Rambuchan
The Funky President
You won't be impressed when you see my pitiful score posted.
Cumulative PM-based History Quiz II
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Richard Cribb
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How much do I get to keep it a secret, then?Rambuchan said:
Rambuchan
The Funky President
Hold on. Hold on. I submit to your quiz, find I don't know many answers, but take part anyway, get a really bad score, which I don't mind sharing, then I get confronted with bribery about the release of that score?
What a cruel cruel world we live in
What a cruel cruel world we live in
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Homo homini lupus...Rambuchan said:Hold on. Hold on. I submit to your quiz, find I don't know many answers, but take part anyway, get a really bad score, which I don't mind sharing, then I get confronted with bribery about the release of that score?
What a cruel cruel world we live in
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luceafarul said:Homo homini lupus...
Auribus tenere lupum.
And what a great score by Naskra!
Mirc
Not mIRC!!!
Hi, I just read luceafarului 
quiz.
Now I realise how bad I am in history! I looked and in a rough estimation I got about 35 points! I didn't even submit with such a bad score. Basically I could answer 3 or 4 questions!
quiz.Now I realise how bad I am in history! I looked and in a rough estimation I got about 35 points! I didn't even submit with such a bad score. Basically I could answer 3 or 4 questions!
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Touche!thetrooper said:Auribus tenere lupum.
Yes indeed!And what a great score by Naskra!
Don't be so negative, prietenule. history is a vast topic and I am sure you could make a quiz that would leave most of us dumbfounded.Mirc said:
And you know, 35 points might be enough to avoid last place, I haven't got any offer so far, Ram?
Aion has improved his score, he now has 78.
Rambuchan
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Any further offer would be cheating dear fellow.
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A man with principles. That is a precious thing indeed.Rambuchan said:
OK, so you scored 33. Happy now?
Also, 2 of the participants improved their score, sydhe answered one more question to reach 125, while Taliesin took on the Norwegians and was rewarded with 20 points, thus reaching 86.
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luceafarul said:
That's my score without the Norwegians...
Ram!
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Well, would you like to live in a world without Norwegians?thetrooper said:That's my score without the Norwegians...
Also please remember that we are not Europeans...
Adler17
Prussian Feldmarschall
Luc, the last time I showed on the map Norway was in Europe...
Adler
P.S.: I know you meant the EU.
Adler
P.S.: I know you meant the EU.
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Exactly. It is usual among the crybabys in dominant media and moneymongers to whine about how isolated we are.Adler17 said:Luc, the last time I showed on the map Norway was in Europe...
Adler
P.S.: I know you meant the EU.
We have a new leader. Ancient history buff the_Monarch pushes his score to the almost unbelievable 283.
I must confess that even with all the highly knowledgeable people here I hadn't expected anybody to score that high.
So
to him.By the way, let me correct a small error in a former statement.
Almost all the questions has been answered correctly, the only exception being the fourth person in #15.
Rambuchan
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Taking the piss eh? Well I hope your revenge is served so cold that you choke on it!!!thetrooper said:That's my score without the Norwegians...
Like I said to Luc, there is no shame in taking part, except when you get your ass whooped.
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So that's it, no more submissions will be accepted.
I have some other pressing things to do right now, but it is a pleasure to congratulate the_Monarch as the winner with an impressive achievement.
I will try to get the answers up later today or early tomorrow.
I have some other pressing things to do right now, but it is a pleasure to congratulate the_Monarch as the winner with an impressive achievement.
I will try to get the answers up later today or early tomorrow.
the_Monarch
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Thx Luceafare, the pleasure is all mine 
. We'll eagerly wait for your answers. I shall prepare a new quiz soon by saturday or sunday the latest.
. We'll eagerly wait for your answers. I shall prepare a new quiz soon by saturday or sunday the latest.
Rambuchan
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Congratulations the_Monarch. Very good score and great to have new folk taking part
Aion
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Yes, congrats to the winner and thanks to the quizmaster Looking forward to the solutions.
Looking forward to the solutions.
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I have decided to give priority to get the answers quickly posted to write anything extensively. Perhaps I will flesh this out later.
