JuuL hvorfor ikke vælge en udenrigsminister fra bernstorff dynastiet, det var trods alt Andreas Peter Bernstorff der var idemanden bag den defensive neutraliet, som muliggjorde den florrisante handel og den "guldalder"(vi tjente mange penge) Danmark oplevede i slutningen af 1700-tallet.
Danization (Danish MOD)
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Hi, abefar and welcome to my thread (that's just a hilarious name 
). Sometimes people start complaining when people write something in another language than English without making a translation. So just to avoid that, I'm going to translate it for you... What abefar said was:
"JuuL, why not choose a foreign minister from the Bernstorff dynasty, it was after all Andreas Peter Bernstorff who was the man behind the defensive neutrality which made possible the flourishing trade and the "golden age" (we made a lot of money) that Denmark experienced during the end of the 18th century"
Good idea... I just checked it on Google. And actually I just chose Ellemann-Jensen because I couldn't think of anything better (and I had chosen Stauning as the domestic advisor, so I wanted somebody from Venstre to balance the advisors politically). But I'm going to go down to my local library and loan a very good book soon anyway - it contains a list of the 200 or 300 most important Danes... that way I can find the most important. And maybe get some ideas for wonders as well.
). Sometimes people start complaining when people write something in another language than English without making a translation. So just to avoid that, I'm going to translate it for you... What abefar said was:"JuuL, why not choose a foreign minister from the Bernstorff dynasty, it was after all Andreas Peter Bernstorff who was the man behind the defensive neutrality which made possible the flourishing trade and the "golden age" (we made a lot of money) that Denmark experienced during the end of the 18th century"
Good idea... I just checked it on Google. And actually I just chose Ellemann-Jensen because I couldn't think of anything better (and I had chosen Stauning as the domestic advisor, so I wanted somebody from Venstre to balance the advisors politically). But I'm going to go down to my local library and loan a very good book soon anyway - it contains a list of the 200 or 300 most important Danes... that way I can find the most important. And maybe get some ideas for wonders as well.
POLM
Warlord
As I have mentioned earlyer in this tread I think you should make the leaderheads maps of the region the "nation" covers today, or covered in it's golden age, or just the area whit that name... you get the idea...
Welcome back POLM... I haven't seen you here in a while.
Yes, I remember your idea. And I think it's the best solution. Having era-specific animated LHs for all the civs would be making the download very big for no good reason. The "map LH" would just be a single image - and there are some people here who convert single images to LHs (I don't know how to do it myself). So I think that's what I'm going to do.
edit: The problem with this is, of course, that the borders may not be the same on the LH as in the game. And the capital may not even be the same if somebody else takes it. So maybe it isn't a good idea... I'm not sure...
Yes, I remember your idea. And I think it's the best solution. Having era-specific animated LHs for all the civs would be making the download very big for no good reason. The "map LH" would just be a single image - and there are some people here who convert single images to LHs (I don't know how to do it myself). So I think that's what I'm going to do.
edit: The problem with this is, of course, that the borders may not be the same on the LH as in the game. And the capital may not even be the same if somebody else takes it. So maybe it isn't a good idea... I'm not sure...
POLM
Warlord
Well, still it's nice to have a different image for every tribe so you don't mix them up in ypur mind.
And if it gives a approx image of where the tribe is placed i think it's even better.
Maybe you could take a map of a green Denmark and highligt the approx location of the tribe in fx red... that would be cool i think
And if it gives a approx image of where the tribe is placed i think it's even better.
Maybe you could take a map of a green Denmark and highligt the approx location of the tribe in fx red... that would be cool i think
POLM
Warlord
sure, good idea
Because of my last exam I won't have much time the next three days, so the first previews of the LHs won't be posted any time soon.
Kinboat just opened another unit request thread . I have requested a 17th century partisan which I hope to use as a snaphane which will be spawned by the great wonder of Legend of Gøngehøvdingen. So if you don't have anything else to do with your vote I would like some support...
