Did Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven have backwards messages?

I've seen that before and the answer is no. While it's true that if you rewind it you'll get backwards messages Led Zeppelin obviously didn't put them in there purposely. When you think about the way people say and pronounce "satan" it's really not that hard to end up saying it backwards without knowing it.
 
the rest of the song backwards is just giberish but satan is not the only word, what are the odds of over 30 words making some sense backwards in one patch of the song
 
Originally posted by aaminion00
When you think about the way people say and pronounce "satan" it's really not that hard to end up saying it backwards without knowing it.

Natas often as you might think.
 
Why anyone would bother to make the effort to put satanic messages in music is beyond me. Does it even work? Is there any proof that people can get subliminal messages from words said in backwards music?

Now the whole Dark Side of the Moon-Wizard of Oz thing, THAT'S weird. :p
 
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Are there backwards messages in Stairway to Heaven?



You're far from the first to ask. This rumor has persisted ever since a California committee of parents and religious leaders set out to prove that rock music was leading our children down the path to the devil. For reasons still unknown to rational minds, they decided to play some albums backwards, and professed to hear all sorts of messages in songs like Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust," anything and everything by Styx and ELO, Rush's "Anthem," the Stones' "19th Nervous Breakdown," Skynyrd's "Freebird," The Eagles' "Hotel California," and most notably the (at that point) most-requested rock song of all time, Led Zeppelin's "Stairway To Heaven."


definition is useful here -- "backmasking" is the process of either: 1) recording a backwards message on a track meant to be played forwards, or 2) the "hiding" of messages within forward phrases so that, when played backwards, another phrase is revealed.



So does backmasking exist? Andy Johns, the producer of IV, says that not only is "backmasking" a myth, but that there was no such nonsense while he was present. Certainly, since the advent of the "backmasking" scandal, groups such as ELO and Pink Floyd have used the technique to poke fun at people who would actually play records backwards. Most of the bands named in such accusations tend to ignore the outcry, for as Jones commented in Rolling Stone, there's absolutely no arguing someone out of something they really want to believe. But the idea of backmasking is uniformly considered ludicrous by musicians and producers alike, and they're the ones that would be responsible for the process. Despite the denials of the people involved, let's assume that these messages do exist. Are they effective? If they were subliminal messages played forward, then scientists agree that the brain could and would process the information. But scientists are also convinced that the brain cannot decipher backwards information unless it is specifically engaged for that purpose. Therefore, even if backmasking did exist, it would be useless. So much for Satanic intent. And specifically, as regards "Stairway To Heaven" -- there are many messages that various groups have claimed to hear while playing the song backwards, but the most uniformly cited is the phrase "Here's to my sweet Satan." Not all listeners that hear backward phrases are in agreement here, however, and not even close to all who hear the song backwards hear any message at all. Many of those who do hear "something" dismiss it as a mere phonetic coincidence. And few of those who do hear the actual message were unaware of the accusations against Zeppelin and "Stairway To Heaven" before they listened to the song. Therefore, overwhelming evidence supports the conclusion that such messages do not exist, and if they did they would be useless, and even if they weren't they are almost assuredly accidents aided by the power of suggestion. But still, this rumor will not die. Often, a listener will comment, "I heard the message, and it's really there, but I think it's just an accident." This is faulty reasoning. If the message is a phonetic accident, then the message is not really "there"--instead, a series of sounds that are _similar_ to the phrase "here's to my sweet Satan" are all that are embedded in the lyrics. If the message is really there, then it cannot be an accident, for a phonetic reversal of the lyrics ("There's still time to change the road you're on") does not produce the correct vowel and consonant sounds (even _given_ Plant's pronunciation) for the phrase in question. So unless one believes that the message is there on purpose (despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary), one _must_ conclude that the message is not "there"--purposefully or accidentally.
 
!yaw on
 
Sure, why not? Jimmy Page was pretty well-known for having a strong interest in the occult, AND he was very technically proficiant in the studio (in terms of engineering, not just music). Not hard to imagine him doing something like this.

Is it for real, though? I dunno. Back in the day, I spun a few records backwards ... and that line near the end of the song DOES sound strange. Not conclusive, but freaky all the same when you're huddled around the record player with your buddies in the dark, trying to see if that weird hermit painting really glows in the dark.

Ah, those were the days. Just think of all we've lost by going digital ...
:)
 
Judas Preist had the strangest music played backwards I've ever heard.
I would not put these techniques past anyone looking to further their album sales.
Wether they did or not does'nt really matter to me,anyone stupid enough to take any of it seriously is a fool.
 
I have heard the backward version with my own ears, after my roommate reversed the song on his computer.

There are some discernible lines which one can make out but most of it sounds very vague.

The lines which you can make out talk about Satan,and so on. I never knew this song had such connotations when my roommate played the song backwards.

Weird actually.
 
The only backwards message I've confirmed myself is Motörhead's Nightmare the Dreamtime. I spun the vinyl backwards to hear what the fudge it was. Oh those glorious days of vinyl. :(
 
Interesting, very interesting. Though it is easier to make out the "Satanic" verses if you listen to it, while reading the ones the guy posted.
 
Come to think of it, I recognized the words only when my roommate told me what they were:hmm:

Still, I'm no devil worshipper or Satanist, just because I listen to that song almost every other day in the hostel:satan::p
 
Pah!

As a veteran rocker, I can tell you that anything is fair game in the world of selling records.

My trained ear has heard these so-called backwards messages, and they are indeed gibberish.

Iron Maiden and Priest have both been accused of this thing too.
And as a life long fan, I can say these chaps are not into this 'satan.'

These musicians are family men and business men.

Also, they are far too cynical and world-wise to even care about the flipside of christianity.

They care only about making rock music.

Backwards messages?
In my experience, (which goes back almost 20 years)
I have found they are either an intentional joke by the band,
or garbage invented by those clowns who try and make JC's face out in mountain snow drifts or clouds.

I am happy to debunk that myth.
 
"As a veteran rocker ..."

I have never heard of you. Maybe I'm just out of the loop, though. What songs did you do?
 
hmm wonder if they checked out the "Christian Rock" (i.e. Stryper). Would be really interesting if they found something there. Would just be more interesting considering they are toted as "Christian Rock" ;)
 
Only one way to find out...

*Reverse plays P.O.D. MP3*
*Eyes roll backwards into head*
:mwaha: :devil2:
 
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