So, back kind of OT....
You know, I think that of all of the statistics, my next information is all we need to know about the state of this game in its current form. There has been an expansion announced, and we are in that period between the base game and the expansion. If you click to page two of the these general discussion threads, you find this date for the posting (as of the time of this post, CST):
December 18, 2017
That's TEN DAYS ago. That's for the bottom of page two in the general discussion. I remember in the Civ 3 and 4 and even 5 days how the first 3-4 PAGES of this forum would only be several days old (if that), especially when discussing new expansions and the current game at the same time. I mean, 3 days ago is still page one here, and before the expansion announcement that last thread on page one could run as many as six days old.
I am truly hoping that the expansion does well, but I am not playing it until it has been out at least a few months and know that some of my frustrations have been worked out. I have clocked many hours of Civ 3 in the past few months, along with 4 and 5. In fact, Civ 6 has been my 4th most played game in the past quarter.
I can't even compete on Monarch in Civ 3 with 12 civs on a large map half the time. But in Civ 6 I beat Deity without too much problem (as long as you survive the early rush). To me, that's a problem. I want a challenge. When Monarch in Civ 3 becomes too easy (it's been a while so I'm relearning lol) there is still Emperor, Immortal (EDIT: that was Demigod back then), Deity, and Sid. But in 6, I don't have anything other than manipulating game conditions.
I hope that changes.
I wrote the following in the Civ 3 thread, and I think I will repost it here because it does go to the root of complaints versus expectations:
So, I think all of you are onto something in this thread. I have played all civs a whole lot from 2-6 (especially 3-6) and I'm beginning to think that I'm just expecting too much out of 6. Movies had their heyday back in the 40's and 50's (heck maybe even the 30's). Popular music had its heyday in the 60's and 70's. Civ had it's heyday in Civ III and Civ IV.
It's not that new movies or music or Civ games are bad. It's just not in the same societal context as today. And with Civ, when Civ III came out, this game was simply the bomb in relation to the computer environment and other games out. To me, there was no comparison. So, even if they make 6 better in the end, it's won't be better than III or IV if for no other reason than from the standpoint that the context is different.
Time to start up another Monarch game on a large map with 12 civs and try not to get crushed again.... I forgot that the AI doesn't mess around back in the III days! I need to remember how to maximize that cow and floodplains wheat again....
So, yes the complaints are warranted, and yes, we expect too much, all at the same time....
We could
