r16
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unfortunately writing skills is one of the many things ı lack . At a forum where ı was not only banned but deleted as well , we had a discussion of flying saucers - they don't exist , even in Groom Lake - and what ı posted what of course a poorly constructed jam of various ideas . So one of the posters advised that ı should be tagged as , if ı remember correctly Ed L. Word , a play on Mr.Wood of Plan B From Outer Space . Can't blame anyone of disregarding me ... Still ı get the what all the time.
anyhow for today's mumbo-jumbo:
am to try to avoid the impression of giving a lecture of history .How ı don't know but let me try it once . The idea might be dubious in any case ...
june 1944 , Japanese Navy is totally defeated in the Great Turkey Shoot of Marianas , the losses are so griveous that carriers are out of action until March '45 at the earliest . Allies have landed in Normandy , the summer offensive by the Russians is expected daily , it can be foreseen that Germany will be crushed which means the American forces in combat with the Japanese can easily double in 1945. One overrriding aspect of Japanese strategy in WW2 has been denying bases to B-29 class aircraft to keep Japan proper out of bomber range , even before the Superfortress itself existed . While a large offensive in China succeeds , there is no way that Marianas can be taken back . IJN agrees to peace .
now the Japanese Army and Navy give the resemblence of two countries in a close alliance , just like the US and UK . They are fighting common enemies but that just glosses over the fundemental differences between them , the in-fighting continues . Name the army that has an aircraft carrier and ocean going submarines . US Army has had only transport ships ... One of the Japanese commands had torpedo carrying amphibious tanks but ı forgot which. The reason is most probably lies the agreements between various clans united in toppling the Tokugawas , they carved their fiefdoms in the new state organization . So as October 1944 approaches , despite the June report prepared by their own General staff that said " It is time for us to end the war. " , Army leadership still desires a compromise peace that will allow them to keep some the gains of the war which the Allies will not accept . The special attack option has already been put forward to convince the Americans to consent . As USN is aware of the German preparations it is an hint that the Japanese can take the same route too . That is why the development of Okha starts in August 1944 . It is far more mobile than the operational German type , though resembles the Me 328 somewhat . Not surprising , the concept of suicide attacks on the industrial scale is an import to Japan anyhow ...
the battle of Leyte comes and goes . Army leadership now totally agrees to peace of the unconditional variety . But the thorn is now the Army of Kwantung . They have long tried to be a third force in Japan and they have their opening .
june 1945 , Russians are definitely massing for an attack in Asia . Japanese armour has not improved much since Khalkin Gol , their 100 ton tank project has gone nowhere , while the Russians have more "Animal Killers" , the ISU/ SU class assault tanks used in combination with the T-34/JS series that they need and all of them used by crews that have defeated the Wehrmacht . In 1945 Russians are the best Blitzkrieg force . Kwantung Army sees the light , Jukov is coming for them. That is about the period the Japanese Prime Minister offers some sort of a proposal to Western powers by using a Japanese idiom ; the Turkish translation sounds far different to the given English version that seems to suggest that Japanese were so offended by the unconditional peace terms that they refused to even talk about it . The use of the two atomic bombs have been always justified by the total Japanese intrasigience ; the reader might have read it somewhere that 28 million Japanese men were in the militia force in 1945 and the training included bow and arrows with bamboo spears . The antitank systems were to include small children with explosive backpacks as the Soviets had tried dogs in combat and they tended to cause friendly fire incidents . See , nukes in August 1945 are an eternal shame on part of the US of America ; the historians have often grumbled about the late intervention of Hirohito but he had already spoken in July . And the as the good offices of the Soviets could not be trusted ( Americans will definitely believe the Japanese proposal for peace given by their ambrassador in Moscow was not forwarded to the West ) there was a second set . How , when , where , why ı won't rightly know .
ı don't even know what drives me to challenge the history !
kamikazes were used to get a peace deal , one of compromise or later one of the "unconditional" type . And the troops of the Kwantung Army paid for their commanders political savvy dearly as their destruction went on unabated for a while even after the 15th of August .
anyhow for today's mumbo-jumbo:
am to try to avoid the impression of giving a lecture of history .How ı don't know but let me try it once . The idea might be dubious in any case ...
june 1944 , Japanese Navy is totally defeated in the Great Turkey Shoot of Marianas , the losses are so griveous that carriers are out of action until March '45 at the earliest . Allies have landed in Normandy , the summer offensive by the Russians is expected daily , it can be foreseen that Germany will be crushed which means the American forces in combat with the Japanese can easily double in 1945. One overrriding aspect of Japanese strategy in WW2 has been denying bases to B-29 class aircraft to keep Japan proper out of bomber range , even before the Superfortress itself existed . While a large offensive in China succeeds , there is no way that Marianas can be taken back . IJN agrees to peace .
now the Japanese Army and Navy give the resemblence of two countries in a close alliance , just like the US and UK . They are fighting common enemies but that just glosses over the fundemental differences between them , the in-fighting continues . Name the army that has an aircraft carrier and ocean going submarines . US Army has had only transport ships ... One of the Japanese commands had torpedo carrying amphibious tanks but ı forgot which. The reason is most probably lies the agreements between various clans united in toppling the Tokugawas , they carved their fiefdoms in the new state organization . So as October 1944 approaches , despite the June report prepared by their own General staff that said " It is time for us to end the war. " , Army leadership still desires a compromise peace that will allow them to keep some the gains of the war which the Allies will not accept . The special attack option has already been put forward to convince the Americans to consent . As USN is aware of the German preparations it is an hint that the Japanese can take the same route too . That is why the development of Okha starts in August 1944 . It is far more mobile than the operational German type , though resembles the Me 328 somewhat . Not surprising , the concept of suicide attacks on the industrial scale is an import to Japan anyhow ...
the battle of Leyte comes and goes . Army leadership now totally agrees to peace of the unconditional variety . But the thorn is now the Army of Kwantung . They have long tried to be a third force in Japan and they have their opening .
june 1945 , Russians are definitely massing for an attack in Asia . Japanese armour has not improved much since Khalkin Gol , their 100 ton tank project has gone nowhere , while the Russians have more "Animal Killers" , the ISU/ SU class assault tanks used in combination with the T-34/JS series that they need and all of them used by crews that have defeated the Wehrmacht . In 1945 Russians are the best Blitzkrieg force . Kwantung Army sees the light , Jukov is coming for them. That is about the period the Japanese Prime Minister offers some sort of a proposal to Western powers by using a Japanese idiom ; the Turkish translation sounds far different to the given English version that seems to suggest that Japanese were so offended by the unconditional peace terms that they refused to even talk about it . The use of the two atomic bombs have been always justified by the total Japanese intrasigience ; the reader might have read it somewhere that 28 million Japanese men were in the militia force in 1945 and the training included bow and arrows with bamboo spears . The antitank systems were to include small children with explosive backpacks as the Soviets had tried dogs in combat and they tended to cause friendly fire incidents . See , nukes in August 1945 are an eternal shame on part of the US of America ; the historians have often grumbled about the late intervention of Hirohito but he had already spoken in July . And the as the good offices of the Soviets could not be trusted ( Americans will definitely believe the Japanese proposal for peace given by their ambrassador in Moscow was not forwarded to the West ) there was a second set . How , when , where , why ı won't rightly know .
ı don't even know what drives me to challenge the history !
kamikazes were used to get a peace deal , one of compromise or later one of the "unconditional" type . And the troops of the Kwantung Army paid for their commanders political savvy dearly as their destruction went on unabated for a while even after the 15th of August .
