Do you support the Iraq war TODAY??? NOTE: READ ARGUMENT FIRST! THEN vote

Do you support the Iraq war today?

  • Yes

    Votes: 46 30.9%
  • No

    Votes: 103 69.1%

  • Total voters
    149
I know almost everyone here is to FAR left, so this is kind of pointless, I guess, but do you think that the continued occupation of Iraq is justified?

I say yes. We got in there, and it is our duty to finish what we started. We should stay there and reduce the terrorist thread as much as possible. When the government WE put there is stable, we should leave.

PLEASE READ:But in the mean time, if we leave, another dictatoship will take power (openly terrorist supporting) and we will have another war that will cause the 3000 dead in Iraq to be wasted lives, and will cause another 3000 dead in the next war, not counting those dead in terrorist attacks founded by the new regime.

So what do you think on my arguments?
Wow your'e little three line argument one me over.:lol: :lol:
 
I do not support the war. IMO the US had no reason to invade Iraq. Why would a new dictatorship support terrorist attacks on their own people?
 
I never supported the war in Iraq, I don't support it now. Iraqis should be left alone. Maybe an international force lead by the UN could finish the job. i don't know, this war was a mistake from the very beginning.

EDIT: @Emperor: Just because some ppl with common sense don't support this war, that doesn't mean we are commies.
 
@Emperor: Just because some ppl with common sense don't support this war, that doesn't mean we are commies.
Well, he did made an extraordinary claim that 90% of CFCers are Political Lefites. (Though there are Moderate CFCers who do exist here)
 
moderate is far left compared to emperor.

your arguement relies on faulty logic through and through. pulling out doesnt mean people died in vain, it means people died trying. oh well. and the idea there is going to be another war is also wrong. There wont be if we dont let another one happen.
 
Yes, the end (world peace and defeat of terrorists) justify the means in this case.

I think the deaths of American troops and Iraqi civilians that have occured so far are all perfectly acceptable loses.
 
meh, i dont think the ends justify the means if the ends are easily accomplished another way.
 
Yes, the end (world peace and defeat of terrorists) justify the means in this case.

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Somehow, I don't think the end of Iraq brings those 2 things.

I think the deaths of American troops and Iraqi civilians that have occured so far are all perfectly acceptable loses.

You call yourself a Christian, then these people's deaths are "acceptable losses." That's sickening beyond belief.
 
You have 27% of the people voting, still supporting this insane, stoopid failed tragedy, which was started based on lies, and you think this place if far left?

I don't wanna ever be near the world you live in, and that's not an insult.
 
That bolded part is the same "logic" that communists and terrorists use to justify their actions.

No, its logic used by any military commander since the beginning of warfare. If you think you've suffered too many casualties, you retreat or surrender. This user feels we, though from what basis we don't know, haven't suffered enough casualties in order to merit a retreat or surrender.
 
Does anybody remember the British ricin attacks before the outbreak of the war? It was done by a group known as Ansar Al Islam, the right hand of Al Queda. Ansar Al Islam had Iraq as it's base, it was the right hand of Al Queda, and the ricin used in Britain came out of Ansar al Islam camps in and around Tikrit.

I have a question. Can anybody possibly discern for me, a difference between the Taliban in Afghanistan, and the government of Iraq pre-GWII? Iraq was a state sponsor of Palestinian terror in a big. He provided arms and finances for Palestinian terrorist groups, and personally gave roughly $50,000 to the families of suicide bombers. He housed and protected a number of wanted terrorists, include Masawi. Masawi even stayed in one of Saddams presidential palaces. Saddam had a...very...lasseiz fairre policy when it came to Kurdish terrorist groups and Ansar Al Islam.

Has anybody considered what WAS found in violation of the UN resolutions. Sure, we found no stockpiles. Shame on the US intelligence community, and Bush for selling that crap. But...what was found was that Saddam had the capacity, the infrastructure, the knowledge, and additional resources to have a chemical AND biological weapons program that he had pre GWI in just six months. He had everything he needed, and he would have done it if the embargo was dropped (France and Germany were pushing for this by the way.) What's scarier, is that Saddam had the delivery systems already done. Unmanned drones, Scud II missile systems...

Could he attack America directly? No. But he could attack Israel directly (which he was doing anyway). He could attack Kuwait directly.

What the Taliban ever do to America? Nothing. They just wouldn't cooperate with us. So they had to go so we could get after Al Queda. What did Saddam do to us? Nothing. But we had more than enough premise to go in, and take care of Saddam.

Anybody who thinks Saddam was not an indirect threat is drinking the kool-aid. Anybody who thinks terrorism wasn't fostered in Iraq is drinking the kool-aid too. Anybody that thinks the humanitarian situation in Iraq was any better than any other hellhole on earth, is drinking the kool-aid.
 
who keeps making this kool-aid?

the iraqis whom never attacked the united states? the iraqi that lived under the tyranny of a dictator. not anarchy?

kool-aid or not, your rhetoric isnt backed up by anything other than emotion and speculation.
 
Does anybody remember the British ricin attacks before the outbreak of the war? It was done by a group known as Ansar Al Islam, the right hand of Al Queda. Ansar Al Islam had Iraq as it's base, it was the right hand of Al Queda, and the ricin used in Britain came out of Ansar al Islam camps in and around Tikrit.


In regards to the ricin "attack":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_Green_ricin_plot


In regards to Ansar al Islam:

9/11 Commission Report states the following regarding Ansar al-Islam:
“ To protect his own ties with Iraq, [Sudan's Islamist leader] Turabi reportedly brokered an agreement that bin Ladin would stop supporting activities against Saddam. Bin Laden apparently honored this pledge, at least for a time, although he continued to aid a group of Islamist extremists operating in a part of Iraq (Kurdistan) outside of Baghdad's control. In the late 1990s, these extremist groups suffered major defeats by Kurdish forces. In 2001, with Bin Ladin's help they re-formed into an organization called Ansar al Islam. There are indications that by then the Iraqi regime tolerated and may even have helped Ansar al Islam against the common Kurdish enemy.[21]
 
I opposed the war from the beginning and continue to do so now. We need a rapid exit strategy and an apology for the way the war was conducted and aknowledgement of it illegality.

I know almost everyone here is to FAR left
Maybe you are so far right that everyone here is to your left;)
 
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