(E&E) Civilization VI - First Look: Argentina

[TyrannusRex]

Bartolomé Mitre leads Argentina in Sid Meier's Civilization VI!​

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Bartolomé Mitre Martínez was the first president of a unified Argentina, as well as a statesman, soldier, journalist, author, and poet. He is considered paradigmatic of a progressive yet flexible liberal politician and supported universal suffrage; during his term in office, he helped organize national public administration and promoted education, immigration, foreign investment, and railways.

A rough depiction of Mitre's in-game model, based on extant photographs of him, such as the one above. The hair is always the hardest part to get right in HeroForge.


Bartolomé Mitre's unique ability is called Partido Unitario. In addition to unlocking a new Wildcard policy slot whenever he upgrades to a new tier of government, cities that are above 75% Loyalty generate Diplomatic Favor equal to their Culture output. This output of Diplomatic Favor is temporarily doubled in the city with a Government Plaza or Diplomatic Quarter whenever a new building is completed in that District. This ability doesn't stack if both Districts are in the same city, so be sure to build them separately!

Bartolomé Mitre's agenda is Party Switcher, fitting for a man affiliated with no less than six political parties during his life! Mitre likes civs who adopt a new form of government, especially one from the next tier, whenever they can, and will likewise strive to be the first to adopt a new tier of government. He dislikes those who retain outdated forms of government.

But with Argentina's upgrade to playable civ, what will fill the gap left by Buenos Aires? Don't worry, civ fans, a post dedicated to city-states is coming soon!

Argentina's unique civ ability is called Esplendor Patagónico. All tiles in Argentinian cities adjacent to or occupied by a Holy Site, Theater Square, Preserve, or Milonga automatically raise their Appeal by +1, to a maximum boost of +2. Any of those (obviously unoccupied) tiles that get included in a National Park provide Tourism as if their Appeal were 2 higher. Building any District or completing any District project adjacent to an established National Park provides a boost of Tourism equal to that District's or project's Production cost.

Mockups of an in-game Gaucho model and icon.

Argentina's unique unit is the Gaucho. While weak in combat, this bola-wielding unit is quick and has a large line-of-sight, making it an ideal scout. It also has unlimited charges to construct Pastures, freeing up your Builders for other jobs. Whenever a Gaucho pillages an enemy Pasture, you gain Food and/or Horses equal to that tile's yield, in addition to the normal yields from pillaging.

Argentina's unique District is the Milonga, replacing the Entertainment Complex. It has lower upkeep than the District it replaces, and completing the Bread and Circuses project grants a boost of Culture equal to 50% of the city's total Production output. If two cities complete the Bread and Circuses project within 3 turns of each other, they both gain a temporary boost of +50% Tourism, increased to +100% with Cultural Heritage.

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Argentina is poised to be an industrial and cultural powerhouse in the mid to late game. Use your Gauchos to scout out the map for new civs, continents, and Natural Wonders, as well as raiding your enemies' livestock. With your bonuses to National Parks and the lively tango coming from your Milongas, your populous and prosperous cities will be the key to achieving a victory for the ages.
Will you forge a new path for your people among the pampas? How will you lead Argentina in Sid Meier's Civilization VI?

 

[Caesar of Bread]

Eva Perón leads Argentina in Sid Meier's Civilization VI!

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Special thanks to Leugi for inspiration on parts of this civ's design.


First Lady of Argentina, Eva "Evita" Perón gained fame as a political activist and philanthropist, championing labor rights and women's suffrage, as well as founding the nation's first large-scale female political party. Internationally, she became a cultural icon of Argentina, and still looms large in the consciousness of her nation.

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A rough depiction of Eva's in-game model, based on the above painting. The choker is moreso supposed to be her necklace. And the face isn't quite right. Use your imagination!


Eva Perón's unique ability is called Trabajadores y los Descamisados. Industrial Zones, Neighborhoods, and the Government Plaza grant 1 additional citizen to their city's Population when constructed. Every building in those Districts grants +1 Housing and +2 Gold, boosted to +2 and +4 with Sanitation. Additionally, all buildings in Argentina's unique District, the Milonga, grant +2 Gold per citizen, boosted to +4 with Economics.

