Don't mine me! - The hammerless challenge

[angeleyes]

...I was thinking to play with Elizabeth - Fin/Phi - making a lot of commerce and to krank out GP ....

Indeed she was a good one for this variant..

 

[karr1255]

But fin/phi would have maybe made this too easy. I like one of the new leaders more anyway. Lizzy is so mainstream.

 

[remconius]

Roster
1. Remconius Just played (925 BC - 700 BC)
2. karr1255<- Up next (2800BC - 1900BC)
3. Asperger<- On Deck (1900BC - 1300BC)
4. Chrono285 (1300 BC - 925 BC)

Should we take this game on with 4? Or should I post for 1-2 more players?

 

[remconius]

If we are successful at Monarch. We could up the level and play mainstream Lizzy.

 

[karr1255]

Got it and will play later.

 

[karr1255]

Well I can't open the game because you locked the map. So I really can't take part in this unless we reroll. I'm sorry but I'm probably not the only one who has modded graphics. Locking a SG maybe wasn't the best idea.

 

[remconius]

oh no, that's bad .......

I am pretty sure SGOTM is also locked....

Isnt it possible to play without modded graphics for this game?

Let me check the forum...

 

[karr1255]

Let the other players jump in first and raise their opinion but I just cannot undo the modded stuff. Otherwise rerolling wouldn't be so bad, you would just have to replay the opening turns. But I dont force you to do this, it's still mainly my screwup and I'm sorry.

 

[remconius]

Just didnt take it into account. If nothing is possible, I'll reroll.

 

[angeleyes]

..... it's still mainly my screwup and I'm sorry.

you're doing fine lately

 

[karr1255]

you're doing fine lately

I'm not the only one who can't play locked games.

 

[remconius]

Sent the question to the SGOTM coordinator AlanH and here is his answer:

The option to "Lock Modified Assets" is a Custom Game option during game startup. If you set this option then the game checks the contents of the Assets folder when it starts up and all players have to use *exactly* the same Civ4 assets as the game originator. Graphics and sound assets are exempt, I believe. SGTOMs and GOTMs are all set up this way, and I think most of those players are able to handle it. Your SG friends have probably modified the assets in their core Civ4 Assets folders instead of setting up mods in their Mods folders. This is always dangerous.

I suggest you create a new starting save, ensuring that "Lock Modified Assets" is not enabled.

That is what I thought. If you put mods in your custom assets folders instead of the core folder, you can always still use the standard files. Karr let me know if you can fix it so that your map mods are installed in the custom assets (under My games) folder instead of the core directory where the game is installed.

If not I'll re-roll.

 

[angeleyes]

I've only a little graphic mod and i can use the save.

 

[karr1255]

Alright I kind of fixed it. What caused the problem was the removal of clouds through Civscale. I can do without that no big deal. Should I play the turns now and continue as planned?

 

[angeleyes]

play, but don't drink to much

 

[karr1255]

Playing now. But 1 more question. The rules are changed so we can work the ivory now before we work all the floodplains right?

 

[angeleyes]

Variant rules
1. Commerce and Food always have priority
2. No mines, workshop, lumbermills or watermills
3. No production improvement buildings (except forge)
4. No production focused Civics

this suggest the opposite, but it would gameplay rather difficult...don't know

 

[karr1255]

Played a test game last night and I am going to ease up on the requirements a little by changing 2 rules.

Rule 1 is now commerce has priority over hammers, instead of only work tiles with 1 hammer. That means you can work plains forests if there are no more commerce tiles around.

Rule 2 Exception is now that resources can always be worked. AI does change your workers to those tiles anyway when city grows so it would be difficult to enforce. This will then be the only way to get some production going.


Also I would like to play this game in Warlords.

But later he posted this. Now I can't continue because I don't want to screw up a variant (again).

 

[angeleyes]

Rule 2 says you can always work resources, so it's yes, you can work the ivory

 

[remconius]

Very happy to hear yo can play. Tried a few re-rolls, but didnt like them. Guess I am already attached to this one.

Go ahead and play your turns. I think the left ivory has three commerce so it can be worked first. Technically we should focus on cottaging floodplains first. Growth and commerce should make the difference over production.