So here is the answers.
1. What did Pi Sheng invent, but is rarely credited for nowadays?
Printing with movable types.
Already in the 8th century, block printing was used in grand scale, thus for instance Chinese Buddhists printed their complete books of doctrines. This was carried out using 130 000 blocks of wood and took 12 years.
Then, in about 1045, Pi Sheng came up with the idea of separate movable types, made of baked clay and glue. Later, in the 14 th century, Wang Shen would have 60.000 characters carved out of wood. In Korea, this was developed further, as early in the 15th century complete fonts were cast in bronze.
Why this invention is attributed to Johan Gutenberg can only be explained with Western myopia.
2. During the 20th century, several countries called themselves "People's Republic" . But which 'People's Republic' has been the longest-living one so far? Give the country,(5 points) plus the years in which the people's republic was proclaimed(10 points), and (if applicable) discontinued(10 points).
Mongolia, 1924 - 1992
3. What is, with a fair amount of artistic license, depicted here?
The Persian ruler Shapur I mounting his horse, using the captured Roman emperor Valerian as a human stepladder.
Valerian (ca.200-260) became emperor in a time with much unrest in the Roman empire. One of the threats came from the Persian king Shapur, who occupied Armenia. Valerian assembled an army and marched against him, but was defeated about 260 and taken prisoner. During his captivity he was a subject to several insults, including what is shown in the illustration.
When offering Shapur a huge ransom for his release, molten gold was poured down his throat. He was then skinned, his skin stuffed with straw and kept as a trophy in the main Persian temple where it would remain until Persia's final defeat more than three centuries later.
The bearded man lying on the ground distinguished himself in a negative way. How?
Valerian was the only Roman emperor ever to be taken captive.
4. From which culture do these excerpts of a creation myth come?
Navaho. For the whole text:http://www.sacred-texts.com/nam/nav/omni/index.htm
5.Below are the photos, names, mini-bios and years of birth and deaths of 5 illustrious Norwegians.
The correct combinations are
1DVc
2EId
3AIVa
4CIIIb
5BIIe
Nansen's assistant was Vidkun Quisling, later the leader for Norway's Fascist party Nasjonal Samling.
The piano piece is Frühlingsrauschen (Rustle of spring) a very popular recital piece. A completely legal and free mp3-file with it can be found here: http://www.pianosociety.com/index.php?id=463 I am considering writing a small piece on Sinding, an undeservedly obscure composer, for this forum if there is any interest for it.
6. According to Herodotus, how did the Persian ruler Cambyses die?
Herodotus tells, that Cambyses was in Syria when news reached him that there had been a revolt in Persia, and that two Magi were heading it, one of them pretending to be his murdered brother Bardiya. Cambyses decided to march to Susa with all possible speed, but when he mounted his horse the chape fell off the end of his scabbard and the exposed point of the sword pierced his thigh. He subsequently died of complications from this wound.
As often with Herodotus, it is doubtful whether this is true, but indeed a good story.
7. Where was the kingdom of Champa (15 points)?
Called Lin-Yi in Chinese records, the kingdom of Champa covered what is today southern and central Vietnam.
And when did it flourish (15 points)?
Somebody gave me the funny answer that it has yet to flourish... Anyway, it lastet from approximately 192 to 1697, but its decline started in the 15th century and it ended up as a Vietnamese vassal state.
Some more information: http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/Article/549713
8. What was the middle name of the US president Harry Truman?
A trick question. He didn't really have a middle name, but as was common pratcice in southern states, used a middle initial.
As a compromise between the names of his grandfathers, he used the initial S..
9. What is this called?
A burial place called tophet, from a term in the Old Testament, where it refers to a location near Jerusalem where Canaanites sacrificed children to the god Moloch. The pictures are from the tophet of Carthage, and many similar have been discovered in Western Phoenician sites. Whether it was only burial places, or whether child sacrifices found place, is still a topic of controversy among historians. For a good overview on this,: http://phoenicia.org/childsacrifice.html
And in which culture was it common?
The Phoenician. Carthaginian would also have been acceptable.