Eva Perón's agenda is Justicialismo. She likes civilizations with high Production and happy citizens and will try to max out Production and happiness in her cities. She dislikes those civs lacking in these areas.

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Argentina's unique civ ability is called Esplendor Patagónico. All tiles in Argentinian cities adjacent to or occupied by a Holy Site, Theater Square, Preserve, or Milonga automatically raise their Appeal by +1, to a maximum boost of +2. Any of those (obviously unoccupied) tiles that get included in a National Park provide Tourism as if their Appeal were 2 higher. Building any District adjacent to an established National Park provides a boost of Tourism equal to that District's Production cost.

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Mockups of an in-game Gaucho model and icon.

Argentina's unique unit is the Gaucho. While weak in combat, this bola-wielding unit is quick and has a large line-of-sight, making it an ideal scout. It also has unlimited charges to construct Pastures, freeing up your Builders for other jobs. Whenever a Gaucho pillages an enemy Pasture, you gain Food and/or Horses equal to that tile's yield, in addition to the normal yields from pillaging.

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Argentina's unique District is the Milonga, replacing the Entertainment Complex. It has lower upkeep than the District it replaces, and completing the Bread and Circuses project grants a boost of Culture equal to 50% of the city's total Production output. If two cities complete the Bread and Circuses project within 3 turns of each other, they both gain a temporary boost of +50% Tourism, increased to +100% with Cultural Heritage.

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Argentina is poised to be an industrial and cultural powerhouse in the mid to late game. Use your Gauchos to scout out the map for new civs, continents, and Natural Wonders, as well as raiding your enemies' livestock. With your bonuses to National Parks and the lively tango coming from your Milongas, your populous and prosperous cities will be the key to achieving a victory for the ages.
Will you forge a new path for your people among the pampas? How will you lead Argentina in Sid Meier's Civilization VI?

No te lloras por mi, Argentina!

 

[Takhisis]

It's amazing how unhistorical the presentation of Eva Perón's character is, but since it's for a videogame…

 

[TyrannusRex]

It's amazing how unhistorical the presentation of Eva Perón's character is, but since it's for a videogame…

sigh...
I did mention in the Deep Dive that I'm still on a learning journey when it comes to Argentina, but go ahead, enlighten me.

 

[Patine]

Eva Perón leads Argentina in Sid Meier's Civilization VI!

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Special thanks to Leugi for inspiration on parts of this civ's design.


First Lady of Argentina, Eva "Evita" Perón gained fame as a political activist and philanthropist, championing labor rights and women's suffrage, as well as founding the nation's first large-scale female political party. Internationally, she became a cultural icon of Argentina, and still looms large in the consciousness of her nation.

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A rough depiction of Eva's in-game model, based on the above painting. The choker is moreso supposed to be her necklace. And the face isn't quite right. Use your imagination!


Eva Perón's unique ability is called Trabajadores y los Descamisados. Industrial Zones, Neighborhoods, and the Government Plaza grant 1 additional citizen to their city's Population when constructed. Every building in those Districts grants +1 Housing and +2 Gold, boosted to +2 and +4 with Sanitation. Additionally, all buildings in Argentina's unique District, the Milonga, grant +2 Gold per citizen, boosted to +4 with Economics.

Eva Perón's agenda is Justicialismo. She likes civilizations with high Production and happy citizens and will try to max out Production and happiness in her cities. She dislikes those civs lacking in these areas.

But with Argentina's upgrade to playable civ, what will fill the gap left by Buenos Aires? Don't worry, civ fans, a post dedicated to city-states is coming soon!

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Argentina's unique civ ability is called Esplendor Patagónico. All tiles in Argentinian cities adjacent to or occupied by a Holy Site, Theater Square, Preserve, or Milonga automatically raise their Appeal by +1, to a maximum boost of +2. Any of those (obviously unoccupied) tiles that get included in a National Park provide Tourism as if their Appeal were 2 higher. Building any District adjacent to an established National Park provides a boost of Tourism equal to that District's Production cost.

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Mockups of an in-game Gaucho model and icon.

