DLC and expansion speculation

Well, the Tamar joke was fine for a while, but the leader bingo is full now, and fortuntely she is not there.
If they add a civ from that region, it should definitely be Armenia.
On the other hand, it has become a sort of fan favourite, so they could squeeze it in there.

I know I'd buy it :)
 
I don't care where, when or how: I NEED Into the Renaissance 2.0, preferably after we have all civs in the 1st version of ITR + Poland, because there was too much land between Austria and Russia.
 
On the other hand, it has become a sort of fan favourite, so they could squeeze it in there.

I know I'd buy it :)

Sure, I have nothing against Georgia per se.
But if I have to choose between Armenia and Georgia (and I hightly doubt there is a possibility for 2 official civs from the Kaukazus region), it's Armenia without any questions.

I don't care where, when or how: I NEED Into the Renaissance 2.0, preferably after we have all civs in the 1st version of ITR + Poland, because there was too much land between Austria and Russia.

Indeed.
Leaving Hungary out from a European medieval-renaissance scenario was outrageous.
 
The only DLCs I really care about are those with Civs. So if Civ6 has no expansions and it's all DLCs, here's what I think about the possibility of these Civ5 civs returning as Civ6 DLCs:

Assyria-possibly, may not return this time, why not put Semiramis for the lols :p

Austria-likely will return, with Maria Theresa again

Babylon-definitely will return, would be a shocker if it didn't, I bet Hammurabi will be in instead of Nebby

Byzantine-definitely will return, with a female leader

Carthage-definitely will return, has been in the franchise since CivII

Celts-will return in some form, whether as the Gaels/Gauls, a single blob, or Ireland/Scotland/Wales

Denmark-probably will return, not with a Viking focus

Ethiopia-may return, will they go for someone else other than Haile?

Huns-Scythia has basically taken their place, so return seems unlikely

Inca-definitely will return, possibly with Wayna Capac

Indonesia-may not return this time, wasn't a popular civ to play in Civ6, but I will definitely miss them :(, maybe Philippines will get in over them

Iroquois-may return, or be replaced by another Native American civ

Korea-definite return, with Seondeok

Maya-definite return, with female leader, I hope :), Aztecs stole their ball court though :lol:

Mongolia-definite return, also would shock me if it didn't, I can't see them putting Kublai Khan over Genghis though

Morocco-may return, Islamic North Africa might return someday

Netherlands-definite return, expect Willem van Oranje again, or maybe Wilhelmina

Ottomans-definite return, possibly with Mehmed the Conqueror

Persia-definite return, would rather have a Sassanid leader this time, Shah Abbas is also cool

Polynesia-not sure if they will return, maybe the Maori will be in the game as a spiritual successor?

Portugal-definite return, hopefully not with Maria the Mad

Shoshone-probably will not return this time

Siam-may not return this time, to be replaced by Khmers, Vietnam, or Myanmar (all three are worthy of being in Civ in my humble opinion :D)

Songhai-might be replaced by Mali this time, Saharan Africa is worthy of representation in Civ, even if they have Kongo

Sweden-likely will return, without Gustavus, is having three Scandinavians in the game overkill? :p

Venice-not sure about them returning

Zulu-they did returned for Civ5, so I don't think Firaxis will abandon them just yet
 
My boring prediction is that there will be DLC and then expansions pretty much like Civ V. I think that the Aztec pre-order bonus will be the model of civ DLC - basically, a civ with a leader and a wonder.

My slightly less boring prediction is that one of the Greek leaders will also be pre-order bonus or maybe just flat out free Day 1 DLC. So, basically, everyone that buys Civ VI will be accustomed to having both civ DLC and leader-only DLC. Maybe leader DLC will come with a scenario or something.
 
I'm actually happy that Persia is not in the base game as I'm tired of the standard treatment they get every time. I would like to see the Achaemenids with different units and qualities or a move to the Sassanids or Safavids as Guandao has mentioned.

They also need to get rid of that Aramaic-speaking Arab voice actor they use for Darius in Civ V. It's really insulting and historically inaccurate. "Imperial Aramaic" was nothing more than a liturgical language for the Achaemenids. Darius would not have known how to speak/converse in this language, let alone with a thick Arab accent!