10. Find the name of a land of which the actual location is not exactly known. Some information: the place was konwn for two wise men's gifts, one of which once was used by a medicianal father to save Athens from a plague. People of the Nile occasionally traded with the country. Further, it is connected with the stories of a unfortunate sailor.
The land of Punt.
Punt , called "Ta Netjeru" (the land of gods) by the ancient Egyptians, who traced their origin to it, was an exotic, fabled place located in Eastern Africa.
It seems to have been a commercial center for the whole of Africa, where Egyptians imported ebony, ivory, gum, myrrha and incense (the last-mentioned used by Hippocrates to cure the plague) as
well as the skins of giraffes, panthers and cheetahs which were worn by temple priests, and sometimes the live animals themselves for their own amusement or religious purposes.
Furthermore Punt was considered a personal pleasure garden of the god Amon, and their pygmy god Bes might be of Puntian origin.
Being such an unique and original haven, Punt features in Egyptian narratives, among them the Tale of the Shipwrecked Sailor
The exact location of Punt has been debated, but it is quite common to assume that it was near what is now the coast of Sudan or Eritrea.
11. Who is this man?
Train Vuia (1872 -1950), Romanian inventor. For more information about him, go here:http://www.earlyaviators.com/evuia.htm
And what is he up to here?
He is about to demonstrate his invention "Vuia I", the first successful heavier-than-air airplane.
12. What was remarkable with the ancient Haya people ?
That they, from about 2000 years ago, made steel.
Using special shaft furnaces, Hayas were able to produce high-grade carbon steel of a quality adequate to modern standards.
Where did they live?
In what is today Tanzania.
13. Which famous piano virtuoso and composer became prime minister in his newly independent country?
Ignacy Jan Paderewski (1860 -1941)
a celebrated pianist in both Europe and the US, and also a competent composer (Today his charming minuet in G for solo piano is the most popular of his works, but the most interesting in my opinion is the fantasy on Poilsh folk tunes for piano and orchestra. His piano concerto is also well worth listening to.) was the third prime minister of Poland.
14. In which religion is this a typical symbol?
The nine-pointed star is one of the most used symbols of the Baha'i faith.
15. With the help of these four persons, find the name of another person.
Jean-Baptiste Poquelin, better known as Moliere (1622-1673) .
The Frenchman Moliere is rightly considered one of the European masters of comic satire, many of his plays are still regulary performed.
Additionally you get 5 points for each person you can identify.
The persons are:
1. Titus Lucretius Carus (ca 100BC - 55 BC), Roman poet and philosopher. His only surviving work, De Rerum Natura, is regarded as one of the masterpieces in Latin literature, both for its poetic and its philosophical qualities. One of Molier's first works was a translation of this.
2. Jean-Baptiste Lully (1632 - 1687) , the most illustrious composer at the court of Louis XIV was a friend of Moliere who set music to many of his plays and divertisements for performance at Versailles.
3. Louis XIV (1638 - 1715), "the Sun King", king of France during most of Moliere's life.
4. Ariane Mnouchkine (1939 -) , well known French stage director who eventually also directed a few films; one of them being Moliere for which she was nominated for Oscar. Highly recommended!
16. Bonus question: What was the Vera Menchik club?
Moscow born Vera Menchik (1906 - 1944)
was the first great woman player of chess, who besides winning every Womens World Championship with astonishing ease also performed decently in many international tournaments for males.
The Vienesse master Albert Becker was extermely scornful of her, not only critizing her in public but also declaring openly that she was unworthy to play with men. When she was invited to the extermely strong tournament in Karlsbad 1929, he quipped that those losing to her should become members of the Vera Menchik club. Actually Vera was indeed outclassed and took a clear last place scoring a modest 3 points out of 21, but she won a couple of games, the first being against - Becker! (By the way, the tournament director Hans Kmoch had promised to dance a ballet solo with tutu and everything if she scored more than three points, which he then barely escaped, unfortunately
)
Later she impoved greatly, and among the "members" in her club was former world champion Max Euwe, international stars Samuel Reshevsky, Edgar Colle, Lajos Steiner, Mir Sultan Khan, Friedrich Sämisch as well as most of the English elite.
