EC1 - Persain Warlord - New thread

[Earl Of Chester]

Apologise for not removing the apologise comment.

Anyway its all over so quickly I've done Space race a few times but never done either Domonation or Conquest (I've only just started playing Persians, French previous) but if some of you have never seen the nice Space Race movie then we can go for that.

Anyway Axid, your up

 

[Axid]

i just got it and will try to post sometime today. looks like a easy victory for us.

 

[Axid]

Preturn- got a trade embargo against Cleo with Aztecs, since she doesn’t like us. Also got MPP with Aztecs and Cleo.

1460AD- Niniveh builds work, start university. Jinjan completes marketplace, start bank. Palace expands. Buy courthouse in Nottingham, Canterbury, Istakahr and York.

1465AD- York starts a factory. Nottingham starts library. Isatkhr starts (I thought I wrote it down but I was wrong).

1470AD- Dover builds courthouse, start bank.

1475AD- Dariush Kabir builds market, starts courthouse. We have coal near Dariush Kabir, will be connecting and mining cause more production and cash. Dakyanus builds a library, starts courthouse.

1480AD- Berlin Builds Smith, starts factory. Tarsus builds factory, starts coliseum.

1485AD- Leipzig builds factory, starts colisseum. Eregli builds cathedral, starts bank. Heidleburg builds library, starts courthouse.

1490AD- Discover Atomic Theory, start navigation. Antioch builds factory, starts university.

1495AD- Susa builds factory, starts bank.

1500AD- Tyre builds Factory, starts courthouse.

1505AD- Babylon builds factory, starts coal plant. Pasargadae builds factory starts Theory of Evolution. Hastings builds factory, starts courthouse. Arbela builds factory, starts military academy. Pollution at Antioch. Bactra completes aquaduct, starts library. Sidon builds courthouse, starts bank. Samaria builds factory , starts courthouse.

1510AD- Discover navagation, start Replacable Parts. Leipzig builds colisseum, starts coal plant. Pollution at Susa. Tarsus builds coliseum, starts coal plant. Zohak builds market, starts factory.

The reason I started and built so many courthouses was that we were losing a ton of money and production to corruption were whoever was before me started factories. I don’t have a prob with factories, but building them in a city that is losing more than 70% of it’s production I just can’t do. That is why I did that. Also we now have a very deep treasury indeed. It is around 6,500$. It is quite nice. If you want to know why I got navigation it is because of magellan, if we are going to go to war again then it could prove useful. If we don’t then I wasted 4 turns of science on 30% money to science. So therefore we made a TON of $$$ off of this. Criticize me if you want. I think however we are in a nice position to go to war if we want to. And with the MPP’s we will drag the other 2 into war with Russia, which is who I decided to kill, which will cause every civ over ther problems, while we stay just peachy on our island and try to either get a diplo victory or space victory. That’s just what I was thinking when I did this.

That’s all I have to say for now.

And here’s what you all have been waiting for. THE GAME

 

[shdwlord]

got it

 

[shdwlord]

Inherited: Purchase Chivalry for 50 gold from the Aztecs. cancel our present trade deals with them, get 8 gpt for spices, and incense/furs for wine/dyes/ivory/gems/100 gold. Yeah, thats fair. Wow, Russia wont take 5 luxuries for their silk. Trade them spices for 2 gpt, all they can afford. We can't even trade with Egypt.

Ummm, why are we building coal plants? Well, I guess its time to sell all these barracks we have in our cities.

1) 1515 MMOW Operation borderlock begun.

2) 1520 MMOW

3) 1525 workers clean up a square of pollution.
Aztecs demand territory map, music theory, and 100 gold

4) 1530 Replacable parts learned, Electronics ordered. Berlin finishes factory, begins ToE. Tureng Tepe founded. Merv founded. 47 riflemen upgraded. 4 cannons upgraded.

5) 1535 Universal Sufferage completed. Operation Beachhead put into effect.

6) 1540 MMOW

7) 1545 Behistun founded.

8) 1550

9) 1555 Electronics learned, Sanitation ordered to deal with the over irrigation problem. Kandahar founded.

10) 1560 Stage 1 of Operation Beachhead successful as Omaha beach is founded. With our surplus of gold, a library is immediately rushed. MPP and trade embargo cancelled.

11) 1565 Omaha beach rushes a university.

12) 1570 Magellan's Voyage complete. Omaha Beach rushes walls. Altin Tepe founded. Bunyan founded completing operation Borderlock.
The russiand declare war on us, attacking Omaha Beach. Our infantry easily defeats the longbowman, and becomes elite.

