DLC and expansion speculation

[lacond]

Warning, this thread is clearly speculation.

So, according there is any good chances we'll have two leaders by civ (great thing!),
and
according with the fact that base game is (more or less) european colored ( for the moment)
and
considering the importance of the map ( geography etc...)

there is many thing to sell! and there is many way to do it.

So we need to specul about the DLC and expansion strategy. there's many possibility for example,

1) Civ's are all in DLC and expansions serve to introduce news leaders
2 New leaders are given for free!
3) New leaders are all in DLC and expansions serve to introduce civs who share the same cultural area ( more than the same history)
4) not at all, there is no second leader for each civ and marketing will be the same as CIV V.
5) not at all, civ's will be added to increase or change the game mechanic more than every other consideration.

And you, what do you think guys?

 

[Kouvb593kdnuewnd]

I think they may go for geographical expansions. Maybe one that bring in Ottomans, Persia and maybe the Mughal empire and another one for Native americans. They would also likely have scenarios for these new civs that play out in their geographical area.

 

[Vaclac]

I think one obvious candidate would be a colonization/new world themed expansion, so this would bring back Portugal and Netherlands, as well as Native American civs and Maya and Inca. Would be cool if it expanded on trade route mechanics and developed some mechanic where in the mid-game it started to be profitable to establish outposts all over the world, but that by the late-game these become too much to maintain from afar and rebel/become their own nations, and/or city states.

 

[Metecury]

I bet we will get a few leaders before the major expansion along with a few maps and scenarios. After that some major expansion with a ton of civs and new mechanics + new units/techs/civics



Of course we should get an Italian civ covering renaissance and post unification italy (similar to Germany). Italy is long overdue.


Also I'm hoping for mercenaries to make it in, I mean we have a whole civic dedicated to them!



Oh and more government types. Those are coming for sure.

 

[stealth_nsk]

The key point of DLC is its value for players. For example, Isabella alone is not a good selling point. So, my guess for some time is leader DLC with 3-4 of them, with Washington (Minutemen) and Henry V (Longbowmen) being in. Isabella is likely to be inside. This will not be the first, though.

One of the first DLC will surely be Poland, probably with some scenarios.

Speaking about the rest - developers still have Mongols and Persia not included, despite their importance.

Persia would fit well with some Greco-Persian Wars scenario as we have 2 leader for Greece to be used there.

The fourth DLC I hope to be Mongols.

 

[nunor]

I think one obvious candidate would be a colonization/new world themed expansion, so this would bring back Portugal and Netherlands, as well as Native American civs and Maya and Inca. Would be cool if it expanded on trade route mechanics and developed some mechanic where in the mid-game it started to be profitable to establish outposts all over the world, but that by the late-game these become too much to maintain from afar and rebel/become their own nations, and/or city states.

My thoughts too. I was thinking of these civs:
Maya (Pakal)
Inca (Pachacuti)
Tupi (Cunhambebe)
Iroquois (Jigonhsasee)
Powhatan (Wahunsenacawh)
Portugal (Joao II)
Dutch (William of Orange)

Maybe even some new leaders for England and France (Elizabeth and François I?) and Isabella for Spain, since she's going to be in anyway.

 

[stealth_nsk]

The key point of DLC is its value for players. For example, Isabella alone is not a good selling point. So, my guess for some time is leader DLC with 3-4 of them, with Washington (Minutemen) and Henry V (Longbowmen) being in. Isabella is likely to be inside. This will not be the first, though.

One of the first DLC will surely be Poland, probably with some scenarios.

Speaking about the rest - developers still have Mongols and Persia not included, despite their importance.

Persia would fit well with some Greco-Persian Wars scenario as we have 2 leader for Greece to be used there.

The fourth DLC I hope to be Mongols.

I forgot one thing. A good selling point for Leaders DLC would be alternative leader for India. So, I expect 4 leaders to be in leader DLC.

 

[ProMeTheus112]

I would like Celts and Iroquois^^ and maybe more african and asian ancient civs like the Khmer

 

[lacond]

I think they may go for geographical expansions. Maybe one that bring in Ottomans, Persia and maybe the Mughal empire and another one for Native americans. They would also likely have scenarios for these new civs that play out in their geographical area.

that's my feeling too.
But I wonder how the geographical theme could introduce some new development in the game. It would never exactly justified.

For example, we could imagine an asian pack which bring some new rules and possibilities to developp your cities to a megalopolis (as Japan)

Or, we can imagine some Ocean expansion with civ who have history and geography closed to water ( portugal, venice, but also ottoman and an east african civ)

Howewer, my first bet is that second leaders will be for free ( In addons)... In fact, this is my hope!