She was killed by a V-1 rocket during an air-raid against London.
Here is a game that illustrates her strength, a crisp attacking game against one of England's strongest masters.
Vera Menchik - George Alan Thomas, London 1932
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 e5 7. Nge2 b6 8. Qd2
Nc6 9. d5 Ne7 10. g4 Nd7 11. Rg1 a5 12. O-O-O Nc5 13. Ng3 Bd7 14. h4 a4 15. h5 Qb8 16. Bh6 Qa7 17. Bxg7 Kxg7 18. Nf5+ Nxf5 19. gxf5 a3 20. f6+ Kh8 21. Qh6 axb2+ 22. Kb1 Rg8 23. hxg6 fxg6 24. Qxh7+ 1-0
Complete scoreboard
the_Monarch 283
Naskra 245
sydhe 125
Hornblower 100
Taliesin 86
thetrooper 80
Aion 78
Till 47
Rambuchan 33
So the_Monarch made a smashing debut and gets the honour of putting together the next quiz for our education and entertainment.
A pity that Mirc did not submit, since I then would have reach my goal on ten participants, and since he would probably avoided being "the red lantern".
Anyway I am pleased to have two debutants with stellar scores, and I am grateful to all of you who submitted. Those of you who didn't do it so well this time have plenty of opportunity to settle the score later.
Any sort of feedback,either in the form of comments, questions or criticism is as usual welcome.
So here is the answers.
1. What did Pi Sheng invent, but is rarely credited for nowadays?
Printing with movable types.
Already in the 8th century, block printing was used in grand scale, thus for instance Chinese Buddhists printed their complete books of doctrines. This was carried out using 130 000 blocks of wood and took 12 years.
Then, in about 1045, Pi Sheng came up with the idea of separate movable types, made of baked clay and glue. Later, in the 14 th century, Wang Shen would have 60.000 characters carved out of wood. In Korea, this was developed further, as early in the 15th century complete fonts were cast in bronze.
Why this invention is attributed to Johan Gutenberg can only be explained with Western myopia.
2. During the 20th century, several countries called themselves "People's Republic" . But which 'People's Republic' has been the longest-living one so far? Give the country,(5 points) plus the years in which the people's republic was proclaimed(10 points), and (if applicable) discontinued(10 points).
Mongolia, 1924 - 1992
3. What is, with a fair amount of artistic license, depicted here?
The Persian ruler Shapur I mounting his horse, using the captured Roman emperor Valerian as a human stepladder.
Valerian (ca.200-260) became emperor in a time with much unrest in the Roman empire. One of the threats came from the Persian king Shapur, who occupied Armenia. Valerian assembled an army and marched against him, but was defeated about 260 and taken prisoner. During his captivity he was a subject to several insults, including what is shown in the illustration.
When offering Shapur a huge ransom for his release, molten gold was poured down his throat. He was then skinned, his skin stuffed with straw and kept as a trophy in the main Persian temple where it would remain until Persia's final defeat more than three centuries later.
The bearded man lying on the ground distinguished himself in a negative way. How?
Valerian was the only Roman emperor ever to be taken captive.
4. From which culture do these excerpts of a creation myth come?
Navaho. For the whole text:http://www.sacred-texts.com/nam/nav/omni/index.htm
5.Below are the photos, names, mini-bios and years of birth and deaths of 5 illustrious Norwegians.
The correct combinations are
1DVc
2EId
3AIVa
4CIIIb
5BIIe
Nansen's assistant was Vidkun Quisling, later the leader for Norway's Fascist party Nasjonal Samling.
The piano piece is Frühlingsrauschen (Rustle of spring) a very popular recital piece. A completely legal and free mp3-file with it can be found here: http://www.pianosociety.com/index.php?id=463 I am considering writing a small piece on Sinding, an undeservedly obscure composer, for this forum if there is any interest for it.
6. According to Herodotus, how did the Persian ruler Cambyses die?
Herodotus tells, that Cambyses was in Syria when news reached him that there had been a revolt in Persia, and that two Magi were heading it, one of them pretending to be his murdered brother Bardiya. Cambyses decided to march to Susa with all possible speed, but when he mounted his horse the chape fell off the end of his scabbard and the exposed point of the sword pierced his thigh. He subsequently died of complications from this wound.