Kinboat just opened another unit request thread . I have requested a 17th century partisan which I hope to use as a snaphane which will be spawned by the great wonder of Legend of Gøngehøvdingen. So if you don't have anything else to do with your vote I would like some support...
I didn't win the last time, but I'm trying again - this time in aaglo' unit request lottery . My request for a snaphane can be seen in post #49. I know I didn't get much support for this request last time, but I hope somebody will do it this time.
And since I'm posting anyway I'll give you the latest news: The many pages of things to be done have been reduced a lot. All the easy corrections have been made and only 42 more need to be done (this is from my hand-written notes... I have a few more things written down in a document on my computer).
And since I'm posting anyway I'll give you the latest news: The many pages of things to be done have been reduced a lot. All the easy corrections have been made and only 42 more need to be done (this is from my hand-written notes... I have a few more things written down in a document on my computer).
Kristian95
Dr. Minion
sounds good 
I look forward to your next version
I look forward to your next version Latest news: All the important changes have been made. I might change a few things, but most of the things that need to be done now are graphics (including the advisors and leaderheads).
btw, I decided not to make the "Roman Alliance" wonder. I think it would be strange to have just one wonder representing one kind of foreign influence on Danish politics. If something like this should be done (which I don't think it should) it would be necessary to have multiple "xxxxxx Alliance" wonders to represent danish foreign politics during the ages. Having just one seems a bit odd. Besides, the effect of an alliance is difficult to make with the editor - there's really no obvious effect that truly represents the effect of being allied with a powerful nation.
btw, I decided not to make the "Roman Alliance" wonder. I think it would be strange to have just one wonder representing one kind of foreign influence on Danish politics. If something like this should be done (which I don't think it should) it would be necessary to have multiple "xxxxxx Alliance" wonders to represent danish foreign politics during the ages. Having just one seems a bit odd. Besides, the effect of an alliance is difficult to make with the editor - there's really no obvious effect that truly represents the effect of being allied with a powerful nation.
I hate posting myself three times in a row without any comments. But I guess I'll have to now that I've finished a preview of the new LHs. This one shows the LH of Mors. I will need some comments before I can finish the LHs (and the mod). Should I write the name of the tribe on the LH? Or is it enough that you can see it on the diplomacy menu? How should capitals look like - if they should be there at all? Could anything else be done better/differently? I know you're out there somewhere reading this, so please tell me what you think.
Kristian95
Dr. Minion
I like the graphics of your leaderheads and actually, I think you should ad the tribe name as well
I must say, I just look forward, a lot, to trying the new version of the mod!!
and actually, I think you should ad the tribe name as well I must say, I just look forward, a lot, to trying the new version of the mod!!
Thanks... do you mean something like this? I've used the same kind of text as I used for the icon below my name ("Old English Text MT"). It's sort of the official Gesta Danorum font. Unless people really don't like it... then I might change it.
edit: I just saw that aaglo's unit lottery has ended. I didn't win. There will be no Snaphane in Gesta Danorum. btw, I think I might make the name of the civ a little larger. And should I write the name of the capital?
edit: I just saw that aaglo's unit lottery has ended. I didn't win. There will be no Snaphane in Gesta Danorum. btw, I think I might make the name of the civ a little larger. And should I write the name of the capital?
Today's news: I just started a new thread with a few questions about modding. If anyone of you knows some of the answers, please post them there. I have also requested the Snaphane again. If we're lucky, somebody will make it.
But I also have some other questions about the mod that I would like to ask you:
1) We need some ideas about a wonder or some improvements that could reduce War Weariness (when having the Constitutional Monarchy government). Right now this effect has been given to the Welfare Reform, but I think we can do better. Giving it to Universal Suffrage is not an option (I always thought that it was a strange effect for that wonder).