Argentina's unique unit is the Gaucho. While weak in combat, this bola-wielding unit is quick and has a large line-of-sight, making it an ideal scout. It also has unlimited charges to construct Pastures, freeing up your Builders for other jobs. Whenever a Gaucho pillages an enemy Pasture, you gain Food and/or Horses equal to that tile's yield, in addition to the normal yields from pillaging.

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Argentina's unique District is the Milonga, replacing the Entertainment Complex. It has lower upkeep than the District it replaces, and completing the Bread and Circuses project grants a boost of Culture equal to 50% of the city's total Production output. If two cities complete the Bread and Circuses project within 3 turns of each other, they both gain a temporary boost of +50% Tourism, increased to +100% with Cultural Heritage.

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Argentina is poised to be an industrial and cultural powerhouse in the mid to late game. Use your Gauchos to scout out the map for new civs, continents, and Natural Wonders, as well as raiding your enemies' livestock. With your bonuses to National Parks and the lively tango coming from your Milongas, your populous and prosperous cities will be the key to achieving a victory for the ages.
Will you forge a new path for your people among the pampas? How will you lead Argentina in Sid Meier's Civilization VI?

There's an inexplicable hang-up with Eva Peron as the, "natural leader of Argentina," that I don't really see. Her husband, or Hipolito Yrigoyen, or Jose de San Martin all strike me as FAR more infuential on shaping Argentina as a nation.

 

[Lonecat Nekophrodite]

Is that Madonna model you're using?

 

[Henri Christophe]

Eva Perón leads Argentina in Sid Meier's Civilization VI!

I always tought should be better choice Isabelita Perón as leader since she was acttually a president of Argentina.
Eva Perón never took any power.
Other names to be Argentinian leaders could be Bartolomeu Mitré, who fought on Paraguayan war with Pedro II do Brazil and both could do a cool scenario about the Paraguayan War. "Guerra Guazu"

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Mockups of an in-game Gaucho model and icon.

Argentina's unique unit is the Gaucho. While weak in combat, this bola-wielding unit is quick and has a large line-of-sight, making it an ideal scout. It also has unlimited charges to construct Pastures, freeing up your Builders for other jobs. Whenever a Gaucho pillages an enemy Pasture, you gain Food and/or Horses equal to that tile's yield, in addition to the normal yields from pillaging.

I like the most the unity, it should be so strong as a Mongolian Keshik.

 

[Takhisis]

sigh...
I did mention in the Deep Dive that I'm still on a learning journey when it comes to Argentina, but go ahead, enlighten me.

Sure! I didn't answer before because I was temporarily deviceless.

In general, when embarking upon any work it's better to first learn about the subject and then to start your, uhm, portraiture. That saves you the hassle of having to rewrite half of it, as I've learned the hard way.

Well, anyway. Eva Perón and an overview of Peronism. First, she was never the ruler of Argentina. She was an actress picked up for her profession to play the rôle of her life in the political theatre that was Peronism. Peronism was an explicitly ‘verticalist’ ideology that was basically Mussolini's fascism with the specifically Roman heritage filed off.
The ‘movement's’ commitment to democracy was proven by its taking power through a military coup and then staging gerrymandered elections in which the left-of-centre opposition got too many seats anyway so opposition legislators were either barred from taking office or straight-up murdered for their efforts. Perón himself disapproved (in writing) of democracy, liberalism, and communism. For the first time since the 19th century religious instruction was re-imposed on (now mandatory) state education.
Of course, another thing Perón did was, for the first time in the country's history, the removal of presidential term limits. Perón also made it state policy to invest in financing coups and existing dictatorships abroad, such as Franco in Spain or Stroessner in Paraguay, as well as making Argentina a safe heaven for runaway Nazis, Fascists and Ustashe as an ‘ideological reserve corps’.
As a colourful note, his supinely ignorant approach to technology ended up in his proclaiming his intention to sell ‘bottled nuclear energy’ to foreigners. It was to be manufactured by runaway German scientists.

