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Glad to see that you like them, and sorry for uploading some of them twice into the album.

Anyways, I saw this:
Unassigned: Albania, Croatia, Jerusalem, Garamantes, Macedonia, Moldavia, The Seljuqs, Yugoslavia, Vietnam
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I'd put Macedonia and Moldavia into the East European group, they really don't seem to fit anything else.
Seljuqs belong into the steppes in my opinion, while it is true that they were very different in many ways from the other civs in that category, I think that from a gameplay perspective they would benefit from this.
Yugoslavia is weird, they kind of seem like they'd be in the same group as the Soviets on one hand.
But on the other hand putting Tito in the same group as Stalin and Mussolini feels wrong.

Vietnam should be in the same group as China in my opinion, they seem to fit there the best.

Personally I think that the Garamantes belong into the sub Saharan group even though they were desert dwellers. They seem to fit there better than into the Mesopotamic/Arabic or even the Graeco-Roman group.

Albania should go into the eastern in my opinion, just can't see them as anything else.

Croatia should go into the eastern group, because of Hungary in my opinion. Croatia spent a long time in a union with Hungary o it would be very logical, on top of that they are Slavs.

No clue on Jerusalem.
 
Ah, thanks. I'll make these amendments, and finish the list off too.
 
OP updated with a full list of civs (please let me know if I've forgotten any). Some shared traits have been re-arranged, notably Nomadic civs have had Nomadic replaced (Pacific receives Administrative, Steppe civs receive Administrative and Tribal Americans receive Defensive). This is because designing a Nomadic trait would require a bit of dark magic and commitment to balance that I couldn't attempt and don't have (as anything beyond "can't found cities" or "can move cities around" is underwhelming). Also, Totalitarian civs are now Militaristic instead of Expansive and Western-European civs are Commercial, Industrious, Maritime; making them much closer to their Colonial counterparts, who are Commercial, Industrious, Militaristic.
 
Looking at the updated list now.
Seems like you confirmed that some Civs are in development Genoa, Milan, Naples, Muscovy, Novgorod, Han, Ming, Qin, Qing, Tang. (The Chinese dynasties were already confirmed but I remember there only being 4 of them).

Also, I am not too familiar with Inuit history, but when I look at:
Fascist Italy, Inuit, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia
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One of them clearly stands out.
 
Actually, the Qin are LastSwords. Otherwise, the rest are mine in development. Though I've mentioned all but Muscovy and Serbia scattered throughout my main thread (although you've glossed over Bulgaria, Romania and Serbia, but that's probably because they've been done by multiple authors already). Technically, Great Britain as well (Victoria), and I've not put up my planned alternate leaders :p

There seems to be a predominant leaning toward Eastern Europeans civs somewhere, though. Someone needs to expand that Mandala list :)
 
I've been wondering; what's the difference between Scientific and Innovative. (Also why are the Inuit in the same category as Hitler and Stalin?)

Also you missed the Sámi! (Northern European I suppose, though I really wish I could stuff them in with the Tribal Americans)
 
If Sámi is coming soon, then I'll add them :D Although... where... They don't really fit the rest of the Northern Europeans so well. They'd actually make better sense in the Tribal American category, but that might be stretching the naming limits too far. EDIT: Glossed over your comment on the matter...

Innovative allows you to spend Culture on different things, Scientific is more scientific. Originally Innovative was going to be a wonder-focused trait, but graduated toward something a bit more unique. It may need a name change to make that clearer, though.

