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I've thought of something the non-coders can do: find music and art. That will be pretty time-consuming and not necessary right away, but if you someone has some sparetime, it will be gone quickly (the sparetime that is :D)
 
Well, we could use Music from the Movies. Art wise, I could try getting some stuff. Are we looking at using a mix of Art and Live images from the Movies (i.e. Art for Cirdan, image of Viggo as Aragorn from the movies, or just all art).
 
I think I would prefer all art.
 
I have the whole Complete Soundtracks to all the movies (as in every single second of music from the entire thing, including extended edition), so if you need movie music, I've got it. I can probably find it too, I've listened to a lot of it a lot. However, as things are right now I can't post any sound files, I don't know where to upload them.
We had a discussion a long time ago about diplo music, I can find it and post a list if you want. (EDIT: NVM, I have no idea where it is.)

I think all art for stuff that pops up a lot like leaderheads and stuff, but some of the wonder movies might need movie clips.
 
Should we start up a music thread, or combine it with a (needed) Leaders/Heroes thread?

And PMing now.
 
Things are starting to become quite hectic around here. I think we need a Mod Leader. Someone who can make final decisions, really no matter what anyone else thinks (though, of course concensus would be preferable).

There are at least 7 of us and we all really seem to have our own ideas on how this mod should be progressing. We need to have a final arbitrator.

We really have no finalized sections again now, except for Alignment as far as I can tell.

I personally feel that we need to have certain things sort of cast in stone to be able to proceed or a lot of Modding time will get taken up on things that will just get thrown out.

So, what do you guys think?

EDIT: I have also backed up all current lists, just in case something happens and we lose the information.
 
Agreed. (10chars)
 
Agreed.

I'm not at home tonight, but will go through the threads a bit more thorough tonight, and post my thoughts on the situation.
 
Agreed. We have been opening up discussions which were, in my opinion, already closed and dealt with. The vote idea is a good one to sort things out. Furthermore I would suggest maybe to make a list of exactly who can do what for the mod (programming, ideas, art, etc.) because to me that is not completely clear. Also we have to make sure we restrict the first batch of modding to a managable level, e.a. civilizations, leaders, UUs, UBs, unitlist and tech tree.
 
That is what I was talking about. Make it relatively simple first. Let's get the working and going. Then we start adding in further developments and upgrades/tweaks, etc. It doesn't have to be "FFH-Middle Earth" right from the get go, it can "The Arda Mod". We can just make sure to do further releases and updates as we get things done.
 
Yes I agree. Let's try to get the programming thing sorted out: I can do modding (xml, python and SDK should be possible). I also have some experience in setting up a project, maybe that will help. From the discussion I know Sengir can also do the modding (xml, python and SDK). The rest, I'm honestly not that sure. Please post this here, so we can get a feeling of who can do what (and ideas, art, etc. are also very important).
 
Agreed with all above.

I can't do much programming or art, I can do some very minor XML but not much more. I can provide music and maybe SFX, and I know the source material pretty well (I used to be totally obsessed with it).
Basically, I can contribute much more to discussion than construction, except I have music.
 
Ok, let's get this out.

I do agree that some kind of leader is needed. This leader should only have the final vote in case of a tie, otherwise the majority counts. After a vote, only a 2/3 majority will be enough to bring something back under vote, otherwise we'll keep voting for ever. The voting should be stuctured. While I liked the sudden voting thread, I think it's better to have a set day of the week on which votes will be held, with a timeframe of 48h, so as to give everyone the opportunity to vote (no people can say that they didn't know there was going to be a vote). The leader should be the one to put the vote up, but I think he should check with at least one other person to make sure the questions are clear (this should probably be done by pm/im).
Also, being a leader takes responsibility: the leader should be online pretty often, more then once a week. The leader should want to be a leader as well, so even though I a couple of candidates in my head, I'm not going to name them: they should put themselves forward. It is useless to have a leader who doesn't want to be a leader. That said, please don't be shy, and put yourselve forward if you think yourselve capable of it.

As we haven't got any structured voting going yet, I propose that people can put themselves up as candidate for some amount of time (48h), after which a vote will be held. I'm not sure what the best way to handle this is, some form of anonymous voting might be needed, though it might not.

(also, it should be possible to get rid of the leader :D, I propose unanimity-1)




Now for the other question:
As Berenthor mentioned, I can do xml, python and SDK, but we might want to set up a different thread for this list, and only this list.
 
One more thing (tm)
I'm not proposing myself as leader. I'm doing this as a way getting frustration out of my system and am not willing to be the deciding factor in discussions at the moment, that will only end up in me being more frustrated (not good, trust me on this one). Besides that, I might be moving house not to long from now (not sure yet, but I hope so), which would violate one of the rules I outlined above. Even if we decide to drop the rule, I'm going to keep it for myself ;)
 
The Vote thread will now be for this vote. Then it should be deleted.

I would suggest that we can put names up until Tuesday at 8pm. EST. Then the Vote will be held from 8pm EST Tuesday until 8pm EST Thursday. That gives us approximately 52 hours to submit your name. Then it gives 48 hours for the Vote.

I will leave this open for debate before Putting up the vote around 8pm EST tonight to let people have their say as to whether or not to do this.
 
Ok, fair enough.

One of the things that the leader should do is managing the threads: getting things stickied and keeping the discussion in the proper threads. Despite valiant efforts we seem to be getting all over the place again :D
 
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