Perón's explicitly macho-monarcho-autocratic worldview needed a queen to go hand-in-hand with him as monarch.
Eva (Duarte de) Perón's legacy of feminism includes the famous quote that women are not meant to think for themselves but instead follow and encourage their men as she did her husband. And the men in turn the great ‘Conductor’ himself, the great leader. When some independent-minded sectors of ‘the movement’ (as it was called) tried to promote their own interests under the banner of a candidacy for Eva Perón quickly put his hand back in the sock puppet and made her mouth the words to her ‘renunciation’. Dissenting trade unionists were, of course, jailed or killed.
Also, women were allowed to vote in some elections in the 1920s… when a coup in which a younger Perón himself participated decided to do away with all this progressivism and institute what was then called ‘patriotic fraud’.
At the time, schoolteachers were predominantly women. Like all other state employees, they were all required to join the ‘Single Party of the Revolution’, as it was then called, and receive indoctrination training. Children's schoolbooks were transformed into ideological pamphlets which, under the guise of reading aids, taught children to go and worship the leader as was good and proper.
Sadly for her, Eva Duarte was caught by cancer. Perhaps she could have survived, had she been diagnosed in time and treated properly, but she personality cult around her both portrayed her as infallible and tried to pretend that her initial ‘tiredness’ was a result of her ‘overwork’. Also, the rampant nationalism attached to the personality cult meant that foreign physicians were brought in too late to do anything but tell her that her death was inevitable and imminent.
As an illustration of what she had become in the hands of her sexopath of a husband (see below), Eva was forced to carry on with her public appearances and held up by a bulk of wire to keep the illusion of health still alive. She eventually died amid this charade (again, see below).

Of course, the militarisation of society was as impolitic as its mishandlement of economics. Argentina under Perón sold its gold reserves to pay for its ridiculous spending, leading, after only a few years, to a whopping 52% inflation rate, which was ‘solved’ by massive US subsidies (more than compensated by Perón handing over oil wells to the Standard Oil) and by Perón using force to prevent any ‘unpatriotic conspirators’ from raising prices. We've never really fixed inflation since then, and Perón's current successors have overseen a rise of inflation to 110% or more for this year and of poverty from 5% at the time of his death to nearly 50% today.

Obviously, the economic catastrophe and brutal repression (Perón prided himself in having used machine-guns against unarmed workers) led to a chaos of rising political and social violence. Perón had done everything he could to annoy everyone: streets, stadia, hospitals, neighbourhoods, cities and even provinces had all been renamed after him and/or his wife. Football clubs had been messed and relegated or promoted according to their member-elected leaderships' loyalty to the new regime. The cartoonish neocolonial gaucho culture of the countryside was unsuccessfully imposed on the largely-immigrant urban population. Shantytowns began to proliferate. A culture of demerit was being promoted. Perón had lost his charismatic wife and, to make things worse, had soured up public opinion by his sexual excesses with underaged girls; he was ousted by his own army in 1955 and submitted his resignation not to the Supreme Court (which he himself had packed) or the Congress (same) but to the joint chiefs of the armed forces, stating that he had always been a military ruler.

Perón returned once again in 1973, a dying man, vowing once more to save Argentina from homosexuality and Marxism (sic). He brought himself a third wife (Eva had been his second) into whom his spiritist friends from the P2 lodge tried to infuse the spirit of the dead Eva -P2 was an offshoot of Freemasonry gone ridiculously wild.
In his last year before his death in July 1974, Perón organised and started the bloodbath perpetrated by personal militia of various ideological leanings and ‘fixed’ things by forcing a momentary freeze on all prices again, which led to the catastrophic ‘Rodrigazo’ in 1975. Perón also ‘solved’ things by having his new wife as his running-mate so that nobody would be there to topple him, which was as short-sighted as it was sterile.


I suppose I could write more and in more detail but I think that the above textwall is enough of an introduction. Feel free to ask away!

 

[Patine]

In light of @Takhisis's very imformative and candid post, I would SERIOUSLY like to clip my above list of proposed alternative leaders:

Hipolito Yrigoyen, or Jose de San Martin all strike me as FAR more infuential on shaping Argentina as a nation.

 

[Caesar of Bread]

I guess I, who is not an expert on Argentinian history, will take the shot at doing a Peron biography. Note, I am basically copying off of the Wikipedia page. Sorry, now don't kill me!

