Earth18Civ OCC Conquest...?

[Fippy]

Possible, if i'd think longer about this topic i will need a Slayer CD.

 

[krikav]

Close... but no cigarr!

Spoiler Had a good run. :

Got Louis/Hatty capitulated quite early, then made a run against Cathy. Then we had a african campaign against Hatty.
Cyrus got really big, and eventually was even more powerful than Qin, so I had to prop up Qin to the best of my ability.
Once my two best buddies gobbled up Mansa they started to snowball away completely.

I shipped my troops to south america to help Saladin claim it from Monty, but then Asoka launched a spaceship from Australia... Told my folks to go kill his capital but they couldn't make it in time.
I was very close to winning culture too... Had to revolt back into state property to negate sushi (sushi was totally not worth it btw).

I think that maybe national park was a mistake, wallstreet would have served me much better.

 

[civac]

Sucks.

You can win a culture victory in OCC?

 

[valergrad]

"Then Asoka launched a spaceship from Australia... " - unexpectedly clever from AI!

Sorry for may be the stupid question, what is the idea of having forts for every single tile in Europe?

 

[Heathcliff]

good try, could you have done spacerace victory?

 

[krikav]

good try, could you have done spacerace victory?

Yeah, I think that would have been a cakewalk. I built internet and did 0% research for quite some time to give my buddies an economic boost.

 

[krikav]

Sorry for may be the stupid question, what is the idea of having forts for every single tile in Europe?

Not a stupid question at all.
The resaon is that forts provide at least some benefit, something that normal improvements doesn't.
Forts _does_ connect the resource they are built on.
It can help with boat movement and could theoretically help in case of an invasion.
All tiles that had forts also had improvements 1 turns from completion, so in case some nasty person would have come around with fighters and smashed the forts (disconnecting resources) a single worker could have gotten the improvement up and running again instantly.


*Edit*
Hills without resources have mines instead of forts, on the off chance that I might pop a metal on that tile.
*/Edit*

 

[krikav]

Sucks.

You can win a culture victory in OCC?

I think so, when you reach legendary you win...? Thats what I assumed at least!

 

[Donald Duck1]

I think so, when you reach legendary you win...? Thats what I assumed at least!

I think you need a Permanent Alliance with an AI that delivers the other 2 legendary cities.

 

[CarpoolKaraoke]

Close... but no cigarr!

Spoiler Had a good run. :

Got Louis/Hatty capitulated quite early, then made a run against Cathy. Then we had a african campaign against Hatty.
Cyrus got really big, and eventually was even more powerful than Qin, so I had to prop up Qin to the best of my ability.
Once my two best buddies gobbled up Mansa they started to snowball away completely.

I shipped my troops to south america to help Saladin claim it from Monty, but then Asoka launched a spaceship from Australia... Told my folks to go kill his capital but they couldn't make it in time.
I was very close to winning culture too... Had to revolt back into state property to negate sushi (sushi was totally not worth it btw).

I think that maybe national park was a mistake, wallstreet would have served me much better.
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Spoiler :

Your vassals didn't revolt against you? Interesting!

 

[CarpoolKaraoke]

Spoiler Marathon speed, 1850 BC :

Still working on this but hmmm:

5 down, 12 to go.

 

[NothingBesideRemains]

I think you need a Permanent Alliance with an AI that delivers the other 2 legendary cities.

Yeah, OCC culture win is not normally possible without PA's.

Also - instead of forts every tile, in a OCC when your workers are doing nothing, you can cottage spam to create a 'minefield' that AI invaders will spend time to pillage as they advance on your capital.

Interesting to see how close this got (tweaked start notwithstanding). I guess the benefit of this approach vs a random map continent style OCC conquest, is that your vassals really can get big because of the density of opponents.

Good stuff!

 

[valergrad]

I think so, when you reach legendary you win...? Thats what I assumed at least!

No, not really ( i've checked this).
You still need 3 cities.
Otherwise of course it would be easiest way to win!

BTW: how I checked this. I tried to do "ALL IN ONE CITY" challenge. Playing with OCC found all 7 religions, build all wonders ( even all 7 religion shrines ), all projects and 2 corporations.
Apparently this is totally doable on settler - can't say about higher difficulty. And culture in this city was of course just crazy. But still no cultural victory.

 

[lymond]

Yep, OCC culture can only be done with Permanent Alliances. I've done it before

 

[NothingBesideRemains]

I wonder if it would be possible to try to snag a corp or two to drop into your vassals to spread? If you pushed all available resources into one of your vassals' faces, then you could get a lot of cash yourself (Democracy-buying units?) and also some mega-production from your vassal.

Hard to transition from military to science in time to (a) found the corps and (b) get good value from them, probably.

 

[krikav]

Democracy rushbuying is of no use. You can 1-turn pretty much everything you want.
And I didn't even built ironworks.
Heroic was only of use for a brief period of time too.

The cash was veeeeery good when it came to upgrading units though. Since I took great care to not lose a ton of units I had alot to upgrade.

 

[krikav]

I did found sushi, and I did build 3 CEOs and spread them to capitals of my vassals, but they didn't seem to continue the spread at all. :/

 

[Fippy]

Super Paris and then Cuirs / Cavs stomping on all those funny AIs would be what i'd try too.
However minus stuff like market that i see in your pic BIC, i'd pre-build HAs or Jumbos instead.
Want a large army when reaching MT already.

 

[Fippy]

Well i think Cuirs could already start taking care of bigger AIs in Europe.
Ofc we should skip attacking all small & harmless AIs, they can provide gold or just be around doing nothing.
Game is won when all bigger AIs are taken out, rest would be cleaning up.

Units that cannot be upgraded yet (not enuf gold) are actually useful too for plundering, or taking easy fights.

 

[valergrad]

Well, that was fun. 1 AD :

Spoiler :

Valergrad was right and Judaism is not an easy grab. I had to try 4-5 times to get it again.
I have been most unlucky with Saladdin founding Hindu, rather than Montezuma. He has been playing the zealot better than my shrine and has forced me to bulb Theology to secure a Jewish AP. It would be really bad if the AP had gone Hindu.
Oh, yes, I also sort of "had it all" in the holy quadrifecta : Stonehenge, Pyramids, Temple of Artemis, Oracle, in that order - which is exactly what I want in OCC. That ought to make up for my poor luck. I also popped a damn Great Artist, grrrr.

The Great Library was completed in 1000 BC. Currently running Representation, Buraucracy, Pacifism. I should probably switch into Caste System, like 6 turns ago.
Fought a Russian DoW around 700 BC, which was fine, since there weren't any catapults.

Looks like fantastic start. It would be very interesting to look how you've achieved this