The Inuit of the future empire that they will establish that will control the world. But I forgot that I wasn't supposed to reveal those plans, so I'll have to put them somewhere more deception - like with the other Tribal Americans :p
 
JFD said:
There seems to be a predominant leaning toward Eastern Europeans civs somewhere, though. Someone needs to expand that Mandala list :)
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I'll go ahead and make the Sukhothai, Ayutthaya and Rattanakosin empires! :lol:

Perhaps Laos or Lanna; but I can't imagine adding any more than that without splitting someone up. I had hoped Indonesia would be in the Mandala group as well; though gameplaywise stuffing them in the Pacific group has always been more sensible.
 
sukritact said:
I'll go ahead and make the Sukhothai, Ayutthaya and Rattanakosin empires! :lol:
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At least a classical Vietnam to go with your map one day... :mischief:
 
JFD said:
If Sámi is coming soon, then I'll add them :D Although... where... They don't really fit the rest of the Northern Europeans so well. They'd actually make better sense in the Tribal American category, but that might be stretching the naming limits too far. EDIT: Glossed over your comment on the matter...
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Would you be amenable to just fudging it in this one instance? The traits for that group fit them to a T.
 
I've no problem with doing that.
 
Oh, you are doing Serbia, makes me kind of jealous tbh.
I remember reading something about you doing Bohemia in your thread once too, but I guess you scrapped that idea, huh?
Are you going to release the individual groups one by one like before or wait until you completed all of them?
Anyways, looking forward too the completed mod, not so much to the Inuit fascist uprising.
 
Didn't you nce reveal/imply that your collaborator on your China split (Jan?) was working on other non dynastic China-area civs like Qin, Manchu and Shu?
 
COF said:
Oh, you are doing Serbia, makes me kind of jealous tbh.
I remember reading something about you doing Bohemia in your thread once too, but I guess you scrapped that idea, huh?
Are you going to release the individual groups one by one like before or wait until you completed all of them?
Anyways, looking forward too the completed mod, not so much to the Inuit fascist uprising.
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I did, but for good reason, I assure you ;)

I'm not sure. The rate at which the mod will be finished should be faster than before. At the very most I'll release it in two parts - one where the shared traits are finished, and then update that with the unique group traits once they're all complete.

SuperWaffle247 said:
Didn't you nce reveal/imply that your collaborator on your China split (Jan?) was working on other non dynastic China-area civs like Qin, Manchu and Shu?
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Sukritact will be collaborating on the split to do the Shu. I've chosen to do the Qing instead of the Manchu, as I've decided against using Kangxi, leaving a Manchurian civ led by Kangxi a probability for other modders. I don't otherwise have any plans for the Qin. Qin Shi Huang's dynasty didn't really last, so it would be out of place in a Chinese Dynasties split.
 
Administrative is happiness related, whilst Philosophical is great person related - specifically, as the facilitator of a Great Philosopher unit, which can serve the role of any Great Person. A specialist focus is anti-synergetic with the play-styles of some of the civs with Philosophical as a trait (except India).

Added a link to the Era Splash Screen album. Will update as I find and/or receive splash screen art.
 
JFD said:
Administrative is happiness related, whilst Philosophical is great person related - specifically, as the facilitator of a Great Philosopher unit, which can serve the role of any Great Person.

Added a link to the Era Splash Screen album. Will update as I find and/or receive splash screen art.
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This is pure genius.
I'll see if I can find some more stuff for the era splashes!

EDIT: Saw the album, surprised to see that only one of those I provided was actually useful.
 
COF said:
This is pure genius.
I'll see if I can find some more stuff for the era splashes!

EDIT: Saw the album, surprised to see that only one of those I provided was actually useful.
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Oh, no, I'm slowly updating it. There are plenty more that are useful! I just have to make a different border for non-European civs (probably just Asiatic, Meso American, Native American and Middle-Eastern), which is why I haven't put them up yet. But I just added some of the Northern European ones. Many European ones can probably cross over a bit, too; e.g. Graeco-Roman will probably have to assume Central European splash screens, unless there is any alternate history art lying around.
 
Found some more that could be useful:
Futuristic ones:
Spoiler :


A Polynesian
Spoiler :
https://i.imgur.com/wJhKXjj.jpg


Graeco-Roman
Spoiler :
https://i.imgur.com/Cm0kF2c.jpg


Central European
Spoiler :
https://i.imgur.com/6VWndst.jpg


Hope it helps.
 
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