I don't want a system that details every situation and what actions should be taken in that situation. I want Leaders that have the flexibility to lead and to have a sense that they are not just robots performing a function. Like I said earlier, I like our DG3 system except that there needs to be a few more details. We have seen the problem areas with this rule set. There have been a couple of attempts to fix them that have failed. One example of what our current system needs is defined repsonsibilities for the leaders. I think we could proceed by taking one of 4 different rulesets and going though it to modify what we want. The 4 rulesets are: DG2, DG3, ravensfire DG4 frameworks, and FortyJ's proposal. One is very detailed, one is not, and the other 2 seem in between. Of course, by starting with one of those it does mean we are locked into anything within, but it gives a place to start. It seems that in most projects the hardest part is coming up with the first draft. Well, we have 4 first drafts to pick from. Lets pick one and start working.