Firaxis seems unaware that Persia is a living civilization with a language that is still spoken in a modern form. I wrote them an email at the time of Civ 5's release explaining why their portrayal of Persia and Darius was so flawed. If they are not going to do it right, it's better they just leave it out entirely. Therefore, I applaud the omission and I'm not offended in the slightest. The game looks fantastic in terms of the art style and new mechanics and I will definitely preorder.
 
My slightly less boring prediction is that one of the Greek leaders will also be pre-order bonus or maybe just flat out free Day 1 DLC. So, basically, everyone that buys Civ VI will be accustomed to having both civ DLC and leader-only DLC. Maybe leader DLC will come with a scenario or something.
I actually wouldn't mind leader-only DLC (with or without scenario) at all. As long as the abilities give enough flavour and variation of playstyle.

Although I'd rather have something like the Civ 5 scenario DLC with additional leaders.
So a scenario, one or two civs and one or two leaders for existing civs.

For me they could churn those out forever :)
 
I imagine three types of new contents : stand alone DLC's, expansion and "Tri-pack civs" :

Tri-pack civ :
Islamic intervention : Morocco, Yemen (with queen Arwa) and Mali
Flow of the Mekong : Vietnam, Khmer and Thailand
American ancestors : Maya, Navajos and Hawaii
African arms : Ashanti, Swahili and Madagascar
Power of modernity : Italy, Argentina, Australia
Eastern kingdoms : Hungary, Serbia and Georgia

Stand alone DLC's :
Persia
Mongols
Ottomans
Babylon

Expansions (divide in 2 groups of 10 civs) :
Portugal, Austria, Netherlands, Armenia, Denmark, Korea, Burma, Indonesia, Mughals, Iran, Israel, Ethiopia, Zulu, Carthago, Hittites, Assyria, Mexico, Inca, Canada, Sioux

There, we'd have a total of 60 civs ! Now, imagine if each of them had 2 leaders !
 
2 New leaders are given for free!
There is absolutely no possibilty that this will ever be realistic.

Which is a shame, since if say, we got leaders like Ashoka or Hatshepsut for free, I might reconsider buying the game.
 
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I imagine three types of new contents : stand alone DLC's, expansion and "Tri-pack civs" :

Tri-pack civ :
Islamic intervention : Morocco, Yemen (with queen Arwa) and Mali
Flow of the Mekong : Vietnam, Khmer and Thailand
American ancestors : Maya, Navajos and Hawaii
African arms : Ashanti, Swahili and Madagascar
Power of modernity : Italy, Argentina, Australia
Eastern kingdoms : Hungary, Serbia and Georgia

Stand alone DLC's :
Persia
Mongols
Ottomans
Babylon

Expansions (divide in 2 groups of 10 civs) :
Portugal, Austria, Netherlands, Armenia, Denmark, Korea, Burma, Indonesia, Mughals, Iran, Israel, Ethiopia, Zulu, Carthago, Hittites, Assyria, Mexico, Inca, Canada, Sioux

There, we'd have a total of 60 civs ! Now, imagine if each of them had 2 leaders !

Well, That's interesting.
Just a minor correction if I may:
I would add Eastern kingdoms, as three catholic kingdoms of the Eastern Europe: Hungary, Croatia and Lithuania
And unite orthodox states in Eastern Europe-Georgia, Serbia and Bulgaria, as "Byzantine legacy" Pack...
 
OK,

So mutliple leaders ( not for all civs) are confirmed.

Which clearly means that DlC and Expansion goes to introduce them, by following scenarios, map extansion, or mechanic.
first,
It doesn't mean that each civ gonna be sold on his complete version, for sure. But in other side, this can not erase the fact that leader wanna updated for free! Firaxis would increase his attractivity in being more generous.

second,
this is also a good beginning to hope some new kind of development The CIV V routine ( DLC in order to wait for expansion, and expansions to hide boring mechanics before increase the game) won't be the strategy again.

And tri pack civ would be so great!
 
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