As often with Herodotus, it is doubtful whether this is true, but indeed a good story.
7. Where was the kingdom of Champa (15 points)?
Called Lin-Yi in Chinese records, the kingdom of Champa covered what is today southern and central Vietnam.
And when did it flourish (15 points)?
Somebody gave me the funny answer that it has yet to flourish... Anyway, it lastet from approximately 192 to 1697, but its decline started in the 15th century and it ended up as a Vietnamese vassal state.
Some more information: http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/Article/549713
8. What was the middle name of the US president Harry Truman?
A trick question. He didn't really have a middle name, but as was common pratcice in southern states, used a middle initial.
As a compromise between the names of his grandfathers, he used the initial S..
9. What is this called?
A burial place called tophet, from a term in the Old Testament, where it refers to a location near Jerusalem where Canaanites sacrificed children to the god Moloch. The pictures are from the tophet of Carthage, and many similar have been discovered in Western Phoenician sites. Whether it was only burial places, or whether child sacrifices found place, is still a topic of controversy among historians. For a good overview on this,: http://phoenicia.org/childsacrifice.html
And in which culture was it common?
The Phoenician. Carthaginian would also have been acceptable.
10. Find the name of a land of which the actual location is not exactly known. Some information: the place was konwn for two wise men's gifts, one of which once was used by a medicianal father to save Athens from a plague. People of the Nile occasionally traded with the country. Further, it is connected with the stories of a unfortunate sailor.
The land of Punt.
Punt , called "Ta Netjeru" (the land of gods) by the ancient Egyptians, who traced their origin to it, was an exotic, fabled place located in Eastern Africa.
It seems to have been a commercial center for the whole of Africa, where Egyptians imported ebony, ivory, gum, myrrha and incense (the last-mentioned used by Hippocrates to cure the plague) as
well as the skins of giraffes, panthers and cheetahs which were worn by temple priests, and sometimes the live animals themselves for their own amusement or religious purposes.
Furthermore Punt was considered a personal pleasure garden of the god Amon, and their pygmy god Bes might be of Puntian origin.
Being such an unique and original haven, Punt features in Egyptian narratives, among them the Tale of the Shipwrecked Sailor
The exact location of Punt has been debated, but it is quite common to assume that it was near what is now the coast of Sudan or Eritrea.
11. Who is this man?
Train Vuia (1872 -1950), Romanian inventor. For more information about him, go here:http://www.earlyaviators.com/evuia.htm
And what is he up to here?
He is about to demonstrate his invention "Vuia I", the first successful heavier-than-air airplane.
12. What was remarkable with the ancient Haya people ?
That they, from about 2000 years ago, made steel.
Using special shaft furnaces, Hayas were able to produce high-grade carbon steel of a quality adequate to modern standards.
Where did they live?
In what is today Tanzania.
13. Which famous piano virtuoso and composer became prime minister in his newly independent country?
Ignacy Jan Paderewski (1860 -1941)
a celebrated pianist in both Europe and the US, and also a competent composer (Today his charming minuet in G for solo piano is the most popular of his works, but the most interesting in my opinion is the fantasy on Poilsh folk tunes for piano and orchestra. His piano concerto is also well worth listening to.) was the third prime minister of Poland.
14. In which religion is this a typical symbol?
The nine-pointed star is one of the most used symbols of the Baha'i faith.
15. With the help of these four persons, find the name of another person.
Jean-Baptiste Poquelin, better known as Moliere (1622-1673) .
The Frenchman Moliere is rightly considered one of the European masters of comic satire, many of his plays are still regulary performed.
Additionally you get 5 points for each person you can identify.
The persons are:
1. Titus Lucretius Carus (ca 100BC - 55 BC), Roman poet and philosopher. His only surviving work, De Rerum Natura, is regarded as one of the masterpieces in Latin literature, both for its poetic and its philosophical qualities. One of Molier's first works was a translation of this.
