desensitizing yourself- good or bad?

[bhavv]

Not really a cool thing to joke about, though

Some people just face far more crap than others..

(And yes, people with BDD can do all sorts of horrible things to their own self, cause in their mind they mostly look nasty to begin with).

I disagree. BDD is no where close to the same level as anything else. Poverty? Starvation? Cancer? HIV? Depression?

BDD is like a bottom of the barrel condition, even if its real. It has a very simple treatment too - DONT INJECT YOUR FACE WITH COOKING OIL!

Of all possible medical conditions, we should have zero sympathy for self inflicted disorders, e.g. potential self damage from BDD, depression, drug abuse, making dumb youtube videos that will get you killed.

Self inflicted misery is the best form of misery to laugh at. And yea, that link also included Amy Winehouse, why people even sympathize for that inhumane chimp mixing meth, cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, alcohol and tobacco all together and dropping dead at 27 is beyond my comprehension.

 

[Kyriakos]

I disagree. BDD is no where close to the same level as anything else. Poverty? Starvation? Cancer? HIV? Depression?

BDD is like a bottom of the barrel condition, even if its real. It has a very simple treatment too - DONT INJECT YOUR FACE WITH COOKING OIL!

Of all possible medical conditions, we should have zero sympathy for self inflicted disorders, e.g. potential self damage from BDD, depression, drug abuse, making dumb youtube videos that will get you killed.

Self inflicted misery is the best form of misery to laugh at. And yea, that link also included Amy Winehouse, why people even sympathize for that inhumane chimp mixing meth, cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, alcohol and tobacco all together and dropping dead at 27 is beyond my comprehension.

That is not correct... For starters people with actual BDD are not 'vain' or other such stuff (unless it is a co-morbid state). Most of them seem to have quite delusional images of how their body is. And afaik the rate of suicide is higher in people with BDD than in those with any other illness.

Do you honestly think a human being would bring himself/herself to injecting their skin with cooking oil, if their mental state was not already only apt to be termed as 'nightmarish'?

 

[bhavv]

That kind of mental state is still insignificant to cancer, and worth making fun of when one injects cooking oil into their face.

Also I don't even believe that self injecting cooking oil into ones own face is a result of BDD, but rather sheer stupidity, as there is no one else in the world that has ever attempted to do that. Because despite having BDD, every other person with this condition has enough brain cells to realise that doing this would ruin their face not improve it.

 

[Kyriakos]

That kind of mental state is still insignificant to cancer, and worth making fun of when one injects cooking oil into their face.

Also I don't even believe that self injecting cooking oil into ones own face is a result of BDD, but rather sheer stupidity, as there is no one else in the world that has ever attempted to do that. Because despite having BDD, every other person with this condition has enough brain cells to realise that doing this would ruin their face not improve it.

Well... Cancer is insignificant next to having elephantiasis, so i suppose cancer is trivial too

Pain is not just of the mostly somatic kind. Psychological pain can be devastating. Fwiw some people with BDD prefer to die rather than be seen outside. I recall one in some forum once claiming that he contemplated wearing a balaclava always when outside his house, and when asked what he would do if the police stopped him he said that he might try to get them to just kill him, but would never take that off his (in his view monstrous) face.

 

[de Maistre]

That kind of mental state is still insignificant to cancer, and worth making fun of when one injects cooking oil into their face.

Also I don't even believe that self injecting cooking oil into ones own face is a result of BDD, but rather sheer stupidity, as there is no one else in the world that has ever attempted to do that. Because despite having BDD, every other person with this condition has enough brain cells to realise that doing this would ruin their face not improve it.

The fact that what she did to herself was so incredibly delusional and rare kind of proves that her condition was significant.

 

[bhavv]

Or it proves that she didn't have a condition, just a complete lack of brain cells.

 

[Rashiminos]

What if, in the eyes of god, those innocent NPCs killed in video games also count as people?

If god wants to update his legislation scripture for the twenty-first century, god is more than welcome to make his presence known to the unbelievers.

 

[bhavv]

Well... Cancer is insignificant next to having elephantiasis, so i suppose cancer is trivial too

Pain is not just of the mostly somatic kind. Psychological pain can be devastating. Fwiw some people with BDD prefer to die rather than be seen outside. I recall one in some forum once claiming that he contemplated wearing a balaclava always when outside his house, and when asked what he would do if the police stopped him he said that he might try to get them to just kill him, but would never take that off his (in his view monstrous) face.

The later shouldn't really be a problem, if Muslims can wear burkas why cant people with this condition wear balaclavas?

Or why not a medical mask? Maybe medical masks could be given to these people to help alleviate their fears.

Cancer jokes are funny to me to though, maybe I'm just an evil spawn of satan.

The thing is I don't understand why I should care, or be expected to care about other peoples suffering. You have doctors, nurses and other health care providers to tend to caring for these people in developed countries at least, that should be enough.

