Manco Capac
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Such a turn of event. o_O
DDD IV: Joao
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The Oz-Man
Enter: The VAIKE!
...bwahahahahahaha, uh-oh. 
Anything you can do at this point?
Anything you can do at this point?
Manco Capac
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I have zero knowledge of nuclear warfare and AI decisions on that aspect, but does it mean Ragnar starting using his own nuclear heads are the starting point of Zara allowing himself to retaliate without remorse?
@Tachywaxon
I was mostly referring to the -39 diplo modifier. Zara started using nukes of his own accord. He was the only civ with Fission at the time of attack, and since my war weariness sky-rocketed during the war, I wasn't able to raise my science slider either.
Ragnar's biggest contribution, in fact, was to vote 'no' to the UN motion banning nuclear weapons. He did this on all three occasions that I proposed it, just as I was getting pummeled. Moron.
@The Oz-Man
Next round coming shortly.
I was mostly referring to the -39 diplo modifier. Zara started using nukes of his own accord. He was the only civ with Fission at the time of attack, and since my war weariness sky-rocketed during the war, I wasn't able to raise my science slider either.
Ragnar's biggest contribution, in fact, was to vote 'no' to the UN motion banning nuclear weapons. He did this on all three occasions that I proposed it, just as I was getting pummeled. Moron.
@The Oz-Man
Next round coming shortly.
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Ragnar's biggest contribution, in fact, was to vote 'no' to the UN motion banning nuclear weapons. He did this on all three occasions that I proposed it, just as I was getting pummeled. Moron.
That's a in-game mechanics I am getting interested now as the strategic aftermath of a good understanding is big. I can imagine the prospects...
I've seen some instances of diplo voting/AI pondering in the code...
Just like acquiring a Defensive Pact allows the human master to abuse resource demands by his vassal, maybe there's a mean to distort AI diplo decision upon circumstance...
Round 6
Well, after Zara initiated plan Nuclear Winter against me, I needed to hang on to my gains on his continent. Offense is the best form of defense, so I swung my troops round to attack more of the Native American cities:
I had no means of moving new troops to the continent in except through the air. A city without an Airport can only receive one unit per turn, and when SB peace vassaled I only had three cities. So I needed to take more to allow me to ferry in more troops:
After taking out the Native Americans, I made peace for ten turns:
Zara was one tech away from a full Spaceship, and I wanted to make sure that I could wipe out his capital after he'd launched. My Transports were on the wrong side of the world, and needed to circumvent the globe.
Twelve turns later I redeclared and launched an ICBM of my own:
Now, normally I don't build Nukes to use against the AI. They're fine in a pinch, but I think it's a liiitttle bit cheesy to launch a mass nuclear attack in a single turn, unless you really have to. (This is a personal thing. It's not a hard and fast rule.
)
But you see my enormous stack of troops that took Aksum? On the next turn, BOOM.
Three nukes, gone. My homeland too, BOOM. My capital, Heroic Epic city, Globe Theater spot all targeted:
Look at how the citizenry suffer:
So, long story short, this entire turn made me sufficiently angry to drop all my principles and start using Tactical Nukes instead of Bombers:
Leading to "victory" in 1929 AD:
Stats and screens:
I conventionally post a picture of my capital at this point, to show how awesome it became. Well here it is:
Moral of the story? Ragnar's a nut job... but Zara? Don't mess with Zara.
Thanks everyone for reading, playing, and commenting!
Well, after Zara initiated plan Nuclear Winter against me, I needed to hang on to my gains on his continent. Offense is the best form of defense, so I swung my troops round to attack more of the Native American cities:
Spoiler :
I had no means of moving new troops to the continent in except through the air. A city without an Airport can only receive one unit per turn, and when SB peace vassaled I only had three cities. So I needed to take more to allow me to ferry in more troops:
Spoiler :
After taking out the Native Americans, I made peace for ten turns:
Spoiler :
Zara was one tech away from a full Spaceship, and I wanted to make sure that I could wipe out his capital after he'd launched. My Transports were on the wrong side of the world, and needed to circumvent the globe.
Twelve turns later I redeclared and launched an ICBM of my own:
Spoiler :
Now, normally I don't build Nukes to use against the AI. They're fine in a pinch, but I think it's a liiitttle bit cheesy to launch a mass nuclear attack in a single turn, unless you really have to. (This is a personal thing. It's not a hard and fast rule.
)But you see my enormous stack of troops that took Aksum? On the next turn, BOOM.
Three nukes, gone. My homeland too, BOOM. My capital, Heroic Epic city, Globe Theater spot all targeted:Spoiler :
Look at how the citizenry suffer:
Spoiler :
So, long story short, this entire turn made me sufficiently angry to drop all my principles and start using Tactical Nukes instead of Bombers:
Spoiler :
Leading to "victory" in 1929 AD:
Spoiler :
Stats and screens:
Spoiler :
I conventionally post a picture of my capital at this point, to show how awesome it became. Well here it is:
Spoiler :
Moral of the story? Ragnar's a nut job... but Zara? Don't mess with Zara.
Spoiler :
ben-jammin
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Would taking all the cities on your own continent plus some of SBs not have given you enough land for conquest?
I was a little short:
Spoiler :
Zara was set to win via Space on the turn after I declared:
Spoiler :
vranasm
Deity
what a horror game and great finish...very rarely seen practically modern era warfare.
shakabrade
Praise Vivec!
You made this one into a thriller!
Most interesting stuff to read in a while!
Congrats on a win.
Most interesting stuff to read in a while!
Congrats on a win.
Smilingrogue
Raging Barbarian
Amazing job, as always, Doshin! 
Looking forward to the next one.
Looking forward to the next one.
Yep, we had lots of happy so the whips weren't too bad but when you lose >9 chariots per city you don't get a good tech from peace. HAs don't have the same problem, but of course I didn't plan to attack and just saw the potential opportunity with a 2 archer per city Ragnar vs my 6 whippable cities. I should play it out to see I guess.
Hahah OMG!
WelshGandalf
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You and the AI manage to irradiate the whole world. There are no winners to this game, only losers.
Good read, and nice posting setup
I'm not sure what you're suggesting.
But I'm glad you're enjoying the (100% original) DDDR setup. 
Played this a bit and Imho the way to go is HA rush. (commerce+forrests+nasty neighbour who owns a holy city)
However, I didn't feel like warring much and got pwned by Ragnar in the BC's despite me running his religion asap.
That'll teach me...
However, I didn't feel like warring much and got pwned by Ragnar in the BC's despite me running his religion asap.
That'll teach me... 