2. Jean-Baptiste Lully (1632 - 1687) , the most illustrious composer at the court of Louis XIV was a friend of Moliere who set music to many of his plays and divertisements for performance at Versailles.
3. Louis XIV (1638 - 1715), "the Sun King", king of France during most of Moliere's life.
4. Ariane Mnouchkine (1939 -) , well known French stage director who eventually also directed a few films; one of them being Moliere for which she was nominated for Oscar. Highly recommended!
16. Bonus question: What was the Vera Menchik club?
Moscow born Vera Menchik (1906 - 1944)
was the first great woman player of chess, who besides winning every Womens World Championship with astonishing ease also performed decently in many international tournaments for males.
The Vienesse master Albert Becker was extermely scornful of her, not only critizing her in public but also declaring openly that she was unworthy to play with men. When she was invited to the extermely strong tournament in Karlsbad 1929, he quipped that those losing to her should become members of the Vera Menchik club. Actually Vera was indeed outclassed and took a clear last place scoring a modest 3 points out of 21, but she won a couple of games, the first being against - Becker! (By the way, the tournament director Hans Kmoch had promised to dance a ballet solo with tutu and everything if she scored more than three points, which he then barely escaped, unfortunately
)Later she impoved greatly, and among the "members" in her club was former world champion Max Euwe, international stars Samuel Reshevsky, Edgar Colle, Lajos Steiner, Mir Sultan Khan, Friedrich Sämisch as well as most of the English elite.
She was killed by a V-1 rocket during an air-raid against London.
Here is a game that illustrates her strength, a crisp attacking game against one of England's strongest masters.
Vera Menchik - George Alan Thomas, London 1932
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f3 O-O 6. Be3 e5 7. Nge2 b6 8. Qd2
Nc6 9. d5 Ne7 10. g4 Nd7 11. Rg1 a5 12. O-O-O Nc5 13. Ng3 Bd7 14. h4 a4 15. h5 Qb8 16. Bh6 Qa7 17. Bxg7 Kxg7 18. Nf5+ Nxf5 19. gxf5 a3 20. f6+ Kh8 21. Qh6 axb2+ 22. Kb1 Rg8 23. hxg6 fxg6 24. Qxh7+ 1-0
Complete scoreboard
the_Monarch 283
Naskra 245
sydhe 125
Hornblower 100
Taliesin 86
thetrooper 80
Aion 78
Till 47
Rambuchan 33
So the_Monarch made a smashing debut and gets the honour of putting together the next quiz for our education and entertainment.
A pity that Mirc did not submit, since I then would have reach my goal on ten participants, and since he would probably avoided being "the red lantern".
Anyway I am pleased to have two debutants with stellar scores, and I am grateful to all of you who submitted. Those of you who didn't do it so well this time have plenty of opportunity to settle the score later.
Any sort of feedback,either in the form of comments, questions or criticism is as usual welcome.
the_Monarch
annointed and crowned
Thnx for the kind words 
. I think it would be fair to say that I had a lot of luck in this quiz, especially with questions 6 and 11. Some "musical" questions I also owe to my family or to lucky guesses.
But:
I can't believe I actually missed out on this one
! I actually included the Carthaginian habit of child sacrifice in my mod 
. As far as I know about this however, it was more of a means of Roman propaganda. It seems very few children were actually sacrificed and only in critical times. Like the beginning of the Third Punic War . It was a great reason though, along with others, to include the concept of sacrifice.
Well anyway, I'm happy to report that the new quiz is taking shape and will be ready by Friday evening or Saturday morning, CET.
. I think it would be fair to say that I had a lot of luck in this quiz, especially with questions 6 and 11. Some "musical" questions I also owe to my family or to lucky guesses.But:
luceafarul said:
I can't believe I actually missed out on this one
! I actually included the Carthaginian habit of child sacrifice in my mod . As far as I know about this however, it was more of a means of Roman propaganda. It seems very few children were actually sacrificed and only in critical times. Like the beginning of the Third Punic War . It was a great reason though, along with others, to include the concept of sacrifice.Well anyway, I'm happy to report that the new quiz is taking shape and will be ready by Friday evening or Saturday morning, CET.
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