But I suppose in the case of BDD, there isn't enough support. As mentioned above, for the sufferer you mentioned, was a medical mask ever suggested or prescribed? Surely this would be a very simple and effective treatment?

 

[Kyriakos]

Or it proves that she didn't have a condition, just a complete lack of brain cells.

Know another person with no condition and/or no brain cells who was famously of the view he looked like all sorts of beasts or freaks?

I mean he even tried (twice) to marry Oscar Wilde...

 

[Rashiminos]

The thing is I don't understand why I should care, or be expected to care about other peoples suffering.

Absence of evidence or evidence of absence?* You decide.

Spoiler :

Something does seem to be missing here.

desensitizing yourself- good or bad?

Depends on what the goal is, or isn't.

 

[Borachio]

The thing is I don't understand why I should care, or be expected to care about other peoples suffering.

For the good of your soul.

Spoiler :

Apparently. Though I wouldn't know myself, as I'm fairly sure I don't have one.

Nor do I know what it might look like. Is it blue with frilly bits, do you think?

 

[bhavv]

I sold my soul already for half an already eaten cookie and a beer.

No wait, hush I didn't ...

WTS my soul.

 

[Traitorfish]

Just saying, "I don't understand why I should care about other people's suffering" translates pretty directly into "I am a sociopath". So, you might wanna re-word that one or whatever.

 

[bhavv]

Actually nvm. Yes I'm a sociopath and I wouldnt want to change that for anything.

But no, I do have a sense of moral responsibility and social conscience, I think.

My morality regarding suffering and death is just ... different. Everyone is going to die, the vast majority of people are going to suffer. Why should I care at all about each individual one?

 

[Kyriakos]

It is not as clear that 'the majority of people are going to suffer' insofar as 'it can only be that way', though.

In my view it rather is quite a negative achievement that the state of societies is so horrible, by now moreso. And i am not arguing in favor of some 'constructed utopia'; i merely note that it seems quite evident that current society can be hugely better if there are just less greedy/anti-human powermongers on top of the seats of public/governing power.

 

[bhsup]

What if, in the eyes of god, those innocent NPCs killed in video games also count as people?

They are not innocents. Those Forsworn have failed to render unto Caesar, for example. I am sure I can find justification for all the others quite easily. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some (heathen) Dalish Elves to feed to my werewolf buddies.

 

[nc-1701]

I disagree. BDD is no where close to the same level as anything else. Poverty? Starvation? Cancer? HIV? Depression?

BDD is like a bottom of the barrel condition, even if its real. It has a very simple treatment too - DONT INJECT YOUR FACE WITH COOKING OIL!

Of all possible medical conditions, we should have zero sympathy for self inflicted disorders, e.g. potential self damage from BDD, depression, drug abuse, making dumb youtube videos that will get you killed.

Self inflicted misery is the best form of misery to laugh at. And yea, that link also included Amy Winehouse, why people even sympathize for that inhumane chimp mixing meth, cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, alcohol and tobacco all together and dropping dead at 27 is beyond my comprehension.

I know your going to get pooped on for this, but I have to say I agree with you completely. Each time some washed up celebrity manages to self destruct (Micheal Jackson, Phillip Seymour Hoffman) just to add to your list, there's this outcry of sympathy.
I just don't get it, those weren't tragedies but self inflicted wounds because they were too weak to survive. Even with money and power.

 

[Borachio]

Actually nvm. Yes I'm a sociopath and I wouldnt want to change that for anything.

But no, I do have a sense of moral responsibility and social conscience, I think.

You may well have, but you're giving a very good impression of not having either.

My morality regarding suffering and death is just ... different. Everyone is going to die, the vast majority of people are going to suffer. Why should I care at all about each individual one?

I don't say you should.

But you seem to be saying more than that you don't. You seem to be implying that you shouldn't.

 

[Kyriakos]

^Worth noting that (obviously...) BDD is not really something each person has in a crucially similar way to the next.
I mean clinically afaik a person can be diagnosed with BDD and not be diagnosed with sensory delusions (eg they may view their body/parts of the body as 'they are' for others too, but have the view that they look strange/bad etc). Then you have BDD diagnosed people with very serious delusional perceptions, up to the point of having an extremely hot girl actually "seeing" a bloated monster in the mirror.
So it is not all the same, and some indeed can pretty much be (in their mind) living with horrible/abnormal bodies + the other people won't think they even believe it, which can cause even more problems. Think of seeing a girl with known BDD, telling her she looks great, and then getting the answer that she herself sees a freak in the mirror. Don't think it will go away cause you/others repeat what you see instead.



Link to video.

 

[Traitorfish]

I know your going to get pooped on for this, but I have to say I agree with you completely. Each time some washed up celebrity manages to self destruct (Micheal Jackson, Phillip Seymour Hoffman) just to add to your list, there's this outcry of sympathy.
I just don't get it, those weren't tragedies but self inflicted wounds because they were too weak to survive. Even with money and power.

"Too weak to survive"? Christ, what is this, the nineteenth century?