CS declares war on itself

[Preytor]

I experienced a bug the other day, not sure if there's a specific place I should report it or not, but this looks like a good thread to place it in, so here it is:


It seemed as if the AI thought I was doing everything that Germany was doing before I ever met them.
Germany wiped out Japan (sharing the other continent), when I met Germany he was mad at me for my "wanton aggression against Japan".
Then Monaco declared war on Monaco, that got Germany mad at me too.
I had an excellent relation with Germany, then about three turns later they hated me.

In the end, everyone didn't like me cause they thought I was an aggressive warmonger (my word is worth nothing), though my actions where all peaceful as I went into this game planning on being a peace keeper (my plan ended up going out the window in the end).

Fortunately this bug wasn't game breaking, just game changing.

Attached are two images of Monaco declaring war and peace on itself.

ps. I was playing as United States.
pss. the screens look kinda fuzzy and the size is slightly off, idk why. Looks much better ingame..

 

[PieceOfMind]

Moderator Action: Moved to Bug Reports, and title added.

This might have been reported before.

 

[lschnarch]

I can confirm that CS have civil wars, declaring war and actually fighting against themselves.
This is post the .62 patch.

 

[PieceOfMind]

What do you mean when you say "actually fighting themselves"? Does this mean you see units of the same colour (forgive the expression, lol) fighting each other?

 

[The_J]

There's a similar report here, but in this other case the game crashes, so i guess it's another type of bug.

Stupid question: Are there maybe 2 Monacos around?
Like when civs get doubled when you play with more than 18 civs?

 

[Preytor]

Thank you PieceOfMind for moving the post to bug reports and adding a title.

There was only one Monaco. It declared war on itself and the rest of the world got mad at me, even though I had never met them at that point. Germany who I am guessing was protecting it got really pissed at me.

There's also the issue about Germany conquering Japan (before I ever met Japan) and being pissed at me for my wanton aggression against them (Japan).

The way the civs reacted/behaved was as if I was friends with Monaco and Japan before the stool hit the fan.

 

[Petek]

I think this is the same bug as the one The_J linked to. Ainwood eventually opened the save file and confirmed the bug.

@Preytor - Do you by any chance still have a save file? If so, was the game started with version 1.0.0.62 or an earlier version? Knowing that would help to determine whether or not the bug was fixed. Thanks.

 

[Preytor]

This game in particular was started after the 1.0.0.62 update.

 

[lschnarch]

What do you mean when you say "actually fighting themselves"? Does this mean you see units of the same colour (forgive the expression, lol) fighting each other?

Quite exactly. Units of the one and same city state fight against units of this city state.
Unfortunately, at the moment I have only a screenshot of the war declaration:

 

[The_J]

I hope whoever programmed this is seriously embarrassed about his own work.

 

[Skwink]

Am I the only one who finds this really funny?

 

[PieceOfMind]

Quite exactly. Units of the one and same city state fight against units of this city state.
Unfortunately, at the moment I have only a screenshot of the war declaration:

That isn't 'quite exactly' what I asked.

I asked if can you see the actual units fighting each other.

Anyway, it looks like this is mainly an interface bug. As far as I can tell, there aren't actually two Monacos (Florence in your example). Please correct me if wrong.

 

[lschnarch]

That isn't 'quite exactly' what I asked.

I asked if can you see the actual units fighting each other.

Anyway, it looks like this is mainly an interface bug. As far as I can tell, there aren't actually two Monacos (Florence in your example). Please correct me if wrong.

What do you mean by "fighting each other"?

Quite exactly. Units of the one and same city state fight against units of this city state.

Furthermore, if there aren't two Florences, then how do you come to the conclusion that "it is mainly an interface bug"?

To me it seems that Florence is declaring war on itself, proven by the fact that units of Florence are fighting against units of Florence.
I wouldn't call this "an interface bug".

 

[PieceOfMind]

Can you upload a save of it happening? What I'm asking, is do you see the actual combat animations between units of the same colour (that belong to the same city state)?

Can you at least provide a screenshot of it?

All you've provided is evidence of a notification icon that is obviously pointing to something going wrong.

 

[Preytor]

Am I the only one who finds this really funny?

While I was displeased with the outcome, yes, I too found it funny.


If the unit were fighting each other or not, I do not believe this was simply an interface bug. Given the fact that the other Civs thought it was me attacking Monaco, not Monaco attacking Monaco, and I had never met Monaco...
That along with the Civs thinking I had attacked Japan, yet I had never met them, Germany had conquered them before I had met them.

Oddly Monaco declares war on Monaco, and Japan doesn't declare war with Japan (unless I missed it).

I suggest considering that there may be some link to the Civs thinking I was agressive toward Monaco and Japan.

 

[PieceOfMind]

It would be really helpful I think, if we could get a savegame of this bug. Ideally an autosave from the turn of or the turn before the notification icon appears.

 

[Petek]

The save game in the link upthread is the same bug, as far as I can see. You do need the Deluxe Edition to open the file, however. I played several turns without crashing. However, I wasn't able to find any units belonging to Genoa engaging in combat between themselves. I attached two screenshots. The first shows that Genoa declared war on Genoa. The second shows (I think) that Sparta is a puppet of Genoa. Perhaps this has something to do with the problem. Also, Genoa is both allied and at war with Greece. It would be nice to have a save game from the Standard Edition to illustrate the issue.