Earth18Civ OCC Conquest...?
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BornInCantaloup, I've looked at your 2200BC save.
Now I understand
So, you've started on stone. This gave you additional hammer from start and stone and marble 6 moves earlier ( because you don't need carrier). That's why you can finish SH extremely early ( just 4 moves after the Masonry and then you have time to finish Pyramids before writing.
Of course getting Judaism and Oracle so late - it was a pure luck, this will not happen without several attempts on reloads.
So... why I didn't even consider this tile from the start? Two reasons.
1. This 3 mountains looks scary. Of course this doesn't affect early game, first 100-120 moves, but for other 180 moves it is a kind of loss. May be I was overestimating this...
2. You don't have access to the ocean. This does mean, for example, if Monty will go for the victory - you won't we able to do literally nothing with this. No nuclear rockets, no destroying his spaceship city etc.
May be again I was overestimating how important to have access to the sea.
So, i wish you good luck with this attempt, and please update us, it is really interesting what will happen next
Now I understand
So, you've started on stone. This gave you additional hammer from start and stone and marble 6 moves earlier ( because you don't need carrier). That's why you can finish SH extremely early ( just 4 moves after the Masonry and then you have time to finish Pyramids before writing.Of course getting Judaism and Oracle so late - it was a pure luck, this will not happen without several attempts on reloads.
So... why I didn't even consider this tile from the start? Two reasons.
1. This 3 mountains looks scary. Of course this doesn't affect early game, first 100-120 moves, but for other 180 moves it is a kind of loss. May be I was overestimating this...
2. You don't have access to the ocean. This does mean, for example, if Monty will go for the victory - you won't we able to do literally nothing with this. No nuclear rockets, no destroying his spaceship city etc.
May be again I was overestimating how important to have access to the sea.
So, i wish you good luck with this attempt, and please update us, it is really interesting what will happen next
My first run with Louis, I went out with cannons and made one vassal then, then tried to serve cities on a silver platter. But my vassal would not oblige... >_<
Had much more success with just razing everything.
You do realize that my run was about as far from a honest clean play as you could possibly get though...? First a carefully doctored start, and then some reloads along the way too!
I like the point about leaving small AIs alone... sort of. I farmed a ton of XP from Isabella (Prets and woody3 axe got 2xp at 99% odds or so attacking the city).
Also tried to make good use of imp+TGW which are added multiplacative. If you attack a chariot with your axe getting 3xp, you get 3*2*2=12 xp toward a GGeneral.
But Bella has to go before her Buddist holy city steals too many unmarked cities though. And Freddy was already dead due to the early worker stealing. And louis... well, getting Paris out of the way is necessery to make a vassal of him, and it's also probably the only path forward to gain access to those tiles and the resources around there.
Had much more success with just razing everything.
You do realize that my run was about as far from a honest clean play as you could possibly get though...? First a carefully doctored start, and then some reloads along the way too!
I like the point about leaving small AIs alone... sort of. I farmed a ton of XP from Isabella (Prets and woody3 axe got 2xp at 99% odds or so attacking the city).
Also tried to make good use of imp+TGW which are added multiplacative. If you attack a chariot with your axe getting 3xp, you get 3*2*2=12 xp toward a GGeneral.
But Bella has to go before her Buddist holy city steals too many unmarked cities though. And Freddy was already dead due to the early worker stealing. And louis... well, getting Paris out of the way is necessery to make a vassal of him, and it's also probably the only path forward to gain access to those tiles and the resources around there.
Yes, but you need to see the goal, isn't it? How you'll get visibility? I mean, one turn for Sputnics, but before and after?
Are you going to win this?
You are a hero!If you get a vassal, and that vassal has cities on the other continent, you can airlift some observer units in, one per turn, with an airport.
No, I'm not going to win thisIt was, in fact, in that position, that I threw the towel.
Interesting thing about Sputnik. I was indeed counting on that or map trades to get vision but didn't exactly consider the fact that knowledge would only last for a turn. Maybe sea access is more essential than I believed (I wasn't too sure to begin with but the inland city is also that much stronger).
Yes, Krik, I do fully realize that. I don't think it removes much from the feat
Still it was a good run - to get all this wonders...
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