Diplomatic Relations

The keys to any successful military operation are accurate intelligence, and well thought out plans (I wish the Bush administration knew this.) You need the first before you can do the second. We need to start preparing for war, but we can't do a thing without some intel on our opponent.

I think by the time we can execute a war, both UUs will be obsolete.
 
I posted my IM conversation with Kentharu on a new thread. Go check it out.

We are attempting to meet at 10:30 am EST (2:30 pm GMT, right?). Fe333au and Kentharu will be present (we hope).
 
If possible, I'd love to show up (assuming having a room full of anarchists isn't counterproductive). My presence would be more personally amussing than broadly helpful.

At any rate, I am downlaoding MSM on my other computer as we speak (at a blazing 3.2 KB per second - Yeah, Baby!)
 
Daghdha said:
We can of course save a travel agent to trigger a GA later in the game...
We better save several just in case our first one doesn't make the kill.
 
For my side, I think cooperation is in order right now. We HAVE to grow faster than the other continent.

Landing a SOD there is quite important. If we go into a war, and the other side is stronger than us. They'll land here and kick our but.

We'll fight for our land.

This type of cooperation takes effort and will, (regular screenshots of where the other team stack is), but I think is the way to win this game.
 
barbu do you want in on the discussion?
 
barbu1977 said:
For my side, I think cooperation is in order right now. We HAVE to grow faster than the other continent.

Landing a SOD there is quite important. If we go into a war, and the other side is stronger than us. They'll land here and kick our but.

We'll fight for our land.

This type of cooperation takes effort and will, (regular screenshots of where the other team stack is), but I think is the way to win this game.
An experienced pbem'er has spoken and i believe you're right. If effort and will it what it takes, then effort and will we show. In order to do just that i suggest we send a Thank You-greeting card to mia just to summarize our view on yestrdays negotiations. I chisel one out here so you all can read and comment and correct flawed english.

Honored Representatives of the Greek People
The Celts are celebrating today and our musicians compose beautiful pieces about the strenght in unity. We feel you should know about this since you are part of the reason for theese joyous expressions.
The negotiation held was a tough one as should be between strong and healthy tribes. We believe the resulting agreement show that the effort made was well spent.
Since we are hoping for further, fruitful discussions we do have some concerns that we strongly suggest be sorted out. On both sides of the camp fire, the tone at times got a bit, shall we say...un-cooperative. Our standing on that matter is that some of the Greece representatives were badly adviced regarding information that could facilitate agreement. Some things are a matter of liking and wishing, some are facts, and the two better not be mixed carelessly as did Your representative. A few honorable Celtic representatives displayed a disliking of this unsuspected behaviour and in such a way that an apology may be in place. If so, we do apologize. We also suggest You do, as we do, an evaluation of the meeting in question, and based upon that send representatives that shows the wisdom and knowledge shown by the Greek Emperor.
To build a strong and trustworthy relation you must have patience, courage and will. If our shared continent can show that, then others shall sleep lightely in fear of what the future may bring. We Green People, light as dark, on the other hand shall sleep well after developing our beautiful continent in peace and knowing that no ill intentions can take a foothold on our shores for as long as our friendship is strong.

Signed by I'm Not Sure

How about it? A lil sweet, a lil sour. I think it reads that the "snotty" comments made by sw and tubs were well put, w/o actually saying so. I think EmpNap corrected his fellows when he got in and saw that they we're out of line.
 
Daghdha said:
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Honored Representatives of the Greek People
The Celts are celebrating today and our musicians compose beautiful pieces about the strength in unity. We feel you should know about this since you are the reason for theese joyous expressions.

The negotiation held was a tough one as should be between strong and healthy tribes. We believe the resulting agreement DEMONSTRATES that the effort made was well spent.

On both sides of the camp fire, the tone at times got a bit, shall we say...un-cooperative. WE FEEL WE OWE YOU an apology.

THE WISDOM AND PATIENCE SHOWN BY EMPNAPOLEAN SHOULD BE A MODEL TO US ALL. To build a strong and trustworthy relation you must have patience, courage and will. If our shared continent can show that, then others WILL sleep FITFULLY in fear of what the future may bring. We Green People, light as dark, on the other hand shall sleep as we develop our beautiful continent in peace knowing that no ill intentioned ruffians can SEIZE foothold on our shores for as long as our friendship is strong.

Signed by I'm Not Sure

My emendations are in caps. In general, nicely done Daghda
 
Sorry about being snotty in my comments yesterday, guys. no excuse just apology.
 
I will take the hit on this one. By inviting too many cooks in the kitchen I let it get out of hand. When Bede left I should have limited the number of you into the conversation. Someone has said that 3 reps should be the max. I would like to have the rest of you on another IM for behind the scenes numbers, thoughts etc. but in the conversation was a little too much. With that said, I have sent a pm to Rambuchan and have requested him to be our liasion. I trust him and he can talk without muck in his mouth. :eek: In the meantime, I would suggest we forward Daghie's message to Fe3333au after it is cleaned up a bit. Maybe Daghie can make the recommended adjustments to his message in that post.
 
yes. sorry about outbursts, just thought they were mild-ish (what i really wanted to say, would have be *MODERATOR ACTION*ed ;))
i meant good,

IIRC i suggested just 3 reps. but no real harm done.

rambuchan is a solid nice guy. good choice whomp.

the message could be spell checked, and i agree with bede's additions.
 
Sorry, I could not attend, I would have loved to be there. Unfortunatly I was short on time and I did not have any contacs to reach it.

What we did at CDZ for diplo chat with another Tribe was the following:
You have 2 conversation going on:

In one conversation, The other team, 2 reps and 1 trascriptor

In the other conversation, the 2 reps, all the cooks that want a word, the transcriptor who copies what is hapening at the other conversation. In this conversation, it would be nice also to have a person who leads the conversation to make sure we stick to the point.

Finaly, a prechat thread is normaly usefull to make sure everybody agrees on the basics.
 
Barbu, looks like we posted similar ideas simultaneously in different threads. I think you expressed it better than I did. :)
 
We did have a second chat open. The entire conversation was copied & Pasted over until I realized that everyone in our "conference room" was also in the room with MIA. So we stopped copying it over. I wish I had saved that thread too. Oh well.


(Posted in MIA meeting too)
 
barbu, we had a very similar set up.

and aother idea i've had chating with Dagh.
i think we want a "hot-head" on he team reps, throwing snarky remarks.
it will make them think were acting more out of impulse than straight numbers logic.
it will also help ease tensions when neccesary.

something similar to what i did, but maybe a cooler person.
also when our "bad seed" throws some innuendoes about "reprisals", "revenge", "blood baths" or whatever, it will keep reminding them they cannot push us too far.

job will need to be discussed further to establish parameters, and ofcourse during the talks, in the hidden TK chat.

your thoughts?
 
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