13) 1575 Sanitaion research complete, The Corporation ordered. Omaha Beach completes its walls, rushes a barracks. Elite infantry defeats bowman.
Russian cossacks held off, 1 wounded, 1 killed.

14) 1580 Barracks completed, infantry rushed at Omaha Beach.
Russian cossack killed attacking Omaha Beach. Omaha Beach is living up to its name, as the Aztecs break trade deals with us to attack with a jag warrior. Their swordsmen destroy improvements, but cannot drive us off the coast either.

15) 1585 The Military Academy is completed. Omaha Beach rushes another infantry.
2 cossacks driven off, 2 bowman killed in first wave against Omaha Beach. Second wave kills off 6 Aztec swordsman and gets an infantry promoted to elite. Russia pillaged our roads to egyptian harbors.

16 1590 Harbor rushed in Omaha Beach. 4 cavalry arriving on a galleon kill 3 russian longbowmen and an aztec swordsman.
Russian cossack and longbowmen killed in an attack on Omaha Beach. 2 Aztec swordsman killed, promoting another infantry to elite.

17) 1595 The Corporation learned, Steel ordered. Omaha Beach completes its harbor, rushes another infantry. Charsadda founded.
1 russian cossack forced to retreat. 1 Aztec swordsman killed, 1 cavalry killed, 1 cavalry forced to retreat.
The Egyptians start Shakespeare's Theater.

18) 1600 Omaha Beach rushes another infantry. Ura Tyube founded. We lose an elite cavalry attacking Aztec cavalry, kill 3 swordsmen with the rest of our cavalry.
Russia loses another cossack in a failed assault. Aztecs loose 2 swordsmen.

19) 1605 Omaha Beach rushes a temple. We kill an aztec cavalry, but loose another cavalry.
Omaha Beach holds under massive russian/aztec assault. another infantry promoted.

20) 1610 Omaha Beach rushes another infantry. Aztec forces feel the wrath of our cavalry.

We get steel next turn, ToE for 2 more advances in 2 turns. Hoover Dam is 12 turns away. We have alot of railroads now, too bad they are on the wrong continent Since Earl of Chester has never had a conquest victory, I set all the pieces in place for one. Omaha Beach will be a wonderful staging ground once we get air ports, tanks and cavalry tear through the enemy lands. All we have to do is make sure it doesn't flip culturally, that is why I rushed everything before waiting for a turn between rushings, and keep it well garrisoned. Right now, the Russians and the Aztecs are throwing alot of units at it, but we haven't lost 1 infantry yet. If Avaris flips, don't take it. Cossacks can reach it before our infantry, and the russians will get a huge chunk of our treasury. Once we get airports, and can get a better force over there, anything goes

 

[Earl Of Chester]

VVV good turn Shdwlord . I was thinking the same thing about the Coal Plants (Previosly Cola Plants, running on the soft drink I hate. )
Unless you vitally need the shield boost then its not worth the polloution, the up keep cost and the production. It isn't that long before you get Electronices and have a chance of getting Hoover. And even if you do build them, only in one or 2 cities.

I would have tended to wait till we would be able to get airports straight away but with our economy we can rush all we want and it won't take long to reaserch our way to Flight. Then

And is this 3v1? Thought it was just Russians and Aztecs, but then you said "attacked Persian Calavalry" (EDIT: Just realised we're Persians Guess you meant Aztecs who are also green) . Sounds like we've got a lil bit of a fight on our hands

Mummyman gets the next round of Carnage :die!:

Leave some for me!

 

[Earl Of Chester]

Heres a zoomed out Pic of the Ocean just to give you a idea of how far we're having to ship everything and where the beach head is. At the moment we seem to be doing it with one ship. I think a few more will be needed.
Omaha Beach is v secure, I'm glad to say. They should get Tanks till we have Mech Inf and even Cossacks v Infantry is a one way battle.
Our continent sure has changed a lot since I last saw it.
Oh and we're at war with Russia and Aztecs, not Cleo, although she ain't best pleased with us either. may be an idea to give her the odd tribute, but if she does declare on us what the hell! Make thing intresting

 

[shdwlord]

Wasn't really a choice whether to rush or not, if I wanted to found a city on the other continent before the culture borders closed. Those buildings and infantry needed to be rushed right away, as the city came under immediate attack. I wasnt expecting that, or I would have rushed the walls on the first turn, I was just expecting alot of culture pressure, hence the library/university. They provide more culture than temple/cathedral. As for the navy, well, I wasn't expecting to have to ferry troops accross, so I was using the 2 ships that we had, and had planned on waiting for airports. Once we went to war, it became an issue of time. would it be worth it to build ironclads for transport protection, galleons to ferry troops accross, compared to the time of researching airports. With ToE coming online soon, I decided to just wait for the airports.