 

[ProMeTheus112]

yeah tbh I don't rly like the concept of DLC, I'm not sure I ever bought any
expansion I'm ok with that if the base game is awesome and the expansion real solid

 

[KrikkitTwo]

Some "collections" either as DLC or parts of expansions

New World*
Inca, Maya, Iroquois, Sioux, Portugal, bonus leaders for France (Louis), ?Spain, ?England (Elizabeth), America (Washington)

Mongol rise/Medieval E Asia***
Mongol(2 Leaders), Korea, Indo/Poly/Maori, 2 of Khmer/Vietnam/Siam, Medieval leader for China

Cradle of civ
Persia, Babylon, ?Phoenecia?, Alexander, Ancient Leader for India

Wars of Religion/W Asia+Europe***
Ottomans, Late medieval Leaders for India, European civs that are missing one (including Byzantium leader that can be with Roman or Greek civ)

Africa/Imperialism*
Ethiopia, Ghana/Mali/Songhai/Nok, Zimbabwe/Zulu, Dutch, bonus Industrial era leaders for Japan, China, India

World Wars /Modern Era**
WW II leaders for US, Russia, UK, France, China, Japan, Germany(Bismark), add Austria, Italy, Argentina/Mexico


* connection to vassal/colony mechanic
**connection to new world congress mechanic
***connection to enhanced interaction with conquered cities (assimilation, etc.)

 

[ehecatzin]

I think it will be a mix. As in DLC adding a couple of new civs and a new leader for an existing one, which would explain the civs that were left out, and the newcomers and new leaders on civ6. (Then focus on a ratio of 2 leaders per new civ on expansion to balance it out).

So you'd get for example:

Seven Cities of Gold DLC: Includes the Maya and Inca civilizations and Isabela as new leader for Spain. (they also already have the Aztecs in game by then).

Mongol Terror DLC: Includes Mongolia and Korea civilizations, new leader for China, and again, Japan is already in (with the appropiate leader)

King of Kings DLC Includes Persia and Babylon civilizations, also new leader for Egypt, and Sumeria and Scythia are already in.

Fight for Freedom DLC Includes Iroquois and Cherokee civilization, America gets Washington back, France and England are already in.

etc.

Maybe it's just me , but I think they really are gearing up for a bunch of DLC's to come.

 

[anandus]

Of course we should get an Italian civ covering renaissance and post unification italy (similar to Germany). Italy is long overdue.

With Italy they could do something similar to Greece, choose two city states and pick the leaders from those. Eg. Florence & Milan with Medici and Sforza. Although another Medici might be overkill.

 

[ehecatzin]

With Italy they could do something similar to Greece, choose two city states and pick the leaders from those. Eg. Florence & Milan with Medici and Sforza. Although another Medici might be overkill.

It would also solve the Rome as capital problem people keep bringin up against Italy, and would also create a nice contrast of playstyles, just like Athens vs Sparta.

As for another Medici being overkill I don't think it would be much of a problem, by then we may also have another leader for France, kind of inevitable with multi leaders.

 

[MadDjinn]

Most likely the expansions would be mechanics based, and have a few scenarios that fit those mechanics, and then the civs needed (or alt leaders) would be chosen for them.

Else, dlc could go in any direction really. Geography, pure leader changes, scenario based, etc.

 

[Hans Castorp]

MadDjinn's point taken, but to continue the fantasising... how about a Mughal India-centred Indian Ocean scenario, introducing Portugal, Dutch and Indonesia, as well as alternate leaders for India and maybe England? Could run from C15th to C18th. Be a bit different from America-focused colonization sencarios...

 

[ehecatzin]

Most likely the expansions would be mechanics based, and have a few scenarios that fit those mechanics, and then the civs needed (or alt leaders) would be chosen for them.

Yeah I don't think it will be DLC's only, expansions after all are the best way to get new mechanicas and large chunks of base content out.

MadDjinn's point taken, but to continue the fantasising... how about a Mughal India-centred Indian Ocean scenario, introducing Portugal, Dutch and Indonesia, as well as alternate leaders for India and maybe England? Could run from C15th to C18th. Be a bit different from America-focused colonization sencarios...

Or you could go Siam, Indonesia as new civs, and new leader for India

The rythm of 2 new civs and one new leader for existing one, just feels so right.

 

[Cobalt_Blue]

Well I think the one thing we cal *all* agree on here, is that we would gladly pay $19.99 for the Tamar of Georgia DLC

 

[ehecatzin]

Well I think the one thing we cal *all* agree on here, is that we would gladly pay $19.99 for the Tamar of Georgia DLC

Shut up and take my money!

 

[GenyaArikado]

Well I think the one thing we cal *all* agree on here, is that we would gladly pay $19.99 for the Tamar of Georgia DLC

We need it