You've got to be kidding me? Your arguments for
defending Cyrus are the difficulty level and the map type? So what you're saying is that *if* there was water in between the land, it would be fair then? What a solution! I allways play either lakes or pangaea and so have played with different types of rushes. The Immortal rush just absolutely craps on the others.
As for the difficulty, Noble
is my difficulty. I couldn't do this with any other leader, including the Romans - certainly not this quickly, on this map, with this difficulty.
Phrederick said:
If you're going to whine about the game, have a real reason to do so. A good UU on an easy map/gamespeed/difficulty isn't a real reason.
Then what is? A bad UU on a hard map/gamespeed/difficulty? The point with this IS the effectiveness of the Immortal. If I have to change the map types in order to put water inbetween so that I can't do a rush, then that says alot about the Immortal itself. Likewise - as stated above - Noble IS my difficulty. I couldn't do this that well with another leader. As for gamespeed, this is the 4rd start I have had on Marathon, with 3 failed starts prior. I pretty much allways play on Normal and Marrathon is new to me. The mere fact that I can come out of the blocks like this on Marrathon is testiment to how over the top the Immortal is - something of which I haven't been able to do with other leaders, like the Romans, Aztec or the Mongolians. The Romans and Aztecs need Iron Working (expensive) and the Mongols need Horse Breeding (exxxpensive). Cyrus just needs one tech, hook up horse with his Imp trait and wham! You got Immortals for the cost of 25 hammers (cheaper than Axemen) each on Normal speed.
IF map type and gamespeed is what holds the unit back, then MAYBE it's a little too strong. I have never been able to do a rush like this with anything else, and that is with the same difficulty, same speed, same map type. The Immortal IS a little over the top.
And in response to just
not playing as Cyrus. That isn't the point. What if I wanted to play as Cyrus? The ****** up choices that have been made, that I refered to, were related to this idea of making distinctly unbalanced leaders. I am not a player who chooses my leaders based on their abilities/inabilities. I like to play as the leader, regardless of the traits/UU. Making the leaders this unbalanced just, imo, screws up the game. The Romans being the way they are: So be it. They don't have an Aggressive trait and so the Praetorians compensate for it. As such, I just accept the Romans for that, but I keep clear away from them. But the Immortals? Apart from being fast, strong and effective at anti Archer and NOW anti Axemen, they can also promote quickly, get GG's faster and be built quickly and cheaply.
Basically, to not play as Cyrus because of how unbalanced he is, is to just eliminate yet another choice in the game for me. That is what's killing the game imo.