2) Which units should be Amphibious? Right now the Viking, Berserk and Modern Infantry have it. But that gives us a problem: How do you take a city on a single-tile island in the middle and industrial age? I've been thinking of giving the Amphibious ability to all kinds of infantry. This would make infantry a combined defense and offense unit, which I think could be interesting. It would also make it more important to guard your coastal cities properly, since you will not have that one-turn warning that you usually have when the AI simply unloads some units near your cities. But I'm not quite sure if it's a good idea...
3) The fact that I have removed the Offshore Platform is a problem. Production in cities on small islands is simply too low in the later ages. I want to add some kind of coastal improvement, which will probably become available with Refining (or Steel maybe Steel). It will increase the output of production and commerce in water tiles. But I'm not sure what to call it. Shipyard? Container Port? Or simply Big Commercial Dock? Any ideas?
But I also have some other questions about the mod that I would like to ask you:
1) We need some ideas about a wonder or some improvements that could reduce War Weariness (when having the Constitutional Monarchy government). Right now this effect has been given to the Welfare Reform, but I think we can do better. Giving it to Universal Suffrage is not an option (I always thought that it was a strange effect for that wonder).
2) Which units should be Amphibious? Right now the Viking, Berserk and Modern Infantry have it. But that gives us a problem: How do you take a city on a single-tile island in the middle and industrial age? I've been thinking of giving the Amphibious ability to all kinds of infantry. This would make infantry a combined defense and offense unit, which I think could be interesting. It would also make it more important to guard your coastal cities properly, since you will not have that one-turn warning that you usually have when the AI simply unloads some units near your cities. But I'm not quite sure if it's a good idea...
3) The fact that I have removed the Offshore Platform is a problem. Production in cities on small islands is simply too low in the later ages. I want to add some kind of coastal improvement, which will probably become available with Refining (or Steel maybe Steel). It will increase the output of production and commerce in water tiles. But I'm not sure what to call it. Shipyard? Container Port? Or simply Big Commercial Dock? Any ideas?
I'm not sure, abefar (can't stop laughing when reading that name 
). Tivoli has little effect outside its home city. But I think you're close to a good idea. WW should be reduced by some kind of "opium of the people" (which is why I used the Welfare Reform before). But I think I want a seperate anti-WW wonder (a Small Wonder). My ideas are:
- Satellite Television, requires Satellites (opium of the people)
- UN Membership, requires the Cold War (the tech NATO has been renamed to "the Cold War) (support from other nations, justification of the war). The problem with this is that it would be strange to have as a SW since that would mean that different UN members would fight against each other - all of them beleiveing that they have the support of the UN, it's just absurd (or maybe not... reminds of how differently the different nations of the real world has interpreted the resolutions about Iraq...).
- I'm sure I can think of more when I have time...
). Tivoli has little effect outside its home city. But I think you're close to a good idea. WW should be reduced by some kind of "opium of the people" (which is why I used the Welfare Reform before). But I think I want a seperate anti-WW wonder (a Small Wonder). My ideas are:- Satellite Television, requires Satellites (opium of the people)
- UN Membership, requires the Cold War (the tech NATO has been renamed to "the Cold War) (support from other nations, justification of the war). The problem with this is that it would be strange to have as a SW since that would mean that different UN members would fight against each other - all of them beleiveing that they have the support of the UN, it's just absurd (or maybe not... reminds of how differently the different nations of the real world has interpreted the resolutions about Iraq...).
- I'm sure I can think of more when I have time...
Kristian95
Dr. Minion
JuuL said:
It looks pretty good
I say it's a keeper Kristian95
Dr. Minion
As for WW reducing wonders, how about the entertainment industry as a whole ?? Such as Nordisk Film or such. Perhaps the WWII experience could also help.... basically Nationalism, could also be used as an "excuse"
If you make a Dybbøl wonder that one could reduce WW 'cause people are willing to go through a war for the payback they wish for.... I hope this can help your brain storming session
If you make a Dybbøl wonder that one could reduce WW 'cause people are willing to go through a war for the payback they wish for.... I hope this can help your brain storming session
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