desensitizing yourself- good or bad?

I don't think desensitizing through entertainment media really works unless there are underlying reasons that aggrivate it.

You get desensitized towards games as you play it, sure, I remember playing GTA3 and going on those rampage missions where you have to get 30 decapitation headshots in a row with squirting blood animations and everything and thinking very little of it, when I saw that again recently I was a bit surprised. You don't really see that level of rewarding crazy violence in so mainstream games nowadays. I get a slightly weird feeling when watching what people do in GTA V now as well, but if I played it for a couple of hours I would probably think nothing of mowing down people in my car as most end up doing when playing it. It's interesting with the newer GTA's that everything is so much more realistic than earlier games that rewarding rampages in such an obvious fashion would probably be too off-putting that even rockstar wouldn't do it.

But in the end I think people can simply distinguish real violence from pretend violence on a basic level. I remember hearing somewhere that on an instinctual level fighting and self-preservation is an important factor in how humans play just like it obviously is in almost all other animals and this is one of the reasons violence is so prevalent in forms of entertainment. Your brain will interprit it purely as play rather than danger or aggression. Actually I think someone who has seen a lot of fake violence will be possibly even more shocked when faced with the real thing.

On the idea that it can highlight suffering in the third world and such, wouldn't that be more like sensitizing?

If you want to see a society desensitized to violence someone like a medieval citydweller would probably be extremely desensitized through regularly seeing helplessly diseased and injured people, public executions, torture and experiencing street violence, compared to a modern person who would flinch from watching the butcher of an animal he is about to eat.
 
The Internet isn't a good medium of translating the overall terribleness that is human life in some places ?
 
Regarding all those pictures regarding starving / poor kids etc, my solution and answer to that has always been - Dont breed.

The way to ensure that is to make sure parents have a reasonable standard of living. And then, hey presto!, birth rates plummet.

Isn't it strange?

But seriously, most famines are caused not by lack of food production but the disruption of that food production by conflict.
 
Desensitising yourself to all the worst things and growing a thick enough skin to tolerate any kind of insults etc is the best thing you can do.

As that nasty statue in Boston says (i assume if you pull a chord or something hanging out of its back or luggage) :

"The thousand injuries of Fortunato I had borne as I best could, but when he ventured upon insult, I vowed revenge".

Spoiler :
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What a stupid looking statue :(
 
Didn't Poe disappear in strange circumstances? I forget what they were.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Allan_Poe#Griswold.27s_.22Memoir.22
On October 3, 1849, Poe was found on the streets of Baltimore delirious, "in great distress, and... in need of immediate assistance", according to the man who found him, Joseph W. Walker.[69] He was taken to the Washington Medical College, where he died on Sunday, October 7, 1849, at 5:00 in the morning.[70] Poe was never coherent long enough to explain how he came to be in his dire condition, and, oddly, was wearing clothes that were not his own. Poe is said to have repeatedly called out the name "Reynolds" on the night before his death, though it is unclear to whom he was referring. Some sources say Poe's final words were "Lord help my poor soul."[70] All medical records, including his death certificate, have been lost.[71] Newspapers at the time reported Poe's death as "congestion of the brain" or "cerebral inflammation", common euphemisms for deaths from disreputable causes such as alcoholism.[72] The actual cause of death remains a mystery.[73] Speculation has included delirium tremens, heart disease, epilepsy, syphilis, meningeal inflammation,[3] cholera[74] and rabies.[75] One theory, dating from 1872, indicates that cooping – in which unwilling citizens who were forced to vote for a particular candidate were occasionally killed – was the cause of Poe's death.

Oooh. "Cooping".
 
I don't think games influence people that much. I do think growing up in a third world country will desensitize you. Homeless kids begging on the streets, amputees, dirty slums... we have to get used to all that to the point where it doesn't bother you anymore, otherwise you can't really carry on with normal life. My foreign relatives and friends who visited me in Brazil always got shocked at how indifferent we are to all the suffering, but it's not really not so much indifference as resignation and knowledge that the way to change it isn't through fainting at the sight of misery.
 
Ok really desensitized to seeing children begging and things like that but we're talking about violence.
 
Ok really desensitized to seeing children begging and things like that but we're talking about violence.

