DaNES II: When the Stars Fall

[Dachs]

I've been informed that the standing armies of feudal states like Iberia don't represent their full military strength, and that there's tons of levies that I can call up for a war. Is this true?

By golly it is.

I would like this color.

Also can I switch my color to the gold in the Modern German Flag?

Nah. Switching around colors would be a pain in the tuchas.

Requesting faction info when you can, Dachs.

Artavashuni: the family of the Arkah. Very supportive of the central authority, tends to provide war leaders of no mean skill.
Nakharars: the nobility. Generally supplies heavy cavalry to the army. Tend to be more heavily Zoroastrian than the rest of the state. Generally quite disloyal, and are gratified that the central authority is unable to supervise them effectively.
Shinakans: various lower-class elements who are chiefly noteworthy because they have weapons, since they provide the bulk of the military's infantry. Used to be that estates would provide peasantry to fight as shinakans but these days they are mostly the Armenian urban poor. Heavily Sophist, tend to dislike the nakharars.
Kavakaza marz lords: the Caucasus marcher-lords, funnily enough. More or less evenly split between Sophist and not. They like having a low-level Antes threat because that way they get resources from the central government without having to deal with oversight from same. Unfortunately for them that hasn't been the Antes' program.
Adurbagadan: marz that basically corresponds to Atropatene. Satrap is Zoroastrian and very pro-Areia for the obvious reasons.
Pokr Hayk: marz of Pokr Hayk (lit. "Lesser Armenia"), the westernmost marz. This one is Sophist, the most powerful of the marz lords. Tends to oppose wars with Pisidia or the Seleukids, wants to tear the Pontic League a new one.
Sophists: are the Sophists. I think the stuff they support ought to be pretty obvious by now. They're mostly an urban faith in Armenia.

 

[Kraznaya]

From: The High Chancellor of Wu Chao, Sun Zheng, on behalf of His Majesty Son of Heaven Yang Yunfen
To: The Chancellors of Yang Zhou (the State of Yang) and Nanyue Zhou (The State of Nanyue) and those They represent

We greet your courts warmly in this time of peril, and wish those dear to you good fortune and health. We are very much concerned about the warlike manner and belligerence that has pervaded the political mood throughout the Middle Kingdom, and would like to extend our hand to propose amend. Staying our lips of rightful but bold claim, we see the need to come together in face of the barbarian assault that threatens even the very heart of our ancient homeland. Thus, we offer thus that we agree to enjoin in mutual benevolence toward each other, and come to mutual defense of one another should any one of us be besieged by forces from without the four directions.

From: The High Chancellor of Wu Chao, Sun Zheng, on behalf of His Majesty Son of Heaven Yang Yunfen
To: Soga Umako of the Riben Zhou

The Huangdi sends greetings to the Queen of the East the Land of the Rising Sun, and wishes prosperity and peace upon her domain. In this time of expediency, we move to a simple message: the blessing of Heaven has conferred upon the Huangdi a simple advantage to rule All Under Heaven under his command, and by that Right he has gained that which is stronger. Your Queen, as fate has decided, is left with that which is weaker to rule what befits her station. The Son of Heaven has need of your aid, and by his right he shall take 200 taels of silver per year as Your tribute. We expect this tribute annually unless we give further word of changes in this arrangement

OOC: Dachs, China is always pink. Give me pink. :3
Birdjaguar, I am using the approximite conversion of 25 taels = 1 talent, so I am asking (re: demanding) 8 talents a year.

 

[Kentharu]

This message brought to you by
All Things Awesome

 

[TheWesley]

Apoogies for this, but quitting to "make room" for DaftNES.

 

[Abaddon]

To The High Chancellor of Wu Chao, Sun Zheng, on behalf of His Majesty Son of Heaven Yang Yunfen
From Liang

Is it an oversight that you did not entertain to include us in the mutual defence from the barbarian assault?

 

[Kraznaya]

To The High Chancellor of Wu Chao, Sun Zheng, on behalf of His Majesty Son of Heaven Yang Yunfen
From Liang

Is it an oversight that you did not entertain to include us in the mutual defence from the barbarian assault?