 

[Earl Of Chester]

Mummyman hasn't picked up so is skipped and I;m taking my turns now.

 

[Earl Of Chester]

Forums back up

I've ahd coursework to do so only played 5 turns. May be we should consider lowering the limit to 10 or 15?

Inherited turn - Mircomangement to cut a turn off Hoover, 4 turns each of 2 Hospitals
Rush 2 Librarys for around 200.

1615 AD (1): 1 Cossack wounded, 1 killed + and dead Longbow (Lbow). Add 5 Aztec Swordsman corpses and a Cavalry of the same nationalities.
Steel researched, Refinary started.
Lots of Infurstructure completed.
Kill Russian Spearmen and Lbow as training exercise for Cav.

1620 AD (2): 1 Cossack wounded and a Spearemen destroys some improvements. Several Aztecs atatcks with 2 Cav wounded and more Swordsman bitting the dust
ToE is finishes in Berlin and gives us Refining and Combustion and we start Flight.
We have 2 Oil on our trade lin already and have 2 unconnected supplys where Germany tired to restart.
2 More Librays Rushed.
Several Russian and Aztec units killed as reinforcements arrive but one Cav is lost to a Aztec Swordsman.
People want Battlefield Medicine and as a People Minded Kinda Leader its started in Babylon

1625 AD (3) Lots of WLKE days ending
3 Russian Cossacks wounded and run and a Lbow killed.
Palace Expansion
Start Expansion of Workforce in Heavily irrigated towns.
Rush 2 Harbours and a Library.
Finish of 2 of the Cossacks, kill a Russian Spearmen and a Aztec Elite Cav.

1630 AD (4) Another Cossack killed and a few Aztec Cav wounded.
WLTE days eding still. 5 cities go into Disorder and need 2 entertainers. 4 are old English Cities which have few hapiness improvments
Kill 3 Aztec Cav and a Swordsman.

1635 AD (5) Aztec Cav killed. We lose a Infantry but then attack and kill another Cav.
For the first time in God knows how long, there are no enemy units in Omaha Beaches Cultural Infulence.
Heck of a lot of infurstructure completed
Cleos a lil bit peeved and we have enough enemies for now so I give her 20 turns of are most plentiful luxury for free which makes her Polite.
Flight one turn away, so we run a +691 deficit instead of breaking even.

I expanded the workforce a bit and dia fair bit of land improvemnt but little else. I was suprised we got the techs we wanted from ToE whne Communisum and Espionage haven't been reaserched

Rush an Aiport in Omaha next turn and get as many as you can on the mainland asap.
Obviously tanks are our next goal and we get some naval power along the way . However, War Wariness is already in a problem in a few of the cities which lack infurstructure. I would may be suggest at soem point reaserching Communisum (Not for Govermant!) for Police Stations.

Anyway Lkendter doesn't really need advic off me

 

[MummyMan]

Sorry I didn't pick up. My internet connection was down for 3 days. I guess i'll play whenever, there isn't much action anyway (or maybe there is, i haven't read any of the descriptions yet)

 

[Earl Of Chester]

Welcome Back

The next person is going to start the action really off as they get airports going and possibly roll off the first tanks.
Its up to Lkendter wether you go now or play at end of the turn... going 2 turns out of 4 seems a bit much.

Question: Since the patch can you airlift armies? I tried before it and you couldn't

 

[LKendter]

I have got the game, and I am currently playing.


General Lee

 

[LKendter]

Well, when my turn started we owned Omaha beach...

 

[LKendter]

Preturn -
I review our borders - excellent. I rush just 1 temple.
As expect we get flight, begin research toward tanks (mass production).

The rushed ships appear. Begin building some airports in Persia.

