that this will lead the way to a democratic government in Libya"

or to:

Croatia "Welcomed" into EU

or to:

Gaddafi Captured as Libyan Government Falls

or to:

EU forces captured Monrovia

or to:

After many lengthy disscoousions and conferences it was decided that it would be in the best interests of all parties that the countries of Czech Republic, Bulgaria and Hungary should enter the European Union

or:

Russia staged air strikes and used special forces to elminate several Unalligned bases operating uncomfortably close to the Russian frontier. The Communist stronghold in Ukraine is expected to fall shortly, and the Unalligned threat to Russia will be no more.

or:

Hong Kong ivades China, China counter invades

or:

Pakistani government falls!

Now the USMC lead a landing in Yemen to seize the Yemenese president and secure the capital

In a shock development, the dictatorship of Saddam Huessein in Iraq was violently overthrown by the militant National Salvation Movement, belived to be heavily funded by various European governments.

I could go on for hours...you get my picture.

 

[Eivind IV]

If this kind of expansionism is anything different from the Chinese expanionism you can call me Al...

I am beginning to get really tired of you taking the role as the "world police". (Yes, I'm thinking of you Pres. Pavlov)

Oh me oh my, China hasn't even demilitarized Taiwan

Yes I have!!!

 

[Pavlov]

*yawn* Okay, agressive expansionism is capturing cities without prior approval of the UN security council. As far as I can see, that list contains only one example regarding me and this behaviour.

But you know what, it doesn't matter, no other nation has subdued the bigger half of a frigging continent. And hey, the rules are different, the world isn't fair. Don't try to take the moral high ground, because while I allow you to debate the issue of Taiwan you invade Korea. While protest, you take Vietnam. While I turn the other cheek, for the sake of peace, you invade central Asia.

I'm running out of cheeks to turn. It's that simple, and the fact that "but mommy he did it too" doesn't change anything. Are you the chairman of the Peoples republic of China or a five year old kid?

There's your definition.

 

[Pavlov]

Originally posted by Eivind IV
If this kind of expansionism is anything different from the Chinese expanionism you can call me Al...

I am beginning to get really tired of you taking the role as the "world police". (Yes, I'm thinking of you Pres. Pavlov)

Yes I have!!!

As I said, the rules are different, live with it.

Tough luck.


Okay, my bad.

 

[Eivind IV]

It is a quite essential point I'm making here, and you are making fun of it ("but mommy he did it too", "Are you the chairman of the Peoples republic of China or a five year old kid?").

I don't feel that anything I 've done is anything different from what the others have done. I dont know why you have chosen me to pick on, but hey, I am tired of it. Mind your own business.

So tired that you can consider China at war with the US.

Tough luck!