We are very pleased to note your final admission and acknowledgment of Our Right as the Son of Heaven, and your obsequiousness to the Huangdi of All Under Heaven, Yang Yunfen. However, the methodology of our diplomacy does not allow for careless error, and we have been meticulous in carrying out our assigned tasks. We thank you for your concern.


The High Chancellor of Wu Chao, Sun Zheng, on behalf of His Majesty Son of Heaven Yang Yunfen

 

[Abaddon]

 

[Thlayli]

Apoogies for this, but quitting to "make room" for DaftNES.

Remind me to not let you apply for any NES I run.

 

[Dachs]

Hey guys, orders are due in about 31 hours! I've already got orders from Aksum, the Cholas, Pisidia, and Walhaland. Step it up, because if we want to be able to see an update quickly I'm not going to be able to give you guys any leeway on the deadline!

Apoogies for this, but quitting to "make room" for DaftNES.

I'm sorry to hear that.

 

[alex994]

From: The High Chancellor of Wu Chao, Sun Zheng, on behalf of His Majesty Son of Heaven Yang Yunfen
To: The Chancellors of Yang Zhou (the State of Yang) and Nanyue Zhou (The State of Nanyue) and those They represent

We greet your courts warmly in this time of peril, and wish those dear to you good fortune and health. We are very much concerned about the warlike manner and belligerence that has pervaded the political mood throughout the Middle Kingdom, and would like to extend our hand to propose amend. Staying our lips of rightful but bold claim, we see the need to come together in face of the barbarian assault that threatens even the very heart of our ancient homeland. Thus, we offer thus that we agree to enjoin in mutual benevolence toward each other, and come to mutual defense of one another should any one of us be besieged by forces from without the four directions.

IC:

To: The High Chancellor of the State of Wu on the behalf of the ruler of Wu, Yang Yunfen
From: Crown Prince Zhao Ziqiang from Nanyue Wangguo (The Kingdom of Nanyue)

On the behalf of my father, I happily receive the many gifts that accompany the message of the ruler of Wu. We agree fully with the ruler of Wu in that warlike mannerisms and belligerent behavior have long indeed pervaded the former territories of the Han Dynasty. We too have heard of the news of the North, where mighty horse nomads and their ilk now rule. To your offer of friendship, we say that we have long held the states of both Yang and Wu in high esteem; for nothing is more cherished than that of friendship amongst neighbors and it is long held established that friends shall aid each other in times of both fortune and peril.

Having established and reaffirmed the long friendship that exists between Wu and Yang with Nanyue, we fully subscribe to the spirit of the proposal of state of Wu.

OOC: You can do it abaddon!

 

[Supermath]

Hey guys, orders are due in about 31 hours! I've already got orders from Aksum, the Cholas, Pisidia, and Walhaland. Step it up, because if we want to be able to see an update quickly I'm not going to be able to give you guys any leeway on the deadline!

OOC: You should have Cambrian orders in your inbox.

 

[Dachs]

OOC: You should have Cambrian orders in your inbox.

And I do! They were just on another page.

 

[Thlayli]

My orders have mostly taken shape and will be sent late tonight; I'm facing a time crunch due to upcoming school deadlines but my legislative agenda is basically worked out.

Dachs, for the benefit of future reference, all that hard work you did on the faction descriptions in both the preview thread and here should be listed on the front page, where they can be updated if necessary.

 

[Dachs]

Dachs, for the benefit of future reference, all that hard work you did on the faction descriptions in both the preview thread and here should be listed on the front page, where they can be updated if necessary.

Or I could link the original thread, not add descriptions for factions for people who don't care enough to ask for them, and rely on notices in updates to inform players as how things are going with those faction things.

 

[Thlayli]

I like my way better.

 

[Dachs]

I like my way better.

Yeah, cause your way involves less work for you.

 

[Thlayli]

Fine, if it will soothe your troubled psyche, I'll combine all of the faction lists in one master post, which you can then link to in this thread. Wednesdayish.

 

[Cynovolans]

Because it has been bugging for a while, Dachs who is Leon of Ambrakia mentioned in the Kingdom of Chaonia description? And requesting faction info if I haven't already.