1645 AD - Phony war, mmow, kill 1 russian.
:flamedevi I sign peace treaty with the aztecs that includes a war versus Russia. It only cost $150.
Let them wear each other out. With very little ships or aiports, it will be a while before we can wage war over there.
1650 AD - The people love me - We the love Emperor all over the place.
1660 AD - [dance] Hoover Dam completes - Time for kick butt factories.
1665 AD - I hate autoraze, Kharkov is gone.
I declare war on Egypt, Mendes is captured.
Research begins on tanks.
1670 AD - [dance] We get a great leader, for killing swordsman. He is hiding in Omaha beach to build a tank army.
1675 AD - I really hate autoraze, El-ash... is destoryed. Need 2 settlers.
It's time, rush the airport at Omaha-beach.
1680 AD - New Persepolis is formed. Athribis is formed. Harbor rushed in Mendes.
Airlift to Omaha begins.
1695 AD - We are going for communism, to get police stations.
Our pathetic elite calvary dies trying to kill a knight
Egypt declares war on the Aztecs????
Battlefield medicine completed.
1705 AD - Avaris is captured. The best defender was a knight.
Can Egypt really be that weak?
New Pasagade is formed. The island is finished.
I get 20 turns of luxury overload - I give the Atztecs all 5 luxuries and Medicine for there 2.
OK, price is absurd, but it should keep us in Democracy.
Peace with Russia - nah, they don't offer enough to break our alliance with the Aztecs.
1710 AD - Oh, Mr. AI, I have bad news. Tanks are landing.
The transport stack of doom is landing. :flamedevi:
1715 AD - Our elite immortal captures Pithom - A coal source.
Reduce science to 20% for another cash rush. Order Espionage, though I doubt we will need it.
The people want to build the Pentagon It is ordered in Berlin, due in 7 turns.
1720 AD - Our new battleship gets some target pratice, and kills that annoying barb galley I am sick of seeing.
Hieraconpolis falls - best defender was a spearman.
1725 AD - Immortals fighting knights - Yes, like I said, Egypt is hopeless.
Egypt does kill some immortals
1730 AD - Our tank army captures Odessa.
Pi-ramesses falls to calvary.
1735 AD - Vladivostok falls.
Next to research - Radio.
1740 AD - Yakust falls.
1745 AD - Our immortal army attacks Helipolis, as do several other units - I run out of attackers.
Kiev falls.


Summary -
1 - I captured the small island near Ergili, and the other stray Egypt island.
2 - We have decent airlift capacity.
3 - Tanks / infantry airlifting every turn.
4 - I have multiple settlers in Avaris, that can fill in the gaps.


edit: Old attachment deleted.

 

[MummyMan]

Good job lkendter! I like your kill everybody attitude, because we can definitely handle it by the sounds of your description

 

[Earl Of Chester]

Yes. Good move in getting the Aztecs on our side and switching to Eygpt instead. That island which covered the waters was a bit of pain as we needed constant ROPs. And the Eygptions had no luxerys we wanted unlike the Aztecs.

Anyway Axid is up next

 

[LKendter]

That was an easily plan.

Domination was decided on, and by attacking Egypt I could secure that island before our tanks came on line.
All it took was a rushed transport and escort.
By the time the 4 transports could land on the New world, tanks we starting.

In the meantime, a lot more squares were culture locked - that is was wins the domination game. Same reason I have already rushed temples in the new world.

Plus I saw how pathetic the defend near Omaha beach was.


We can very easiliy handle Russia and Egypt. I am attacking on 2 different fronts. The biggest delay is lack of railroads. I have 2 DEFENDED teams working on that.

 

[Axid]

i got the game use guys and will try to get it posted by tomorrow, it's just a tad to much for me right this sec. i will however have it posted tomorrow, no doubt.

 

[Axid]

There was infrstructure every turn so I’m not going to put it in every turn.

1750AD- take Moscow. Take Helioplis, we now control the Great Wall (lot of good that does).

1752AD- pentagon built in Berlin, start Shakespeare, get in 7 turns. We now have all luxeries without the aztecs. We also now have a airport in yakustk.

1754AD- take Thebes.

1756AD- capture El-Amarna. Capture Sevestapol. Take Tblisi.

1758AD- take Memphis.

1760AD- Discover Radio, start Ecology (have modern armor in mind). Get rocketry as free teck. We now have plenty of aluminum. Take Smolensk, Russia is now dead, gone and no more. Give Montezuma silks so that he will remain happy with us, he didn’t appreciate us killing Russia, he got only 2 cities out of the deal. Get peace with Cleo for what meant to be less than a turn, it didn’t work. The reason I did this was to get 2 cities without a fight, but montezuma is now very PO’d with us. I go to talk to him and he almost immediately declares war on us, so I decided it was better to have Cleo with us then worry about having two fronts on completely different sides of the continent. We then take St. Petersburg from montezuma.

1762AD- take Novgrod, and then Kahun.

1766AD- take Svordlovsk.

1770AD- take Tlalmanalco, then Chalco.

I had no intentions of switching the war to the aztecs but I figured if we could get a few cities for free then it might be worth it, also if we want a domination victory the aztecs need to be subdued a considerable amount. So that is the situation right now. Oh Montezuma stands no chance cause we get an army of tanks every turn, and I kept it up. We now have close to a hundred tanks, but they aren’t quite into position to take cities as of yet. Oh I accidently built a cruise missile with realizing, It is down near where the last german city was, I was going to blow it up somewhere were there were no improvements on the ground or anything.