Well yeah in that case it depends on the country. I agree a lot of 3rd world countries aren't really violent at all. Mine was very violent, so I'm quite desensitized to it as well. I'm both used to seeing dead bodies on the streets and being the victim of violence (I've been robbed, held at gunpoint for two hours and stabbed).
 
Meh, when I went to India a couple of times, my mother literally took her shoe off and hit begging children who were trying to steal my peanuts.
 
Meh, when I went to India a couple of times, my mother literally took her shoe off and hit begging children who were trying to steal my peanuts.

Oh yeah, I can't even think of what growing up in India does to someone. Brazil is pretty bad, but compared to India it's like Monaco.

Violence-wise India isn't bad at all, though.
 
It was so mad though. I was 9 at the time. We go to a beach somewhere with camel rides, and mother buys me a large pack of peanuts. All of a sudden I'm swarmed and surrounded by starving zombie like kids ... 'we so hungry, gibe us your peanuts'.

Then mother is like 'NOOOOOOL, RAAAAGGGGEEEE GET AWAY FROM MAH BABY, EAT THE POWER OF A THOUSAND SHOE SLAPS PER SECOND'.

They would also grab you at the arms to make you pull away so a load of peanuts would drop out and fall in the sand, then they would eat the ones that fell ... Clever!
 
If you've ever been a public speaker or performer or big-time athlete, you know there is a right amount of anxiety to have before the big moment. Too much, and your nerves screw you up. Too little, and you have no adrenaline and are not at the top of your game. Similarly, EMT's and ER doctors need an appropriate level of (in)sensitivity, in order to properly and objectively assess the status of their patients, but at the same time you cannot blow off that this is a life-or-death matter and those patients have families.
 
Personally I think- at least here in America this is one of the softest generations of people ever, quite possibly the very softest. We have no idea how incredibly easy we have it (particularly compared to what people in so many other countries go through) and at least we can get a "virtual" replication of it through experiencing horrible things in movies or video games or stories.
It seems to me like such representations would further distance us from hardship, rather than bring the closer. If your only exposure to violence is through a managed, ritualised, wholly virtue and therefore fundamentally safe, then you're not going to take it very seriously.

If you want to give people some idea of hardship, you're better encouraging them to take up hiking and martial arts, something tangible, where actions have actual consequences.
 
The worst for me was Djibouti in Africa but I had been other places like Nicaragua where you can't eat outside without beggar kids coming. I'm not saying its like that all over the country but it was in Granada. Here it's common in the bazaar area but not that bad. Usually I just see like one or two and sometimes women who are entirely covered including their face who are begging. I really draw the line at people touching me and either loudly object or just keep walking quickly. Maybe that's not the best way to deal with it but that's what I do.

The most violent place I've lived was Guatemala followed by Costa Rica. I'm not counting Iraq because Kurdistan is not very violent. I was lucky nothing happened to me in Guatemala or Costa Rica but I heard enough bad things and had to always be really cautious. I also just stayed in each place 3 months and 6 months respectively. A lot of people don't know that about Costa Rica because there's a lot of tourism there but the crime in San Jose is really bad.
 
We have flight simulators, space simulators, battle simulators for soldiers, and cops have those trainers where you pull your guns on the bad guys but try not to accidentally do so on the good guys. The point is to train your muscle memory for those situations without yet enduring the consequences for making wrong decisions. But then that raises the question, why train on the simulator if you are neither a pilot, astronaut, soldier, or policeman?
 
Oh yeah, I can't even think of what growing up in India does to someone. Brazil is pretty bad, but compared to India it's like Monaco.

Violence-wise India isn't bad at all, though.

It seems it is the billion-people country with the most web promoted stories about gang-rape. Also some rarer stuff, such as people using corpses as food. And by that i mean dug-up corpses. And more than 100 of them.

I suppose it is not a 'violent' crime, but very bleak :p
 

from the all-knowing Wiki said:
Herodotus (3.38) mentions funerary cannibalism among the Callatiae, a tribe of India.

Enough said :)

I think the more prominent term is Necrophagia/Necrophagy. Endocannibalism seems to just place the social group where the cannibalistic action takes place (in this case the same, closed/bounded community) but not refer to whether the people eaten were dead due to other reason than some mouths attacking their throat. :)
 
Didn't Brevik successfully desensitize himself with fake violence?

If you want to do anything, rehearsing it virtually, whether mentally or through a video simulation, isn't a terrible idea.
 
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