 

[Dachs]

A message from Karalysia, who as you may or may not know is currently b&:

To Armenian Empire, Kingdom of Sogdiane, Kingdom of Baktria, Selukid [sic] Empire, Pontic League, Perseid Empire, Kingdom of Aigyptos, Aksumite Empire, Kingdom of Kaspeireia, League of Patalene, Pala Empire, Ganga Empire, Kingdom of Kalinga, Chola Empire, Republic of Panormos, Kingdom of Chaonia, Kingdom of Makedonia, Kingdom of Mysia, Kingdom of Kimmerian Bosporos, Kingdom of Pisidia

I Basileus Arakdios [sic] of the Kingdom of Areia am pleased to announce my marriage to the niece of the Arkah Haroutyoun of the Armenian Empire, Anike. The union of our two great houses will ensure peace and prosperity between our peoples for eternity.

I invite emissaries and leaders from all kingdoms and empires to come and partake in a month of great festivities. The wine shall flow freely in the streets in the greatest city on earth Hekatompylos. Come, indulge in our feasts, eat the exotic food from every corner of the world, smoke opium and hemp from fine hookah pipes, purvey our great markets brimming with luxuries of silk, jewelry, precious stones, and all manner of delight, tour the ancient ruins of Perseopolis [sic] and other Medioi [sic] cities conquered by my ancestor Megas Alexandros.

Bring your athletes and have them compete in wrestling, javelin, and horse races. View the ancient great tragedies and comedies performed on stage, watch exotic animals entertain you, elephants, tigers, bears, giraffes, and camels all manner of strange and mysterious creature and slaves of all types. Every worldly pleasure and delight is available in Hekatompylos the city of Achoura Maznta himself.

We hope that all will attend.


Signed and Sealed,
Basileus Arkadios of the Kingdom of Aeria [sic]

Fine, if it will soothe your troubled psyche, I'll combine all of the faction lists in one master post, which you can then link to in this thread. Wednesdayish.

No, you won't. I'll add faction descriptions to the first page this week after the update.

Because it has been bugging for a while, Dachs who is Leon of Ambrakia mentioned in the Kingdom of Chaonia description?

A political theorist of some import from the southern portion of your territory who lived about a century ago.

And requesting faction info if I haven't already.

Sure, chief.

Epeirotai: the Epirotes, the bluff peoples of the western slopes of the Pindos Mountains, and the backbone of your kingdom demographically and militarily. The most numerous subgroup of these are the Molossoi [Molossians]. Tend to focus on trade in the urbanized regions along the coast but include major landowners with estates along the margins of the Epirote piedmont region. Heavily Sophist. Can usually be counted upon to support royal initiatives.
Ambrakia: Ambrakia is a region that currently refers to the southern portion of Epeiros proper, Akarnania, and Aitolia, governed from the eponymous city. Ambrakiots are not particularly numerous and tend to be similar in terms of economic focus to the Epeirotai. However, they are not so willing to subsidize military expeditions to the north and across the Ionian Sea, and tend to be very interested in the goings-on in Greece proper. Also provide large numbers of quality light infantry and assault infantry for your army.
Megale Hellenic poleis: the cities of Great Greece, the Italian portion of your empire. Politically they are semi-independent, and technically exist in a "Koinon Italikon" (Italiote League) led by the king of Chaonia as hereditary hegemon. They like being economically independent from the rest of Chaonia, not subject to the same trade policy the king enforces in the Greek territories of the kingdom. However, they are increasingly being forced to trade autonomy for security as Aorsi raids devastate the chorai of the cities. Above all, they are interested in checking the threat of the Aorsi.
Illyria: the northern coastal possessions of Chaonia, in OMD Dalmatia and Istria. The same barbarian pressure that weakened Makedonia enough to allow Chaonia to achieve independence destroyed the Illyrian hinterland of the once-thriving coastal poleis in Dalmatia. Illyria is heavily raided, heavily depopulated, and dangerously separatist at the lack of attention it has received from the central Chaonian government.

 

[Thlayli]

IC: Surely we shall send a delegation, etc. etc.

OOC: Okay sorry, just trying to be helpful, threadmeister.