Diplo for D'nut

[Tubby Rower]

in our gmail box

Hey the treaty is signed and now enforcedable. Just post all the text below in what ever thread you want to keep it. the only difference is the last bit the signiture page, it now has our signed copy.

Cheers

Nobody

Spoiler treaty with KISS :

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Article 1


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Article 3


signature page

 

[scoutsout]

I just went to download the save and there was a note from 'nuts in the inbox. Apparently I forgot to hit "accept" after I "sent" construction...

I sent a note of PERSONAL apology to their turnplayer... but whoever is handling the diplo stuff with 'nuts... it might not be a bad idea to check with their emissary.

My apologies to the team.

 

[Whomp]

Scout when you send construction say "accept" then send and exit.

 

[scoutsout]

Scout when you send construction say "accept" then send and exit.

I got that figured out.

On a related note... we're 2 turns from Engineering... a little MM magic and the FP build sped it up. Do the terms of our treaty obligate us to send it to them immediately on completion?

 

[Daghdha]

2.6
Technology will be traded as each one is researched

To me that means Yes, or rather Turn it off and pile some cash while waiting on Nuts to catch up .

 

[Whomp]

I think we should start in on the cheaper of the two researched techs by TNT and MIA. Mono and feud. My preference would be feud so we can research invention (towards a MT beeline) and they can hit chivalry afterwards.

 

[Tubby Rower]

Yeah, and if we are researching Fued while they research Mono, we could look at maybe getting them to start in on Chilvary for a little better unit to stomp on MIA's toes.

Cash would be nice for rushing, but since peace is going to be the word of the day for 40 or so turns with MIA, I think that normal production could handle a little skirmishing over against TNT. Also I'd rather be rushing knights than GS.

 

[scoutsout]

I like Feudalism over Monotheism... mainly because we some Pikes, and we need it to move towards Invention.

I'm not so fond of Knights in this one. They will be tough to root out of their citites with all those cheap hoplites. For the cost of 2 Knights I can have 2 MDI, a Trebuchet, and a Pikeman.

Couple a traditional Middle Ages combined arms stack with the speed of our Gallic Swords... and we could fight an absolutely lethal combined arms campaign. The siege would go something like this:

• Bombard with Trebuchets.
• Attack the healthier defensive units with the Gallic Swords. All I want to do is knock a few hit points off... use them like lethal trebuchets.
• Finish the enemy garrison with MDI.

In the defense I would probably do the opposite; lead with the MDI and finish with the fast units.

 

[grahamiam]

well, if we're gonna drag along pikes, we might as well take LB's instead of MDI's. We get the same attack power plus we get additional defensive bombards, making the stack practically untouchable, unless you're thinking that we'll use MDI's in defensive positions. Could use GS's to pillage the path as the stack moves (or as the def. 2 unit in the stack), and pop redlined pike's and MDI's that may be running around.

 

[scoutsout]

@Grahamiam: Good point on the longbows... My thinking is that I'd keep queueing up Gallics until I can't anymore, since the GS->MDI is a freebie upgrade. Assuming we have a golden age before Invention, the only MDI I'll queue up will be post GA/Feudalism and pre-Invention.

What do you think about this whole TNT expedition? Though I see the logic... I don't want to become so distracted by it that we fail to take care of business against MIA...

 

[Crakie]

What do you think about this whole TNT expedition? Though I see the logic... I don't want to become so distracted by it that we fail to take care of business against MIA...

Excellent point! I see two main reasons for taking on TNT:
1) Keeping us entertained
2) Triggering the GA

This being said, we ARE hurting MIA's research partner and in so doing, increase our chances of a succesful cavalry campaign.

All in all there's a delicate balance to strike. Let's not go all out, and keep building the infrastructure.

 

[Daghdha]

Excellent point! I see two main reasons for taking on TNT:
1) Keeping us entertained
2) Triggering the GA

This being said, we ARE hurting MIA's research partner and in so doing, increase our chances of a succesful cavalry campaign.

All in all there's a delicate balance to strike. Let's not go all out, and keep building the infrastructure.

If that be the case, and I garee, we should
a) send a stack big enough to raze one TNT core city immediately
b) "Give us what we want or be erased"
c)
d) go back home with a sack full of goodies and start building for the
MIA showdown

 

[Crakie]

Sounds like a plan to me, Daghie! But let's see how many cities we can take with the stack.

 

[Daghdha]

Yessir, my point is we should not stay stuck in a position where we have to ship reinforcements multiple times but go for a really quick and heavy first strike and, as you pointed out, take as much as we can in a few rounds. The optimal size of SoD would be enough to make TNT believe we could cripple them big time, but not neccesarily doing it all the way.The whole mission would be completed in good time before the peace with MIA expires and we would have all our troops back ('cept for possible garrison if we don't raze).

 

[Crakie]

I completely agree Dagh. Discussion moved here.

 

[scoutsout]

@Whichever one of us Idiots is serving as emmisary to the Doughnutians:

Please inform the Doughnut leadership that our Turnplayer Idiot (that's me) sent them Engineering with the latest save. We have started on Feudalism. If they would be so kind as to start in on Monotheism, we won't duplicate efforts, yadda yadda...etc.

 

[Daghdha]

@Whichever one of us Idiots is serving as emmisary to the Doughnutians:

Please inform the Doughnut leadership that our Turnplayer Idiot (that's me) sent them Engineering with the latest save. We have started on Feudalism. If they would be so kind as to start in on Monotheism, we won't duplicate efforts, yadda yadda...etc.

Consider it done.

 

[Tubby Rower]

Daggie sent the message and Kunnigas replied that their unit support is killing them. He said that Mono will be their next target, but never specified a start turn on it.

 

[Whomp]

This was a turn or two before we finished engineering.

Kuningas, Robi and Nobody,

Welcome to the MA's!
I don't think we discussed which tech you were going to research in the MA. If you already started just let us know since we will finish engineering in either 1 or 2. We'd like to research feud but if you've already started no probs. Also let us know when you get a harbor in so we can start talking about some lux trade.

Whomper

We are researching Monotheism. Can't tell you how long it will take until we establish a govt. which should be this turn

 

[scoutsout]

Good deal. Tell 'em not to get in any big hurry. Just wanted to make sure we weren't duplicating effort.