Maria Eva "Evita" Duarte de Peron, or simply Eva Peron, was the first lady of Argentina under the leadership of populist dictator Juan Domingo Peron. Eva Peron was shown to be a symbol of the Argentinian people, the spiritual leader of Argentina, when they were under Juan Peron.

Eva Peron was born in 1919, the youngest of five children in the village of Los Toldos. In 1934, a teenage Evita moved to Buenos Aires to pursue a job as an actress. Evita was cast as a model and a radio actress. In 1943, Eva co-founded the Argentine Radio Syndicate (ARA). But her role as an actress and model changed when she met Juan, the love of her life.

It was January 22, 1944. A week earlier, an earthquake occurred in San Juan, and Eva attended a gala at Luna Park Stadium alongside other celebrities to help people in need after the disaster. She had met Colonel Juan Peron (not yet a dictator) at the ball, and the two fell in love faster than you can say "Dios mios!" But in 1945, the opposition arrested a despotic Juan Peron after he had been taking steps to take over Argentina. Evita led a successful protest on the 17th of October to free Juan; the next day, the two wed. The next year, Juan Peron had become the caudillo.

In the year '47, Eva went on a tour of Europe, going to such places as Spain, Portugal, France, Switzerland, and Italy. Everywhere she went (except for Switzerland), she was well-liked, and leaders such as De Gaulle, Franco, Salazar, and Pope Pius XII were kind to Evita Peron. The next year, she founded the "Eva Peron Foundation", a charity fund led by Evita herself. Argentinian society was greatly improved by the Eva Peron Foundation (someone put some more text pls). Eva also led forward a new feminist movement in Argentina. After founding the Female Peronist Party, Eva had become vice president, and women joined Argentine politics for the first time!

Sadly, Evita had been diagnosed with cervical cancer and died on July 26, 1952. People from all over the world mourned her loss, and three million Argentinians attended her funeral. In 1978, the musical Evita was created in honor of her, and in 1996, a film adaptation of the said musical was created, starring Madonna as Evita Peron. But the truth is, she never left. No te lloras por mi, Argentina!

 

[Patine]

Sure! I didn't answer before because I was temporarily deviceless.

In general, when embarking upon any work it's better to first learn about the subject and then to start your, uhm, portraiture. That saves you the hassle of having to rewrite half of it, as I've learned the hard way.

Well, anyway. Eva Perón and an overview of Peronism. First, she was never the ruler of Argentina. She was an actress picked up for her profession to play the rôle of her life in the political theatre that was Peronism. Peronism was an explicitly ‘verticalist’ ideology that was basically Mussolini's fascism with the specifically Roman heritage filed off.
The ‘movement's’ commitment to democracy was proven by its taking power through a military coup and then staging gerrymandered elections in which the left-of-centre opposition got too many seats anyway so opposition legislators were either barred from taking office or straight-up murdered for their efforts. Perón himself disapproved (in writing) of democracy, liberalism, and communism. For the first time since the 19th century religious instruction was re-imposed on (now mandatory) state education.
Of course, another thing Perón did was, for the first time in the country's history, the removal of presidential term limits. Perón also made it state policy to invest in financing coups and existing dictatorships abroad, such as Franco in Spain or Stroessner in Paraguay, as well as making Argentina a safe heaven for runaway Nazis, Fascists and Ustashe as an ‘ideological reserve corps’.
As a colourful note, his supinely ignorant approach to technology ended up in his proclaiming his intention to sell ‘bottled nuclear energy’ to foreigners. IT was to eb manufactured by runaway German scientists.

