Dawn of Civilization General Discussion

[Aradziem]

Final frontier+ uses this
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/multiple-production-mod.326545/

 

[Dracosolon]

What's the max number of defensive pacts you can have? Is that written down somewhere?

 

[Leoreth]

Three by default, five with Berlaymont.

 

[Just an idea]

Something I noticed when looking through tech tree. All techs have some effect which can benefit multiple civs, except Theology, which has a religion and two world wonders. Is this because there hasn't been fitting effect for the tech?

 

[Dracosolon]

something sky fairy something

But speaking seriously it does bother me a little when a tech can be completely useless to someone because all of its benefits are one-time deals, like this one.

 

[Bu77Trout]

Is it possible to contact Aztecs and Maya too early to trigger conquerors? Or if you win victory or switch civs does it disable conquerors?

 

[Zaddy]

Yep, the native Americans get several turns of protection where they're immune to conqueror events. You need to wait a good amount of turns after they spawn to attack them.

 

[Bu77Trout]

Yep, the native Americans get several turns of protection where they're immune to conqueror events. You need to wait a good amount of turns after they spawn to attack them.

Thanks, turns out the magic number is around 1400AD for Aztecs. The Maya didn't trigger conquerors either though, so I think it's a set date for all Native civs rather than a set number of turns.

 

[Dracosolon]

Is that retroactive? If you've already discovered them can you get conquerors in 1400 AD?

 

[Cosmos1985]

They are protected from conquerors 10 turns from their spawn on normal speed IIRC.

 

[HighFunctioningAlcoholic]

Is that retroactive? If you've already discovered them can you get conquerors in 1400 AD?

Negative.

 

[Matara]

Elective adds one coin to every city plot. That makes Elective a very strong civic for big empires. Is it intended that city plot is "unimproved"?

 

[Leoreth]

Elective adds one coin to every city plot. That makes Elective a very strong civic for big empires. Is it intended that city plot is "unimproved"?

No, will fix.

 

[1SDANi]

No, will fix.

Can we make it intended? Or, for the sake of good design, make it give "+1 Commerce in all Cities"

 

[Leoreth]

Why would Elective provide this bonus?

 

[1SDANi]

Good question.

 

[Dracosolon]

To reward you for having many cities, I guess. But my understanding is that Elective is supposed to be the generally weakest civic in its category, and serve as a transitional bonus while you're still lacking in improved tiles.

 

[Steb]

Thematically, you could make the case that an elective monarchy empowers cities, small constituent states, local nobles etc.

 

[freethink]

Thematically, you could make the case that an elective monarchy empowers cities, small constituent states, local nobles etc.

The Holy Roman Empire, certainly had a degree freedom for urban eras, and the Mongol confederations enabled long-distance trade (when at peace- what a misnomer there)

 

[Derdan]

Under what circumstances do any of you use Elective? I never use it since Despotism is so strong and I find Monarchy is still pretty much always a better choice.