Perón's explicitly macho-monarcho-autocratic worldview needed a queen to go hand-in-hand with him as monarch.
Eva (Duarte de) Perón's legacy of feminism includes the famous quote that women are not meant to think for themselves but instead follow and encourage their men as she did her husband. And the men in turn the great ‘Conductor’ himself, the great leader. When some independent-minded sectors of ‘the movement’ (as it was called) tried to promote their own interests under the banner of a candidacy for Eva Perón quickly put his hand back in the sock puppet and made her mouth the words to her ‘renunciation’. Dissenting trade unionists were, of course, jailed or killed.
Also, women were allowed to vote in some elections in the 1920s… when a coup in which a younger Perón himself participated decided to do away with all this progressivism and institute what was then called ‘patriotic fraud’.
At the time, schoolteachers were predominantly women. Like all other state employees, they were all required to join the ‘Single Party of the Revolution’, as it was then called, and receive indoctrination training. Children's schoolbooks were transformed into ideological pamphlets which, under the guise of reading aids, taught children to go and worship the leader as was good and proper.
Sadly for her, Eva Duarte was caught by cancer. Perhaps she could have survived, had she been diagnosed in time and treated properly, but she personality cult around her both portrayed her as infallible and tried to pretend that her initial ‘tiredness’ was a result of her ‘overwork’. Also, the rampant nationalism attached to the personality cult meant that foreign physicians were brought in too late to do anything but tell her that her death was inevitable and imminent.
As an illustration of what she had become in the hands of her sexopath of a husband (see below), Eva was forced to carry on with her public appearances and held up by a bulk of wire to keep the illusion of health still alive. She eventually died amid this charade (again, see below).

Of course, the militarisation of society was as impolitic as its mishandlement of economics. Argentina under Perón sold its gold reserves to pay for its ridiculous spending, leading, after only a few years, to a whopping 52% inflation rate, which was ‘solved’ by massive US subsidies (more than compensated by Perón handing over oil wells to the Standard Oil) and by Perón using force to prevent any ‘unpatriotic conspirators’ from raising prices. We've never really fixed inflation since then, and Perón's current successors have overseen a rise of inflation to 110% or more for this year and of pvoerty from 5% at the time of his death to nearly 50% today.

Obviously, the economic catastrophe and brutal repression (Perón prided himself in having used machine-guns against unarmed workers) led to a chaos of rising political and social violence. Perón had done everything he could to annoy everyone: streets, stadia, hospitals, neighbourhoods, cities and even provinces had all been renamed after him and/or his wife. Football clubs had been messed and relegated or promoted according to their member-elected leaderships' loyalty to the new regime. The cartoonish neocolonial gaucho culture of the countryside was unsuccessfully imposed on the largely-immigrant urban population. Shantytowns began to proliferate. A culture of demerit was being promoted. Perón had lost his charismatic wife and, to make things worse, had soured up public opinion by his sexual excesses with underaged girls; he was ousted by his own army in 1955 and submitted his resignation not to the Supreme Court (which he himself had packed) or the Congress (same) but to the joint chiefs of the armed forces, stating that he had always been a military ruler.

Perón returned once again in 1973, a dying man, vowing once more to save Argentina from homosexuality and Marxism (sic). He brought himself a third wife (Eva had been his second) into whom his spiritist friends from the P2 lodge tried to infuse the spirit of the dead Eva -P2 was an offshoot of Freemasonry gone ridiculously wild.
In his last year before his death in July 1974, Perón organised and started the bloodbath perpetrated by personal militia of various ideological leanings and ‘fixed’ things by forcing a momentary freeze on all prices again, which led to the catastrophic ‘Rodrigazo’ in 1975. Perón also ‘solved’ things by having his new wife as his running-mate so that nobody would be there to topple him, which was as short-sighted as it was sterile.


I suppose I could write more and in more detail but I think that the above textwall is enough of an introduction. Feel free to ask away!

One question that comes to mind. How close to this South American Mussolini complex are Kirchner, Nestor, and other more modern, "Peronista," Presidents. Have they mellowed, reformed, or diluted hard edges from the Old Man, or just created different takes on the same authoritarian theme (like Deng did from Mao, in China, for instance)?

 

[Henri Christophe]

How close to this South American Mussolini complex are Kirchner

I think the Kirchner don't have any relation with Mussolini.
The Kirchner are left wings, and the fascist are right wing. Just that is enough to we draw a clear difference between they.

 

[Patine]

I think the Kirchner don't have any relation with Mussolini.
The Kirchner are left wings, and the fascist are right wing. Just that is enough to we draw a clear difference between they.

"Mussolini complex," is name-checking for Peron, not LITERALLY Mussolini. Just to clarify.

 

[Henri Christophe]

"Mussolini complex," is name-checking for Peron, not LITERALLY Mussolini. Just to clarify.

I don't know about this complex, can you explain it more?

 

[Patine]

I don't know about this complex, can you explain it more?

Did you read @Takhisis's big post, above.

 

[Henri Christophe]

Peronism was an explicitly ‘verticalist’ ideology that was basically Mussolini's fascism with the specifically Roman heritage filed off.

Now I find on Takhisis text about Mussolini!
This kind of political position of Perón we called, on Brazil, as Populism. Was the same kind of governement of Getúlio Vargas's Estado Novo.
I can agree Perón could be interpreted as fascist by some angles, but the Kirchner is left wing and despite being also peronist, isn't fascist at all.

 

[Caesar of Bread]

Now I find on Takhisis text about Mussolini!
This kind of political position of Perón we called, on Brazil, as Populism. Was the same kind of governement of Getúlio Vargas's Estado Novo.
I can agree Perón could be interpreted as fascist by some angles, but the Kirchner is left wing and despite being also peronist, isn't fascist at all.

Peron and Vargas were fascist definently. Stalin and Mao could technically join their lot. I'd say Kirchner is a leftist, somewhat authoritarian.

 

[Patine]

This kind of political position of Perón we called, on Brazil, as Populism. Was the same kind of governement of Getúlio Vargas's Estado Novo.

By definition, Populism is NOT an ideology, or grouping of ideologies, or even endemic to one wing of the Political Spectrum or another. It is a form and style of presenting, adovcating, campaignng, and pushing a political agenda or platform.

 

[TyrannusRex]

As if other leaders in Civ didn't have controversial sides but are still revered in their home countries. Genghis Khan comes to mind. Heck, George Washington from V comes to mind.
I do understand a lot of the criticism behind the Peronist regime (I did do some research before I wrote this, folks), but from what I could tell her perception in Argentina is still largely positive.
Any look at a historical figure is going to be colored somewhat by our modern perceptions and also by the nature of the interpretation/adaptation/whatever you're dealing with. In this case, I wanted to have a leader that people could look at and immediately go "Oh yeah! Argentina!" Much like how Gandhi, despite not being an actual governmental leader, gets the "Oh yeah! India!" feeling going. I know Civ fans are usually more interested in history than the general public, but I really didn't want to go for another revolutionary leader that would basically be a reskinned Bolivar and I figured that Eva, in addition to being a well-known figure, could be at least somewhat distanced from her husband who actually held power and had too much of an interest in fascism.(Oh that's right, fascism is a government option in Civ VI and you domination-victory folks probably choose it without a second thought. Video games do require a bit of suspended disbelief (not quite the right term, but you get what I mean.)
I suppose I could go swap in a new leader for Argentina if the complaints demand is strong enough, since the leaders are less work than the whole civilization (it won't be immediate, however.) I'm curious to hear what Leugi thinks of this, since I was partially inspired by their Argentina mod which includes Eva.

EDIT: Just a fun little reminder: traditionally, all Civ leaders have been deceased. It doesn't have to be a long time necessarily - Wilhelmina died in 1962 - but I won't be including anyone who's still alive as a leader or Great Person.

 

[Takhisis]

Alright, one post first for the issue of leaders:
If you want suggestions, I suppose that one of the Mitre-Sarmiento-Roca triad should be the ‘classical’ leader.
Unlike the Perón matrimony, under whose rule the Argentine economy and productivity worsened, the three were the founders of a period of prosperity.
Mitre was the first president of a unified Argentina after a four decades of intermitent civil war. He started the modernisation process, both social and technological, and finally slavery was abolished outright.
Sarmiento was the ‘great educator’ who initiated a revolution: free, state-provided education for everyone regardless of class, income or birth took the literacy rate from about 30% of the population to over 75% within a couple of decades. Argentina thus became the ‘country of the middle classes’, unlike every other country in the continent bar the U.S. and Canada.
Roca continued the modernisation process, put down one of the last major rebellions by the governors and also defeated the invading Mapuche confederacy who had massacred the native Patagonian indians and started an all-out war with yearly raids against the fledgling Argentinian state with the backing of Chile.